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Live Steam
02-18-2008, 07:42 PM
These are dangerous people for sure. How anyone could contemplate voting for either of them is dumbfounding.

February 18, 2008 Is an October Surrender in the Making?

By James Lewis (http://www.americanthinker.com/james_lewis/)
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Get this: Right in the middle of the hottest presidential primary in decades, both Obama and Hillary are sending their foreign policy honchos to Damascus (http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=71373&v=0271713021). These advisors are people who have a chance of running US foreign policy in the next administration.

They aren't shy. They are taking over our foreign affairs right now, because they are entitled to. They know better than our elected officials.

What are they doing in Damascus? Not having a Christian conversion experience, for sure. Damascus is a world sanctuary for Islamic terrorists. One of them, Imad Mughniyeh, was just assassinated there (http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/mughniyahs_assasination.html). He ran Hezbollah's secret operations from Damascus.

Damascus has also been the transit point for thousands of jihadis going to Iraq to commit suicide-murders against Americans and Iraqis. If you want to talk to Al Qaida and the gang, Damascus is your place. Syria's President Assad is also Iran's best buddy in the Arab world. (Iran is the State Department's biggest terror-sponsoring state.) So Assad is the go-to guy for all the terror sponsors.

The New York Sunwrites (http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=71373&v=0271713021):

"The same week that a terrorist mastermind harbored by the Baathist regime in Damascus was assassinated by a car bomb, both one of Mr. Obama's foreign policy counselors, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a long-time critic of Israel, and one of Mrs. Clinton's national finance chairs, Hassan Nemazee, were meeting with President Assad."

If you're too young to remember the name Zbigniew Brzezinski, he is Jimmy Carter foreign policy genius, on whose watch the Iranian mullahs got into thirty years of power -- with a nuke coming right up. Brzezinski still thinks today that he and Jimmy were right to bring in old mass-murdering Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979. These people are never wrong. Would you trust this guy to represent the United States against Islamofascist terror types?

It's obvious that Hillabama desperately need to send a can't-wait message to the people who attacked us on 9/11. So urgent that they can't even wait for the Democrats to declare a presidential candidate, or to defeat John McCain. This must be a message Hillary and Obama are coordinating with each other, since they are sending both of their foreign policy advisors at the same time to the same place.

Question: What message would that be?

Here's a fair guess. They are telling Terror Central to hold any plans to attack us during the presidential election. Why? Because another 9/11 attack before the election would give the presidency to John McCain, who looks like a hard-ball guy militarily.

It's the reverse of the October Surprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise_conspiracy_theory) Theory: Call it the October Surrender Theory. The Terror Masters have huge leverage with the Democrats, because they can keep Obama or Hillary out of the White House. You can bet that they know it. They are using that leverage today.

To get the terrorists to cooperate, the Dems would have to be making promises. What are they? That's easy. The Democrats have been telling us in the Op-Ed pages for years.

First. Give up US cooperation with Israel. (See Jimmy Carter's latest book (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/002-2294784-4872030?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Jimmy+Carter&x=0&y=0).) The aim is a US-imposed "peace treaty" -- which would be very fine if Hamas and the gang could be trusted to follow a peace treaty. But as Yasser Arafat made so clear when Israel offered him 90% of the West Bank, a peace with Israel is not what they want. Arafat told Bill Clinton at Camp David that he would be assassinated if he signed a peace treaty with Israel. If anything, Palestinian politics today is even more radical today than it was then.

Remember, this is the fantasy life of the Left. Facts don't count.

A leading Israeli Leftist just told Secretary of State Condi Rice (http://www.thejewishweek.com/index.cfm?zx=viewArticle&c=41&a=1531) recently that "Israel needs to be raped." But when push comes to shove, chances are that most Israelis will decide, no thanks, we'll fight. So this version of "peace in our time" is very likely to mean "war in our time." Israel is not so dependent upon us that it will choose another Holocaust.

Second. The Democrats have been pounding the table for four years that the US should get out of Iraq as quickly as possible. We can only take them at their word. Notice that our ambassador in Iraq just warned (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/16/uselections2008.usa) against a hasty withdrawal from Baghdad -- even though diplomats are never supposed to say such things in public. The timing is significant. He can read the signs.

