Unbelievable

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtailwindsportscorp

Holy crap. And those are probably well used. Just wow.

Interesting, I didn't relize that Big George rode a 62cm.

I'd rather go to my LBS and get the similar stuff for cheaper. Those guys from Discovery Team must take people as ignorant idiots.

I'd rather go to my LBS and get the similar stuff for cheaper. Those guys from Discovery Team must take people as ignorant idiots.


It's not the guys from the Trek team selling those bikes but a Bike shop that apparently purchased all of the bikes and is trying to recoup their investment. Don't throw out words like "Ignorant" and "Idiots" unless you're able to keep up! :thumbsup:

I can't believe this guy comes into ebay as a total noob, and expect someone to pay over $10grand for a used bike that has a disclaimer that covers his ass in every way:

"Trek Bicycle Corporation, any and all component manufacturers and their staff DO NOT CERTIFY THAT THIS BIKE, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IS IN RIDING CONDITION AND ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED TO THE BIKE OR ANY INDIVIDUALS ATTEMPTING TO RIDE THE BIKE."

If the bike has structural damage, then you're SOL.. and basically paying $10 grand a name sticker.

It's not the guys from the Trek team selling those bikes but a Bike shop that apparently purchased all of the bikes and is trying to recoup their investment. Don't throw out words like "Ignorant" and "Idiots" unless you're able to keep up! :thumbsup:
Its not a shop. Tailwind is the owner of the Discovery Channel team.

in some circles 10K to ride George's bike would be considered quite a deal

I'm in for a full kit, bike and TT helmet. Then I will rule the Saturday morning ride, oh yes.

wtf. like weisel actually needs the dough. if it is him, he ought to be selling these for charity not his own fat wallet.

It's not the guys from the Trek team selling those bikes but a Bike shop that apparently purchased all of the bikes and is trying to recoup their investment. Don't throw out words like "Ignorant" and "Idiots" unless you're able to keep up! :thumbsup:


Its not a shop. Tailwind is the owner of the Discovery Channel team.

http://www.christov.net/cats/pwned.jpg

HAHA consider me PWNED! Didn't know that. Oh well it's still a rip off! HAHA

I'm speechless. why couldn't he do an auction on behalf of cancer research, or something? He must know a guy that has a small charitable foundation.

I can't believe this guy comes into ebay as a total noob, and expect someone to pay over $10grand for a used bike that has a disclaimer that covers his ass in every way:

"Trek Bicycle Corporation, any and all component manufacturers and their staff DO NOT CERTIFY THAT THIS BIKE, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IS IN RIDING CONDITION AND ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED TO THE BIKE OR ANY INDIVIDUALS ATTEMPTING TO RIDE THE BIKE."

If the bike has structural damage, then you're SOL.. and basically paying $10 grand a name sticker.

Do you think people buy these bikes to actually ride? I thought some rich person would buy them for display only.

Back when Motorola folded, it was before the big Ebay rush, so they brought their "stuff" to local races in the midwest. I managed to get a few spoked wheels that were in good shape. If I remember correctly, the frames were going for around $700/$800

wtf. like weisel actually needs the dough. if it is him, he ought to be selling these for charity not his own fat wallet.


Not just Weisel.

Tailwind is also Lance Armstrong and Bill Stapleton as well as a few others.

Unbelievable

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtailwindsportscorp

Hmm...

10grand for a top end carbon bike with DA and carbon tubies?

That seems reasonable. I mean I don't know the exact prices for those things... But I was under the impression that when everything is top shelf, you'll get a bike in the price range of around 9-10grand.

So I guess the trade off is between an "authentic" name sticker + used, or a new bike without a name sticker...

While I wouldn't buy one of those, I could imagine someone else doing so who isn't considered "off his rocker."

Hmm...

10grand for a top end carbon bike with DA and carbon tubies?

That seems reasonable. I mean I don't know the exact prices for those things... But I was under the impression that when everything is top shelf, you'll get a bike in the price range of around 9-10grand.

