View Full Version : Pope Refused to Meet with Condi Rice in August


spyderman
09-19-2007, 01:31 PM
You know you've got problems if you can't even get the Pope to meet with you... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Pope Benedict XVI refused to meet US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in August, saying he was on holiday, an Italian newspaper reported Wednesday.

Rice "made it known to the Vatican that she absolutely had to meet the pope" to boost her diplomatic "credit" ahead of a trip to the Middle East, the Corriere della Sera daily reported without citing its sources.

She was hoping to meet the pontiff at his summer residence of Castel Gandolfo at the beginning of August, it said.

"'The pope is on holiday' was the official response," the paper said.

It said the reply "illustrated the divergence of view" between the Vatican and the White House about the "initiatives of the Bush administration in the Middle East."

The newspaper said the pope had rejected all meetings with political representatives during August.

The Vatican press office refused to confirm the report.

US Ambassador to the Vatican Francis Rooney said relations between Washington and the Holy See were close.

"Since the beginning of formal diplomatic relations in 1984, the US and the Holy See have enjoyed a high level of cooperation on a wide array of issues," he said in a statement.

"Our relationship remains strong today. Our working relationship is dynamic and productive at all levels."

Bash
09-19-2007, 01:58 PM
GET ANYTHING DONE! She SMIRKS, GIGGLES, FARTS, SHAKES HANDS, and DOES NOTHING!!! She is the worst Secretary of State EVER. She does not know how to make a DEAL. She makes Kissinger look good. WORTHLESS!

spyderman
09-19-2007, 02:26 PM
GET ANYTHING DONE! She SMIRKS, GIGGLES, FARTS, SHAKES HANDS, and DOES NOTHING!!! She is the worst Secretary of State EVER. She does not know how to make a DEAL. She makes Kissinger look good. WORTHLESS!

I didn't think she could out do herself as the worst National Security Advisor...but she's coming close.

Some people become academics cause they can't make it in the real world. Condi fits that model. (This is NOT directed at anyone here...)

il sogno
09-19-2007, 02:30 PM
She needs to forget about the pope and get busy making deals in Iraq so we can get out of there.

il sogno
09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
I didn't think she could out do herself as the worst National Security Advisor...but she's coming close.

Some people become academics cause they can't make it in the real world. Condi fits that model. (This is NOT directed at anyone here...)
Having 9-11 take place on my shift as NSA is not something I would want to put on my resume. :rolleyes:

atpjunkie
09-19-2007, 02:45 PM
of the organization that started the Crusades to give one some 'legitimacy' or 'diplomatic credit'

Hey I got this great shirt for her to wear. A White Tee Shirt with a Giant Red lower case t in the middle. the t stands for tasteful or terrific

MikeBiker
09-19-2007, 03:01 PM
She just wants to ride in the Popemobile.

KenB
09-19-2007, 03:12 PM
I can't get him to meet with me either. Somebody taze me, quick!

atpjunkie
09-19-2007, 03:43 PM
She just wants to ride in the Popemobile.

he's supposed to be the closest mortal to God

why does he need a bulletproof car?

why is HE afraid of dying?

spyderman
09-19-2007, 03:51 PM
I can't get him to meet with me either. Somebody taze me, quick!

Are you considered a head of state, or a representative of a head of state?

I wouldn't taze you cause you'd shoot me with your gun.

Bash
09-19-2007, 05:03 PM
he's supposed to be the closest mortal to God

why does he need a bulletproof car?

why is HE afraid of dying?

Because: God told him!

KenB
09-19-2007, 05:08 PM
Are you considered a head of state, or a representative of a head of state?

I wouldn't taze you cause you'd shoot me with your gun.


Why are they more important than me?


Why would I shoot you when I could just club you with it? :p

den bakker
09-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Are you considered a head of state, or a representative of a head of state?

I wouldn't taze you cause you'd shoot me with your gun.
apparently he did not have any meetings with political reps in august so why is it such a big deal that he is not meeting with the US rep in that month?

paper warrior
09-20-2007, 10:55 AM
of the organization that started the Crusades to give one some 'legitimacy' or 'diplomatic credit'

Hey I got this great shirt for her to wear. A White Tee Shirt with a Giant Red lower case t in the middle. the t stands for tasteful or terrific

How many divisions does the Pope have?

atpjunkie
09-20-2007, 11:02 AM
How many divisions does the Pope have?

and do you really think it is good PR to go visit the source of their old wounds before a visit?

spyderman
09-20-2007, 11:40 AM
apparently he did not have any meetings with political reps in august so why is it such a big deal that he is not meeting with the US rep in that month?

Hmm... But it was fundicon Condi Rice from America.

If his calendar was clear there shouldn't have a been a reason not to meet with her... unless he's mad at how Bush has created a humanitarian crisis in Iraq, 2+ million refugees, as high as 1.3 million dead...etc and still no end in sight?

I think I'd avoid that taint too...

den bakker
09-20-2007, 11:43 AM
Hmm... But it was fundicon Condi Rice from America.

If his calendar was clear there shouldn't have a been a reason not to meet with her... unless he's mad at how Bush has created a humanitarian crisis in Iraq, 2+ million refugees, as high as 1.3 million dead...etc and still no end in sight?

I think I'd avoid that taint too...
Whatever makes you happy :rolleyes:
Unless of course americans deserve special rules in the rest of the world, is that was you are suggesting?

paper warrior
09-20-2007, 11:47 AM
and do you really think it is good PR to go visit the source of their old wounds before a visit?

Just adding some perspective here.

atpjunkie
09-20-2007, 12:22 PM
Just adding some perspective here.

the Pope ordered not just divisions but entire armies to attack and loot their lands

and yes they are still pissed about it

so 'then' is just as relevant

which is why W using the term was one of 2 things
a) horribly ignorant and stupid
b) a direct slap in the face

since his father intentionally mispronounced saddam wrong during GW1 (the way he pronounced it was a slag) which shows they do this stuff to intimidate I'm gonna think the use of Crusade was B) slap in the face
or rubbing salt in old wounds

spyderman
09-20-2007, 03:54 PM
Whatever makes you happy :rolleyes:
Unless of course americans deserve special rules in the rest of the world, is that was you are suggesting?

Well, if the Pope wanted to meet with Condi, he woulda regardless of his schedule. So that tells me he didn't want to meet with her.