Remember that the Democrats think the US defeat in Vietnam and the fall of Saigon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigon) was a foreign policy success. The United States needs a bloody nose, they think, to teach us some humility forever. So they want to see those US helicopters taking the last refugees off Baghdad high rise buildings. They don't mind a massive refugee flight like the Vietnamese Boat People and a new Killing Fields in Iraq. It's just breaking some more eggs to make another bloody omelet.

After all, they didn't mind it with the Vietnam War, did they? These are the people who shrugged (http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/boomers_and_the_vietnam_shrug.html) and rationalized genocide whenever it was committed by the Left ever since Lenin took over Russia -- for a total of 100 million dead in the 20th century alone. They haven't changed one bit.

Third. The Dems want to negotiate a retreat from the Persian Gulf. It might look like an agreement between the Arab Gulf States and Iran. In fact, as soon as the US Navy leaves the Gulf, it means a surrender to the Iranian theocracy. The Democrats would make sure we can never come back, no matter what the Iranians do.

The benefit to the United States? Peace in our time. The benefit to the Democrats? Another Carter-Clinton Presidency, but a really successful one this time, because this time our enemies will be nice.

And if you believe that, vote Hillabama!

James Lewis blogs at dangeroustimes.wordpress.com (http://dangeroustimes.wordpress.com/)

Len J
02-18-2008, 07:53 PM
You are really scraping the bottom of the barel of credibility with that slop.

LOL

Len

Live Steam
02-18-2008, 08:02 PM
Why are they visiting a known terrorist state now and together? You don't like what you see, but that doesn't make it "slop" only sloppy on their part. They are dangerous people and should be exposed as such. Sorry you disagree Len.

Live Steam
02-18-2008, 08:12 PM
Just some visual observations. The crescent is so obvious as to be blatant.

http://www.barackobama.com/images/widgets/Obama08_ThumbLogo200.gif http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/Islamic_Flag.gif

http://www.skysight.net/cgi-bin/genesis/web_pages/BeeyondSight/Historical/khilafah1.jpg

http://www.holidayrent.org/Extra_information/moorish%20cities/cordoba/cordoba21.jpg

http://www.holidayrent.org/Extra_information/moorish%20cities/cordoba/cordoba19.jpg

The Caliphate of Cordoba

Creakyknees
02-18-2008, 08:45 PM
I say, bring them on. Let the Barak and Nancy show run things for a while.

I think we need some eggs breaking to really prove to the middle 80% of voters what's at stake here, and what the consequences mean.

Jesse D Smith
02-18-2008, 08:53 PM
Just some visual observations. The crescent is so obvious as to be blatant.

http://www.barackobama.com/images/widgets/Obama08_ThumbLogo200.gif http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/Islamic_Flag.gif

http://www.skysight.net/cgi-bin/genesis/web_pages/BeeyondSight/Historical/khilafah1.jpg

http://www.holidayrent.org/Extra_information/moorish%20cities/cordoba/cordoba21.jpg

http://www.holidayrent.org/Extra_information/moorish%20cities/cordoba/cordoba19.jpg

The Caliphate of Cordoba

Yeah, but why worry? McCain has it sewn up, Obama will be unmasked, sent to Gitmo, and you'll be commended. SWEET!

Live Steam
02-18-2008, 09:30 PM
The Dome of the Rock
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_l_pics/israel/jerusalem/11-0011.jpg
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/%7Eishaq/pal/pics/jerusalem/jer13.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/428458245_079bd3ff25.jpg?v=1174423247

den bakker
02-18-2008, 09:35 PM
The Dome of the Rock
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_l_pics/israel/jerusalem/11-0011.jpg
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/%7Eishaq/pal/pics/jerusalem/jer13.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/428458245_079bd3ff25.jpg?v=1174423247


You have cypress hills over or something?

Are you sure Barak is not saying he is using one of these to contact the commie aliens?
http://btc.montana.edu/CERES/html/MtnQuest/images/keck.jpg

physasst
02-19-2008, 01:38 AM
The Dome of the Rock
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_l_pics/israel/jerusalem/11-0011.jpg
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/%7Eishaq/pal/pics/jerusalem/jer13.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/428458245_079bd3ff25.jpg?v=1174423247




The Dome is one of the prettiest Mosques in the world. Steam, this garbage you continually cut and paste has as much credibility as "The Enquirer"....What's next, Obama had a secret alien love child? As someone who not only lived in the ME as a child, but then spent time there in uniform, I find your loose associations amusing

You know, here's the most ironic and comical part to me. The diehard cons are continually saying how the Iraqi people deserve the best chance at a future, and that the country is worth us staying there to make it right. Well, here's the thing, you can't have it both ways. THE most effective leader would be someone with a muslim sounding name who is a skilled orator, and JUST maybe, just maybe could pull the warring factions together in Iraq......diplomacy is what is going to solve the issues in Iraq....Romney would have been a better choice than what you are stuck with.