So I guess the trade off is between an "authentic" name sticker + used, or a new bike without a name sticker...

While I wouldn't buy one of those, I could imagine someone else doing so who isn't considered "off his rocker."

Except you are talking about a new bike.

These are used ProTour bikes. Pressure washed nightly, packed and unpacked, riden countless miles and generally abused by whoever's name is on the top tube.

These will be far from cosmetically perfect or in perfect shape. So where is the deal?

Quickstep sold their much more desireable VXR & VXRS bikes for €1750 without wheels and €2000 with Racing 1's because they were USED.

Except you are talking about a new bike.

These are used ProTour bikes. Pressure washed nightly, packed and unpacked, riden countless miles and generally abused by whoever's name is on the top tube.

These will be far from cosmetically perfect or in perfect shape. So where is the deal?

Quickstep sold their much more desireable VXR & VXRS bikes for €1750 without wheels and €2000 with Racing 1's because they were USED.

They sold their 2007 specialized with Fulcrum tubulars for 1700 euros...

The same happened when 7-11 had a garage sale. You could drive over there and pick up an entire bike for $1200. Those were the days..

Back when Motorola folded, it was before the big Ebay rush, so they brought their "stuff" to local races in the midwest. I managed to get a few spoked wheels that were in good shape. If I remember correctly, the frames were going for around $700/$800

The least they could do for those prices is have the guys sign the bike and throw in a signed pic of them on the bike. At least that would make it somewhat collectible to the Disco fanboys out there.

Agreed that this would be better served as a charity auction.

But think of all the money you save w/ free shipping. :p

But think of all the money you save w/ free shipping. :p





Finally, someone saw the bright side to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im going to bid on every bike. I invite everyone to outbid me.

Thanks for the link OP. I'll be buying Vladimir Gusev's bike on Monday.

No one except people who spend their time on RBR forums has even HEARD of these people!

would assume these bikes are all left from the tour of Georgia, you can assume that everything else has been packed away in a secret location in Belgium that only Julian knows about.

What would a top end bike with carbon tubies IN BEAT UP CONDITION go for on ebay?

Maybe $3000? $3500 tops? So that's $7K for the sticker. And god forbid, a sticker of a 2nd year pro who has won no races and makes $35K a year.

With the possible exception of Big Georgie, I can't see any of the other names worth $7K. Armstrong's sticker probably can command that kind of markup, but others? No way.

The ultimate verdict would be how many of these end up selling.

Personally, I have bought a Jovelin alu bike with full DA ridden by under 23 US National Champion for right around $1K.

Hmm...

10grand for a top end carbon bike with DA and carbon tubies?

That seems reasonable. I mean I don't know the exact prices for those things... But I was under the impression that when everything is top shelf, you'll get a bike in the price range of around 9-10grand.

So I guess the trade off is between an "authentic" name sticker + used, or a new bike without a name sticker...

While I wouldn't buy one of those, I could imagine someone else doing so who isn't considered "off his rocker."

I would rather get a completely custom frame with choice of components and wheels then go buy a REALLY nice bottle of booze to drink while I put it all together.

I would rather get a completely custom frame with choice of components and wheels then go buy a REALLY nice bottle of booze to drink while I put it all together.
I second that motion.

of my visit to the Clinton Presidential Library (Little Rock, AR) last summer. There's a USPS Trek (?5200) on display labeled as "the bike ridden by Lance Armstrong to his 1999 Tour de France victory". A close look at the bike showed the Metropolis Bikes badge (a shop in Wash DC) and an Ultegra gruppo. I wondered if Lance pulled a fast one on Bill or if Bill sent someone around to the bike shop for a copy and kept the real one for himself.

They also had a signed TDF yellow jersey labelled as "cycling jersey gift from Lance Armstrong".

BTW don't buy the Gusev bike, that has to be the most beaten up one, he's the classics specialist.

But think of all the money you save w/ free shipping. :p
I was on the fence till I saw your post. I'm buying 4.

I thought they rode the mid range black carbon this year. At any rate, what do those bikes go for new?

Back when Motorola folded, it was before the big Ebay rush, so they brought their "stuff" to local races in the midwest. I managed to get a few spoked wheels that were in good shape. If I remember correctly, the frames were going for around $700/$800

Yes...in 98 Team Motorola was at the Madison Swap Meet. Saturn was there as well. I scored some Dura Ace 8 speed gear back then as well as some pedals and Cinelli stems that I still have around the workshop. They were selling stuff DIRT cheap.
Actually in 2005 I remember Kodak Gallery at Veloswap in SF selling their stuff (which was in REALLY good condition from what I recall) for very good prices. I got a bunch of brand new Maxxis Detonators that they were selling for $10 each.

The prices they're asking for these Ebay bikes are just ridiculous...

Can someone link me when the unused EPO comes on the bay..

I sure as heck wouldn't buy a bike like that to ride. Pros beat on equipment because that's what they're paid to do -there is no prize for shiniest bike or truest wheels- and I'm not sure how good an investment a bike like that would be. On the other hand, if I had millions lying around doing nothing other than collecting interest I might be interested in George's bike as a wall hanging.

I can't believe this guy comes into ebay as a total noob, and expect someone to pay over $10grand for a used bike that has a disclaimer that covers his ass in every way:

"Trek Bicycle Corporation, any and all component manufacturers and their staff DO NOT CERTIFY THAT THIS BIKE, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IS IN RIDING CONDITION AND ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED TO THE BIKE OR ANY INDIVIDUALS ATTEMPTING TO RIDE THE BIKE."

If the bike has structural damage, then you're SOL.. and basically paying $10 grand a name sticker.

This guy you refer to is tailwind sports. It's legit. The article is posted in thepaceline.com - the official website of the team and riders and all updates on them.

It's the company that is selling the bikes and helmets of the riders and it's for fans and hardcore collectors. If people think it's ridiculous, then don't buy it. Simple. I'm a huge fan but I don't have that kinda $$ to burn so no I'm not getting anything. If I made a ton of money, then yes, I'd want one of the stuff they are selling.

Anyway, a TT bike would be kinda safe for the rider to ride as they'd hardly be crashed and if you check out the riders' news, you'd know which riders have crashed in TTs too. Also, the riders don't normally have their TT bikes with them as it's in a Team storage and are brought to the racing venues if needed. Well, at least not all the riders get to keep their TT bikes and the same goes for the Giro Rev 6 helmets. Unless you are Alberto, George, Levi and such of course. I know this from a fact as I know a rider's family member.

So, what I'm saying is, the disclaimer is there to ensure people know that these bikes have been used in pro races and aren't certified as safe because some have been crashed. Of course, they are safe as if not, the riders won't continue to use them in their races. But, for the general public, the disclaimer is there so that Tailwind sports won't be liable should a buyer ride a frame and it fails for whatever reason. So if you wanna ride it, then get it thoroughly inspected first of course.

No warranties because it's essentially second hand. And, the seller, as I've said, is Tailwind Sports, the owner of the Discovery Channel Pro Cycling team. They decided to release the stuff for sale for hardcore collectors.

There.

Finally, someone saw the bright side to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im going to bid on every bike. I invite everyone to outbid me.

Ok mister millionaire, please donate one to me for keepsake. Thankz. No, donate 2 to me so I can sell one and give the money raised to charity while I keep one just coz I want to keep it.

:D

The bikes are OCLV BLACK, the second tier ones from Trek and at those exorbitant prices, it's really, really, reeeaaallly expensive, especially since they're used a heck of a lot.

Gusev's bike is probably one of the least rideable without inspection given all the classics he raced in. And Allan Davis, the sprinter must have exerted tremendous forces in his BB area so that's out too.

