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    Thumbs up MIPS Lined Helmets? No More. Welcome SPIN.

    Away with the complicated, heavy, wind noise inducing, funk traping MIPS liners and in with some fancy new padding instead. Yippee!!



    https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/08/17...e-new-helmets/





    In case you didnít know, the folks at POC actually helped develop the MIPS system. While some companies are still getting on board with that idea, POC has already moved on to a whole new concept. Their unique SPIN technology will be featured in the new Tectal Race, Octal X and Coron Air MTB helmets.

    At a glance the SPIN helmets look like basic cycling lids. The surprising thing is that the benefits of the SPIN technology are all produced by the padding. Injected with silicone, the pads resist rotational forces by offering a specific degree of shear so your head will tilt or turn within the helmet during an impact.


    POC says SPIN equipped helmets have tested better than their equivalent MIPS versions, and they resist three different types of impacts. They must be pretty confident in the idea, as POC has decided not to produce MIPS helmets any longerÖ
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    I wish they would list a release date on thee helmets equipped with SPIN. I am in the market for a new one, and was looking at a few with MIPS. But it would be nice to get in on better, safer technology.
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    I don't get why helmet makers bother to continue using just pads. CASCO has a hammock system that is far more comfortable that permits the same thing.

    Actually I do...margins.
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    Very interesting.

    How do they prevent the helmet from tilting up in the headwind?

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    Only on XC, Enduro and DH helmets so far. But nice, though.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMsRepBike View Post


    Too much information.
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    That's all there is for info.

    New road helmet from POC. Sort of aero, the new aero one?

    Here's the back of it:



    And another shot of the inside:

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    I like the look of it. If it fits like an Octal I'm interested.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Any word on a new POC aero helmet for the road with SPIN??

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_doctor View Post
    Any word on a new POC aero helmet for the road with SPIN??
    Nothing yet. They're keeping tight lips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_doctor View Post
    Any word on a new POC aero helmet for the road with SPIN??
    This could hold things up.

    Singletrack Magazine | MIPS Initiates Legal Action Against POC
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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post

    OOOOhhh... Yeah that explains it right there.
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    Received a POC Ventral (CE M) for testing, and had a first outing in it today. It's a mighty fine helmet indeed, very airy, and those SPIN pads are a so much more elegant solution than any MIPS liner.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Looks like the only possible drawback to Spin besides cost is convenience. It's really easy to remove/clean/replace big helmet pads. With Spin, it looks like there are more individual pads and even the big pads are mostly just individual bumpers sewn together with fabric.

    It does look better than MIPS and I've seen another brand do something similar with its helmets.

    Leatt has something roughly similar called "Turbine" or "Turbine 360"

    https://www.bikeradar.com/news/artic...ro-lids-49800/

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    IMO MIPS data is is somewhat flawed and or misinterpreted. Also, helmets IMO are way overrated to the DEGREE they protect the brain in a crash or accident. The helmet does a much better job of protecting the skull and the tissue on the outside of the head than the brain inside the skull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalGuy View Post
    IMO MIPS data is is somewhat flawed and or misinterpreted. Also, helmets IMO are way overrated to the DEGREE they protect the brain in a crash or accident. The helmet does a much better job of protecting the skull and the tissue on the outside of the head than the brain inside the skull.

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    true

    but then helmets in general are overrated for providing protection from injury in general, as we can tell by the injury stats of nations like Netherlands where injuries are lowest correlated to use of helmets also being lowest.

    It's why I really don't give a damn about MIPS or spin or spending more than a hundred bucks (or often more like $50 on sale) on a hunk of insulation foam that mostly just makes cycling terribly uncomfortable. No helmet maker has overcome that shortcoming. and yes I still wear a helmet and have tried many many types, begrudgingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceugene View Post
    Looks like the only possible drawback to Spin besides cost is convenience. It's really easy to remove/clean/replace big helmet pads. With Spin, it looks like there are more individual pads and even the big pads are mostly just individual bumpers sewn together with fabric.
    I cannot really see the inconvenience. The production Ventral has three separate pads.

    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Does anyone know if the temple arms from Oakleys and other non-POC eyewear still come into contact with the rear of the helmet? That was one problem I encountered when trying on the POC Octal with my Oakley EV Pitch glasses.

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    MIPS Lined Helmets? No More. Welcome SPIN.

    I would be happy if it didnít make me look like



    Of course it would help if I stopped wearing the diaper and the vest...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Broomwagon View Post
    Does anyone know if the temple arms from Oakleys and other non-POC eyewear still come into contact with the rear of the helmet? That was one problem I encountered when trying on the POC Octal with my Oakley EV Pitch glasses.
    The arms on my Assos Zeghos sneak nicely in between my skull and the Ventral. Haven't tried Oakleys on the Ventral, but Jawbreakers worked fine with the Octal for me. YMMV. Best to try.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    I would be happy if it didnít make me look like



    Of course it would help if I stopped wearing the diaper and the vest...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug B View Post
    Apparently it also makes your nose and eyebrows fall off too. ;-)
    Oh, I did that myself. Anything to get an aero advantage in a sprint finish, right?


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    They could develop SNIP, which conveniently trims your hair while riding.

    You'd turn out like this fine fella:
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