Anyone ever use different brands of tubular glue on the same rim/tire combination. i'm just wondering if it's ok. i'm usually a little tabboo on doing stuff like this but my lbs doesnt have any more conti glue, only hutchinson. any concerns.

I can't give you an expert opinion other than I don't think you will have a problem. Allegedly some brands of glues act as a solvent on other brands, from what I understand. I don't care much for anything Hutchinson, however. Is this LBS the only show in town?

Anyone ever use different brands of tubular glue on the same rim/tire combination. i'm just wondering if it's ok. i'm usually a little tabboo on doing stuff like this but my lbs doesnt have any more conti glue, only hutchinson. any concerns.

Conti uses some sort of funky glue on their base tape. I only use Conti glue on Conti tires. With Vittoria's, you can use just about anything.
Buy a box or can of Conti glue online.

I use conti and vittoria and have mixed them on various rim and tire combos with no indication of problems so far. That includes regluing patched tires with a different glue from what was originally used. This has been on road tires, not cross. Could be I'm an accident waiting to happen, but again, so far so good. It would be a bad idea to mix uncured brands (ie put wet Conti on a tire and glue to a wet Vittoria rim).

Have also tried Tubasti and Hutchinson glues, 3M fasttack, and something else that I can't remember. Not impressed. I particularly did not like Fast tack and never trusted the glue job. Maybe I'm just not accustomed to working with it. Same goes for the orginal Tufo tape (this was not your question though). Gluing tires with real, normal tubular glue just isn't that hard. The fasttack and tapes just reinvent the wheel IMHO. Gluing tires is a learning curve, just like anything else on a bike. Unfortunately most people never give it a chance beyond their first try.

Vittoria supposedly has the highest holding strength, but Conti is very close and easier to find in the U.S. So, I get whichever is available and/or cheaper at the time. If you're leery of mixing, it's probably best to stick with Conti for all your gluing needs. I think it's slightly easier to work with and has a more consistent texture between batches (could be I've been picking up old cans of Vittoria glue from overseas and not resealing them very well between use). Grumpy mentioned the Conti basetape issues. I've heard about that too and actually glued one Conti with Vittoria glue by accident. Didn't have problems, but wouldn't say that's compelling evidence to keep doing it. Base tape can come off quick once it gets started = very bad on the road.

So, I think you're safe mixing Conti and Vittoria glues with most tubulars, but if in doubt, stick with Conti. The Hutchinson stuff looks and smells like a significantly different formulation. I would be cautious about mixing different glues on something like a cyclocross tire where strong bonds are extremely important. Tell your LBS to order the good stuff and stop going with whatever flavor QBP offered that month.

Tell your LBS to order the good stuff and stop going with whatever flavor QBP offered that month.

Ha! Good idea...
yeah, i've never even thought of mixing different glue brands together on the same rim/tire combo before. i've benn using tubulars for almost 5 years now and i've never used anything but Conti. glue without ever having rolled a tire in many many crits and RR's. out of the 4 local shops, 2 stock hutchinson, 1 stocks vittoria, and the other stocks mastik. i just ordered 10 tubes so i wont have to be without conti for a while.

I think that Vittoria glue holds the best, but you're not supposed to use it on Conti tires. The Conti glue, however, is almost as good, and is OK on all tires.

As for Tubasti, it doesn't hold very well, but at least it will let you get a tire off the rim at cold temperatures. For that reason alone, I've used it on a wheelset for use in cold weather.

Fast Tack dries very quickly, and this is the ONLY reason anybody should use it. It doesn't hold the tire that well, and it also dries out in a few weeks, leaving your tire essentially unglued after a few months. Use Fast Tack ONLY if you absolutely, positively need to glue a tire and use it very soon afterwards. Then, when you're done, remove the tire, strip the cr@p off, and put a real glue on it.....

Fast Tack dries very quickly, and this is the ONLY reason anybody should use it. It doesn't hold the tire that well, and it also dries out in a few weeks, leaving your tire essentially unglued after a few months. Use Fast Tack ONLY if you absolutely, positively need to glue a tire and use it very soon afterwards. Then, when you're done, remove the tire, strip the cr@p off, and put a real glue on it.....

I've not personally used Fast Tack, but have ridden with those who made the mistake. IME, it was the opposite problem to what you describe. When these guys had flats, it was virtually impossible to remove the tire from the wheel. Typically, you had to scrape the chafing tape of the rim (it had already been pulled off the tire in an attempt to remove the tire). Every Fast Tack user I knew destroyed their tires trying to remove them. That said, Fast Tack was and is a bad idea for a tubular glue.

Interesting. I've been using FastTack for a few years without any issues at all: it doesn't dry out and lose adhesion, and it seems to adhere as well as Vittoria glue, or so it seems when removing tires.

Back in the day when I rode tubulars, I used the standard glues like Tubasti for my road bike and FastTack for the track bike. I can't speak to the current versions of FastTack (which supposedly changed formulas due to VOC issues) but the stuff I used was a b**ch to get the tire off. On 41 degree banking, that's a good thing.

That was also the reason for not using it on the road bike as you needed something that allowed you to remove the tire when you flatted in the middle of nowhere. Mileage obviously varies these days.

I've not personally used Fast Tack, but have ridden with those who made the mistake. IME, it was the opposite problem to what you describe. When these guys had flats, it was virtually impossible to remove the tire from the wheel. Typically, you had to scrape the chafing tape of the rim (it had already been pulled off the tire in an attempt to remove the tire). Every Fast Tack user I knew destroyed their tires trying to remove them. That said, Fast Tack was and is a bad idea for a tubular glue.

Perhaps the introduction of moisture is the culprit here. BTW, your experiences with FasTack sound remarkably similar to several people's experiences with Tufo tape....

Back in the day when I rode tubulars, I used the standard glues like Tubasti for my road bike and FastTack for the track bike. I can't speak to the current versions of FastTack (which supposedly changed formulas due to VOC issues) but the stuff I used was a b**ch to get the tire off. On 41 degree banking, that's a good thing.

That was also the reason for not using it on the road bike as you needed something that allowed you to remove the tire when you flatted in the middle of nowhere. Mileage obviously varies these days.

My experience with Fast Tack was also many years ago. It may behave quite differently today compared to 20 years ago.