I am surprised at the very high asking price for it, especially since the money isn't listed as going to charity. If it were, then yes, it's forgiveable since the buyer, who would be a huge fan I assume, would know he's doing a good deed and given that he wanted it, he'd probably not mind shelling that much to charity instead and ending up with a token to keep.


To those who asked, new, those bikes with those wheels (Madones) would go for probably around $5k or so.

The TTX on the other hand would go for more with the H3 and rear disc. Those bikes are probably the most rideable.

But, I'm still surprised that the proceeds won't go to charity, or at least, they are not announced as such. wtf??

Buying a used bike is fine (although priced very high) but the used helmets???? Those helmets are probably very well used. Don't think I would be wearing one of those.

Buying a used bike is fine (although priced very high) but the used helmets???? Those helmets are probably very well used. Don't think I would be wearing one of those.

But those helmets aren't available for retail at all. It's the Giro Rev 6.

Besides, they are only used in TTs and some of them don't TT much so yeah. :wink:

Except you are talking about a new bike.

These are used ProTour bikes. Pressure washed nightly, packed and unpacked, riden countless miles and generally abused by whoever's name is on the top tube.

These will be far from cosmetically perfect or in perfect shape. So where is the deal?

Quickstep sold their much more desireable VXR & VXRS bikes for €1750 without wheels and €2000 with Racing 1's because they were USED.Thanks for lifting half my post from Tuesday!!

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37508

in some circles 10K to ride George's bike would be considered quite a deal

Really?

I mean, maybe that's true, but I would guess that the population of well-funded die-hard fans who are willing and able to start the bidding at those price points gets thinner and thinner as you head down the roster. George is a fine pro rider, and was an important lieutenant to LA, and for US fans maybe certain bits of the fine Palmares really stand out -- I get it that George has fans, even though he never was an LA, or, for that matter, a Boonen, Bettini, Museeuw, Di Lucca, etc. -- you can stretch the list a bit really. At any rate, I like and admire George and don't mean to diss the palmares by putting it in context. But how far down the list do you go? Are folks paying big bucks for the B team riders' bikes that never rode in the TdF? Really, they're all good and hard working athletes and way better racers than I ever was or imagined I'd be, and it's all good, but is it reasonable to expect folks to jump at this gear, at these prices, with no inspection or assurances? Maybe I'm off, or maybe they are, or maybe it doesn't really matter, but I notice that there's no actual bidding on most of these bikes.

I can't believe this guy comes into ebay as a total noob, and expect someone to pay over $10grand for a used bike that has a disclaimer that covers his ass in every way:

"Trek Bicycle Corporation, any and all component manufacturers and their staff DO NOT CERTIFY THAT THIS BIKE, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IS IN RIDING CONDITION AND ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED TO THE BIKE OR ANY INDIVIDUALS ATTEMPTING TO RIDE THE BIKE."

If the bike has structural damage, then you're SOL.. and basically paying $10 grand a name sticker.

You can't expect to buy this stuff from a group run by an attorney (Bill Stapleton) and not get a broad disclaimer. Since I live in Austin I won't save any shipping so I guess I'm out. So much for a good deal.

BTW don't buy the Gusev bike, that has to be the most beaten up one, he's the classics specialist.

haha dude I'm a 20yr old college student looking for a way to afford next months rent. No way in hell would I buy one of those bikes :)

Well, since Tailwind also includes LA and Stapleton, that makes all the sense why they need to sell these bikes for this kind of money. Since this is the internet, I'll let everybody know that was a joke.

Exactly who owns Tailwind is probably not known in this circle. If it is a corporation, do any of us really know who owns shares in it?

I'm not a big fan of Discovery or Trek bikes, so $10,000+ seems completely nuts to me. In fact, with the Mitchell report out on baseball and all the doping that has gone on in cycling, I seriously doubt I would spend any money on any memorabilia at this point.

I love Colnagos and I really like the Rabobank team, but I would't spend $10,000 for Rasmussen's Extreme C that he rode in this past TdF. I'd rather ride my own brand new one and save a couple grand.