Sorry if it isn't kosher for this thread to be in this forum.

But, does anybody know anything about the new bikes that are old school style? like the Gios compact pro:
http://www.excelsports.com/image/Gios%20Compact%20Pro%20Frame%20without%20Fork.jpg

Or the Torelli's:
http://www.torelli.com/torelli/images/countach-l.jpg

What other bikes are there that are like this?

cinelli still makes the supercorsa... there are plenty of others

Mondonico, 2 that come to mind. Mercian since i edited when English frames were mentioned.

DeRosa and Colnago also have a lugged frame/bike in their lineup.

and then numerous custom builders around the US. and then there are also several english brands still in production.

What do you mean by "old school style"?? Do you mean "Steel". Do you mean 1" top tubes?? Do you mean old fashioned tubesets like SLX or SP, or 531? Do you mean 5 pound frames?

I mean steel that would look wrong with a carbon fork. With a threaded headset, lugs are a plus, chrome is great. Also something that is still made and is designed for modern components.

I'm pretty sure that Mondonico and Torelli are the same company (same website anyways), I know about custom, and thank you I forgot about Mercian.

For pure value, cost+quality+ride I would go with the Gios Compact Pro. Their bikes ride incredibly well. And that one is a bargain at under a grand with a fork.

The tough part is finding a threaded steel fork these days. Even if you have to have one threaded I think it's worth the bother, as threadless really looks like crap on traditional frames (even if everything else is new school)

A Waterford can be made with either a 1" headtube for a steel fork (or carbon), or a 1 1/8 headtube for a carbon fork. Classic design with lugs, and a modern steel tubeset. Slightly oversized tubes to make a 3 1/2 pound steel frame...$1600 (fully custom)

The Gios is a really nice frame. I rode one for three years and only got rid of it because it was too small for me. If you get one, order the optional chrome steel fork. It's the best fork I've ever ridden on a bike, and it completes the classic look. Gios also have a very high quality of finish, both paint and chrome. After 3 years, 10,000 miles of riding, my frame had no paint chips or rust.

Keep in mind that Gios have very steep seat tube angles (74), so they will fit longer across the top than they might seem looking at the nominal top tube lengths. They also steer very quick, which takes a little getting used to. The adjustable/replaceable rear dropouts are a really nice feature, and I'm surprised more bike manufacturers do not use them. You can shorten or lengthen the chain stays by about 1 cm.

I mean steel that would look wrong with a carbon fork. With a threaded headset, lugs are a plus, chrome is great. Also something that is still made and is designed for modern components.


As I noted in BFF (W'ford vs co-motion), a Wound-Up fork wouldn't look out of place at all on a classic (or neoclassic) steel steed.