Jens Voigt put a minute into Levi on a mountain stage in the Tour of Germany. Or else JV is doping, which would absolutely break my heart. Hope Levi can find work for next season

Or he understands some basic principles of training and physiology which seem to escape you.

Or he uses stuff they can not find with the tests.

direct from Lance Armstrongs connections at Pfizer. They have a whole lab dedicated to making PEDs for him and his team that nobody knows about. They also can't advertise the quality and results cause it woud blow their cover so they are just eating millions of $s in research with no possible way to recoup the investment.

I love a good conspiracy

Jens Voigt put a minute into Levi on a mountain stage in the Tour of Germany. Or else JV is doping, which would absolutely break my heart. Hope Levi can find work for next season
The tendency for lack of rational thought in the Doping Forum is matched only by the Politics Only one.

I guess he "peaked" in the pyrenees and is on his way back done. I guess he only has a day when he is on top of his form and then he is either ascending or descending

Or he understands some basic principles of training and physiology which seem to escape you.

Huh??? Sans in french means WITHOUT.

I'd expect him to be able to hang with a non-climber such as Voigt, even if he had peaked already. Jens has easily 50lb on Levi. But if LL is juiced, then he should probably find some new stuff - this sh!t he's got isn't working.

I guess he "peaked" in the pyrenees and is on his way back done. I guess he only has a day when he is on top of his form and then he is either ascending or descending

He's got to be descending for the Tour Of Missouri.

Who's leading that one for Disco?

direct from Lance Armstrongs connections at Pfizer. They have a whole lab dedicated to making PEDs for him and his team that nobody knows about. They also can't advertise the quality and results cause it woud blow their cover so they are just eating millions of $s in research with no possible way to recoup the investment.

I love a good conspiracy


Not saying anything about Levi, but you've just described Patrick Arnold and Balco.

No so far fetched...

Huh??? Sans in french means WITHOUT.

Thank you for that. But perhaps the clear implication in the original post that his being sans [without] dope and behind Voight at the present time contrasts with earlier this year [Tour de France] when he was ahead of Voight and therefore on dope went over your head.

Thank you for that. But perhaps the clear implication in the original post that his being sans [without] dope and behind Voight at the present time contrasts with earlier this year [Tour de France] when he was ahead of Voight and therefore on dope went over your head.

:rolleyes: Voight is now on the dope. and Levi is off. that's the only conclusion I can draw from this.:rolleyes: