View Full Version : Carbon clinchers
Frankie13 01-29-2008, 05:53 PM I'm about to build a new bike and this time I would like to use carbon clinchers and would like some recomendations from you guys.I'm 150lbs and don't race,but do mostly group rides at the weekend and train for my self during the week.The roads are from very hilly to rolling hills and nice flat as well.I should be able to put around 3to4000k on them since I will use my madone for my training rides.
What carbone clinchers would you recommend?
I looked at the Reynolds DV46C, MV32C, Bontrager Aeolus 5.0 Clincher or Zipp 404,303.
What do you think since I will do ride alot of hills as well?Maybe some of them are to deep for climing and more for TT.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
btrutta 01-29-2008, 06:25 PM DV46, I've used mine for racing, training, even commuting. I'm around 155, never had any problems with them, climb fine and not hard to handle in a crosswind. I've put quite a few miles on attacks also (same rim depth as the MV32C, but a little heavier) They are nice also but I would go for the deeper section rim.
wankski 01-29-2008, 06:53 PM yea, carbon is more for deep profile or alternaively for really low weight. That's what confuses me here, u want Clinchers which aren't usually light, and you also dont want deep?? if you mainly do hills and want clinchers and low profile that is still good in the wind, consider 30mm alu rims, light ones like the Nobiums...
if you want deep clinchers, flashpoint rims may be a good idea, but are heavy @ c 600g a piece...
there are good middle of the road options... zipp 303s like you mention... but again, going clincher removes some of the weight advantage they have... the C version is 1580g which u can definately beat with 30mm alloy, altho the 303s are 40mm... the Tubie version makes a tad more sense b/c the set comes in @ c1100g. Reynolds are non-existent over here so can't comment on that, tho i know ppl here on RBR refer to them as durable....
Dizzy812 01-29-2008, 07:04 PM +2 DV46
Very impressed w/ these wheels . . .
Frankie13 01-30-2008, 01:35 AM The DV46 was my first choice since they come with DT hubs as the MV32C as well. I was reading a bit on the net and the MV32C supose to be a little better for climbing with 32mm deep.I want full carbon without alu rim.It's hilly here in the San Antonio Hill Country but they are not the Alps either.So maybe the DV46 will not to deep for that kind of hills after all and by the way,I really like the looks of the 46.
bopApocalypse 01-30-2008, 09:09 AM The DV46 was my first choice since they come with DT hubs as the MV32C as well. I was reading a bit on the net and the MV32C supose to be a little better for climbing with 32mm deep.I want full carbon without alu rim.It's hilly here in the San Antonio Hill Country but they are not the Alps either.So maybe the DV46 will not to deep for that kind of hills after all and by the way,I really like the looks of the 46.
If you really want a climbing wheel, look at reynolds KOM. Otherwise, the weight difference between the 46 and the 32 is minimal enough atmo that I'd just opt for the aerodynamics of the 46.
GiantNigel 01-30-2008, 09:40 AM Since you're not climbing the Alps or Pyrenees, go for the DV46s. I've read and heard nothing but amazing things about those wheels. Lightweight, durable, fast, smooth, stiff/responsive, and great hubs--AND they look the business.
They'll help you more than the 32s on the flats, and you almost certainly won't notice the difference at all on the climbs, plus they'll even help you more on the post-climb (downhill) sections. Your bike and your speedometer will definitely thank you. Come to think of it, the extra stiffness of the deeper rims may even help you on the climbs efficiency-wise. If the pros climb with deep rims over anything but the highest mountains, then we all can.
I was about to grab a set of those recently but couldn't quite afford them, so instead went with new Mavic Cosmic Carbone Premiums.They're quite different (alu rim/carbon fairing) and weigh a good bit more, but they've been amazing for me so far; changed the way my already great Cdale System Six rides and handles. If I had the dough for the DV46s, though, I'd be on them now.
I hope this helps. Best of luck with the wheels you get.
Nige
Johnnysmooth 01-30-2008, 11:33 AM I have both the DV46Cs and the MV32s (tubular). I also used to live in San Antonio so I know the terrain. My suggestion, go with the DVs.
chase196126 01-30-2008, 11:37 AM +3 For the DV 46
I got to test some of those wheels last year because our team is sponsored by Reynolds. They are fantastic! They are light enough to climb on and very stiff as well. The aero profile is also very noticeable on the speedy sections of rides. To give an idea of the advantage from these wheels:
Whenever i get something new I like to test it on my street (its around a quarter mile long and a slight false flat, with the hill working against me) in a sprint. When I tested the wheels I was on a Felt F4C with 2001 (i think..) ROLF sestrieres. The average speed i could get up to on my own in a sprint was around 33-34 MPH. I put the DV 46's on my felt and my sprint was upped to 37 MPH with no extra effort. The only other equipment that has given me that type of results is when i switch from my felt to my Cervelo R3. Look into a set of these wheels!
MIN in PDX 01-30-2008, 02:52 PM +3 For the DV 46
I got to test some of those wheels last year because our team is sponsored by Reynolds. They are fantastic! They are light enough to climb on and very stiff as well. The aero profile is also very noticeable on the speedy sections of rides. To give an idea of the advantage from these wheels:
Whenever i get something new I like to test it on my street (its around a quarter mile long and a slight false flat, with the hill working against me) in a sprint. When I tested the wheels I was on a Felt F4C with 2001 (i think..) ROLF sestrieres. The average speed i could get up to on my own in a sprint was around 33-34 MPH. I put the DV 46's on my felt and my sprint was upped to 37 MPH with no extra effort. The only other equipment that has given me that type of results is when i switch from my felt to my Cervelo R3. Look into a set of these wheels!
3-4 MPH? Placebo effect is very strong indeed.
Frankie13 01-30-2008, 02:59 PM Thanks for all the replies,I think I will go with the DV46 since the weight diff.is not that big like bopApocalypse already did say.Can't wait to build up my new ride.
Kerry Irons 01-30-2008, 04:56 PM +The average speed i could get up to on my own in a sprint was around 33-34 MPH. I put the DV 46's on my felt and my sprint was upped to 37 MPH with no extra effort. The only other equipment that has given me that type of results is when i switch from my felt to my Cervelo R3. Look into a set of these wheels!
So, what are you smoking? You are claiming an aerodynamic drag reduction that is 5 times that seen when the best aero wheels on the planet are compared to a 32 spoke box section rim wheel. I would say "Don't kid yourself," but it appears too late for that.
wankski 01-30-2008, 05:09 PM also wondering why a cervelo R3 is around 3mph faster than a felt. Unless the felt was waay too small for you or something..
chase196126 01-30-2008, 06:47 PM I know it sounds farfetched on both, but what reason do i have to lie? I found an immediate difference between the felt and the cervelo simply because the felt was like a wet noodle under power. I would be in races, get out of the saddle to sprint and i would think my rear wheel had gone flat. Also when hooked up to the trainer the BB would touch the rear wheel when i peddled in mid to large gears, and on climbs i could see it sway side to side. I did find a crack in the non drive side chainstay after getting the R3 which i am sure was the issue.
MIN in PDX 01-30-2008, 06:56 PM perhaps but you are still a statistical outlier.
pkgdave9144 01-30-2008, 08:45 PM Hey man...if putting the wheels on makes him faster, then put the wheels on!
Fact: When I ride in my skull-crossbones socks, I ride faster. Do I think its a placebo effect? YES. Bottom line, I ride faster. Who the F%^& cares why/how the socks make me faster. I put them on, my brain makes more endomorphins or whatever. I-GO-FASTER.
I also go faster with my Cosmics under me. Are they wind-tunnel-provable faster than my other wheels? Very slightly. But the bottom line is, I-GO-FASTER. I damn well know they shouldnt make me a heck of a lot faster (Masters in Engineering ) but it just happens.
MIN in PDX 01-30-2008, 09:04 PM whatever sandbagger
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