View Full Version : Jaksche Just Unlucky


Dwayne Barry
10-30-2007, 07:02 AM
Good stuff from Jaksche on cyclingnews.

The doping continued throughout his entire career. During this week's conference, UCI president Pat McQuaid said that he thought that there is no more organized doping in cycling, a statement Jaksche disagreed with. "Maybe I have just been unlucky, because I have been on six teams, and on all six there has been organized doping," he said.

Polti (1997-1998)
Team Telekom (1998-2000)
ONCE (2001-2003)
CSC (2004)
Liberty Seguros-Würth/Astana (2005-2006)
Tinkoff Credit Systems in 2007

I don't think anyone would find his statement terribly surprising other than it implicating Tinkoff as being a dirty team. It's interesting because Jaksche was riding quite well this year before he decided to quit and tell all.

This coming out of http://www.thepulse2007.org/ conference. McQuaid is a joke, still minimizing the problem and trying to discredit anyone who talks about it.

blackhat
10-30-2007, 07:22 AM
JJ's making himself some powerful enemies.

blackhat
10-30-2007, 11:21 AM
This coming out of http://www.thepulse2007.org/ conference.

lots going on there. some Aussie is proposing that athletes <a href="http://www.thepulse2007.org/?p=69">be required</a> to wear a GPS device to avoid further cowchicken scenarios. great interview with Pound too.

iliveonnitro
11-01-2007, 06:48 AM
A GPS device? Oh c'mon. How would you like big brother knowing where you are 24/7/365? That's just BS.

I'm against doping, but they do need to give riders some privacy.

blackhat
11-01-2007, 06:58 AM
A GPS device? Oh c'mon. How would you like big brother knowing where you are 24/7/365? That's just BS.

I'm against doping, but they do need to give riders some privacy.

big brother's already supposed to know where they're at 24/7/365, the vampires have to know where to go to collect the blood. the current method, which cow chicken exploited, relies on written itineraries submitted in advance as opposed to real time tracking. it does seem like an invasion but they're already giving up the right to privacy.

Dwayne Barry
11-01-2007, 07:50 AM
it does seem like an invasion but they're already giving up the right to privacy.

Exactly, this would just close the loop hole that athletes can basically disappear off the radar for long enough to dope and let it clear their system. It seems to me one of the major ways these guys game the system is by timing their doping to avoid detection at the likely times they are to be tested. Thus the importance of insider warnings from the dope testers themselves and being able to avoid/delay tests when the relatively rare OOC tests are sprung on them.

terzo rene
11-01-2007, 07:51 AM
An employer with a GPS isn't an Orwellian Big Brother. You can always not take the job, or take it only if you feel the compensation makes up for what you are giving up. You don't have that choice with government, which can also imprison, torture or kill you as well as take everything you own or earn. Hardly a subtle distinction between the 2 situations.

ChilliConCarnage
11-01-2007, 11:58 AM
...You can always not take the job, or take it only if you feel the compensation makes up for what you are giving up.

That doesn't necessarily seems like much of a choice. For a pro-level cyclist, what other viable employment opportunities are there for you? It's not as if there were multiple elite level organizations that you could race for. So, your options are to take the job and accept the consequences, or not take the job and not have the ability to race anymore.