I have to admit, I was really pulling for Dave Z to ride home with the red lantern. Looking at the standings after today's stage, I don;t see his name. Did he miss the cutoff? I know it was a fast stage, but he should have been able to keep up.

PS - Is there somewhere on LeTour.com or Velonews to find out things like this, relatively soon after a stage? (not that I've done a lot of searching)

Yes , he missed the cutoff. His tour is done.

What in the world is going on with that guy? Time cut on a flat stage. Seems to be an impossibility for an "elite time trialist"

Gotta imagine he was sick or something.

39 ZABRISKIE David (USA) TEAM CSC hors délais

What in the world is going on with that guy? Time cut on a flat stage. Seems to be an impossibility for an "elite time trialist"

Gotta imagine he was sick or something.

Knee problem.

Well i guess Wim Vancevenant lost another challenger for the lost place in the race.
But what a shame for Dave and his team.

Maybe this should go in turbo turtle's 'how pro are these guys?' thread...but what the hell is Zabriskie doing changing to a new shoe a month before the tour?

Messed up his position and his knees and now he's out of the biggest race of the year...

Maybe this should go in turbo turtle's 'how pro are these guys?' thread...but what the hell is Zabriskie doing changing to a new shoe a month before the tour?

Messed up his position and his knees and now he's out of the biggest race of the year...

My assumption was that he just changed to a new set of the same shoes. And that the old ones were somehow broken so he couldn't go back. I've had it happen (not with cycling shoes) that a new pair of shoes is so different from an ostensibly identical older pair that they're not comfortable anymore. Maybe that's what happened.

As you say, surely no pro is dumb enough to actually change models/brands at this point in the season.

And I'd say that the Giro was really his biggest race of the year, and he rode an excellent race, in my opinion. He came to the Tour strictly as a domestique--he wasn't even supposed to be working hard in the TTs, from what I've heard.

It's a crying shame that he's out, though.

Dave Z is what i call

ZASA

http://us.wasa.com/wasa/IMAGES/NEW_US_IMAGES/PRODUCTS/BIG/LIGHT_RYE.JPG

I will miss his interviews on Velonews TV.

According to Velonews

http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12836.0.html

The change in shoes was dictated by the team

"attributing it to a team-mandated decision to switch shoes during the Giro d'Italia in May"

Now he can go home and practice his cute little smirk in his mirror.

Buh bye, you smug jerk.

At least the guy has a sense of humor and keeps it lite.
I'm sure you'd rather listen to Hincapie spout the usual boring predictable crap.

If you really think DZ is "smug" the jokes on you and well over your head.

Now he can go home and practice his cute little smirk in his mirror.

Buh bye, you smug jerk.

Cheap shot!!! That guy is anything but smug.

fc

DZ came off pretty badly during the brief versus interview. not that i don't believe him. with screws in your knee, new shoes and resulting discomfort that almost certainly blossomed into excruciating pain although i have to compare to Vino who isn't having an easy time of it either.
apparently in order to obtain a good articulate interview from an american you have to visit Fred or Chris at predictor-lotto.
as representatives of a sport that is having some difficulty recently i would have thought that a day with PR people on how to talk to the press would have been time well spent

According to Velonews

http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12836.0.html

The change in shoes was dictated by the team

"attributing it to a team-mandated decision to switch shoes during the Giro d'Italia in May"

This came up in the video interview that's on Velonews. He had himself a nice pair of custome shoes that he got in Oregon, then the sponsor forced him into something else. Smooth move! Now he's out. How's that working for the sponsor?!:rolleyes:

He should have done what they do in skiing when they have to ski a certain brand of ski or boot, but like something else better: Paint it to look like the sponsor's model.

Dave Z is out of the TDF per live coverage at cyclingnews.com.

Looks like his knee has been not so good.

Dang...and with the TT tomw. :(

He didn't abandon...he didn't make the time cut yesterday. He said he changed shoes before the tour and it's been bothering his knee which has screws in it.

it looks to me like that is not a great excuse when you look at Vino, he is got stitches and knees bleading and finishing with the pack.

DZ came off pretty badly during the brief versus interview. not that i don't believe him. with screws in your knee, new shoes and resulting discomfort that almost certainly blossomed into excruciating pain although i have to compare to Vino who isn't having an easy time of it either.
apparently in order to obtain a good articulate interview from an american you have to visit Fred or Chris at predictor-lotto.
as representatives of a sport that is having some difficulty recently i would have thought that a day with PR people on how to talk to the press would have been time well spent
Thats just it, he doesn't give scripted , bs cliche answers. Any sport needs more "humans" and a whole lot fewer sticks of wood giving the same old rehearsed answers.

Dave Z is what i call

ZASA

http://us.wasa.com/wasa/IMAGES/NEW_US_IMAGES/PRODUCTS/BIG/LIGHT_RYE.JPG

He could probably outride most of us pedaling with one leg.

Dave Z is out of the TDF per live coverage at cyclingnews.com.

Looks like his knee has been not so good.


I'm gonna hijack my own thread here:

WTF is up with renaming people's threads? Do the mods here just decide they could think of a title they like better, and their egos are so inflated that they decide it's okay to rename threads and put thumbs-down emoticons on the thread listing?:mad:

moerons. get a life, so that your ego isn't defined by your mod powers on RBR!

it looks to me like that is not a great excuse when you look at Vino, he is got stitches and knees bleading and finishing with the pack.

Not necessarily. I don't pretend to know the exact medical underpinning on DZ or Vino, but there is a difference betw pain due to non-permanent injuries and pain due to permanent structural injuries. Pain is pain. But if I'm hurting from something that won't do permanent damage, then I'm far more likely to tolerate it (EX: tyler's collarbone... it'll heal, no long term risk). If I'm hurting from ligament or cartiledge type injuries, I would call it off at the first sign of pain.

I'm gonna hijack my own thread here:

WTF is up with renaming people's threads? Do the mods here just decide they could think of a title they like better, and their egos are so inflated that they decide it's okay to rename threads and put thumbs-down emoticons on the thread listing?:mad:

moerons. get a life, so that your ego isn't defined by your mod powers on RBR!

Hey yo, There were two threads posted about the exact same topic on the same day. I think you posted the second one.

I'd ask that everyone please take a second to see if your thread already exists before posting a new one.

That being said, I merged the two threads into one and kept one of the thread titles. Thread merge is a little strange. It kept your thread name but took the thread title of the second thread.

francois

This came up in the video interview that's on Velonews. He had himself a nice pair of custome shoes that he got in Oregon, then the sponsor forced him into something else. Smooth move! Now he's out. How's that working for the sponsor?!:rolleyes:

He should have done what they do in skiing when they have to ski a certain brand of ski or boot, but like something else better: Paint it to look like the sponsor's model.

Yeah, no kidding. They do that in a lot of other sports. The top 3 rules in any long distance repetative sport is:

1: don't change anything on race day.
2: train like you race,
3: don't change anything on race day.

Granted, there's some obsticles.... kind of hard to do that if you race year 'round, gotta tow the company line with sponsored gear. Depressing to see him out for a "silly" reason.

Yeah, no kidding. They do that in a lot of other sports. The top 3 rules in any long distance repetative sport is:

1: don't change anything on race day.
2: train like you race,
3: don't change anything on race day.

Granted, there's some obsticles.... kind of hard to do that if you race year 'round, gotta tow the company line with sponsored gear. Depressing to see him out for a "silly" reason.

I actually think he had rocket 7's...