THE IRONY IS PALPABLE....

slitespd
02-19-2008, 02:46 AM
The Dome of the Rock
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_l_pics/israel/jerusalem/11-0011.jpg
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/%7Eishaq/pal/pics/jerusalem/jer13.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/428458245_079bd3ff25.jpg?v=1174423247



Oh no domes and stripes, run for cover!!

the_rydster
02-19-2008, 03:18 AM
Just some visual observations. The crescent is so obvious as to be blatant.


Yep and the KKK get the profits from Marlboro cigarettes...the proof is on the packets if you turn them up-side-down and use a mirror...oh and there is anti-semitic propaganda on them as well. :crazy:

/feel free to fritter away the last few cents of your credibility any which way you choose.

walleyeangler
02-19-2008, 03:33 AM
Thank you, I needed a laugh this morning and seeing someone try to link the Dems to an Islamic conspiracy is just the ticket. I suspect Masonic involvement.

xxl
02-19-2008, 04:20 AM
I live in a place I thought was relatively free from terrorist incursions, but this is our logo:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/dist9/images/OFFICIAL.ColorStateSeal.gif

Should I be worried?

colker1
02-19-2008, 06:25 AM
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c'mon steam.. it's only circles. settle down.

Bocephus Jones II
02-19-2008, 06:29 AM
These are dangerous people for sure. How anyone could contemplate voting for either of them is dumbfounding.

Jeeze Steam...you're starting to sound like a freeper. :crazy:

SilasCL
02-19-2008, 09:17 AM
Next you'll tell me that the CIA under W's watch was working with Syria to torture terrorists there?

Why not just have Muhammad himself crap on our constitution.

JoeDaddio
02-19-2008, 09:25 AM
Do you want my tin foil hat?




joe

Live Steam
02-19-2008, 04:17 PM
Like I would look for "credibility" from an Internet forum. Okydokie!

Look Obama brought this on himself. He does not wear a US flag on his lapel - actually he removed it to make a statement. From many accounts, he does not say the pledge or hold his hand on his heart when the National Anthem is played. I wonder if he has an American flag in his senate office as I would bet every other senator does. His logo is obviously an "O" but there is something that strikes me every time I look at it.

Symbols are very powerful and even more so in certain cultures. The crescent is an expressely powerful symbol on the Islamic culture. The images I posted I obtained after doing some research.

After considering that he does not seem to honor the US flag, may have contact with NOI operatives and may have been schooled in a wahabi school, it seemed like something fun to look at.

http://www.stentorian.com/MoveOn/ObamaFarrakhan.jpg

rufus
02-19-2008, 05:44 PM
Like I would look for "credibility" from an Internet forum. Okydokie!

Look Obama brought this on himself. He does not wear a US flag on his lapel - actually he removed it to make a statement. From many accounts, he does not say the pledge or hold his hand on his heart when the National Anthem is played. I wonder if he has an American flag in his senate office as I would bet every other senator does. His logo is obviously an "O" but there is something that strikes me every time I look at it.

Symbols are very powerful and even more so in certain cultures. The crescent is an expressely powerful symbol on the Islamic culture. The images I posted I obtained after doing some research.

After considering that he does not seem to honor the US flag, may have contact with NOI operatives and may have been schooled in a wahabi school, it seemed like something fun to look at.

http://www.stentorian.com/MoveOn/ObamaFarrakhan.jpg

all BS, if you'd get your news information from any other place besides your rightwingnut internet sources.

The ones you do go to looking for credibility.

Snakebit
02-19-2008, 05:48 PM
all BS, if you'd get your news information from any other place besides your rightwingnut internet sources.

The ones you do go to looking for credibility.

It has been my experience that they are much harder to find than the leftwingnut internet sources.

atpjunkie
02-19-2008, 08:08 PM
he jumped the shark a couple seasons ago

god and not even lame level photoshop C & P of Farakhan into that picture

at least I have a really clear idea what desperation sounds and looks like

rufus
02-20-2008, 04:35 AM
It has been my experience that they are much harder to find than the leftwingnut internet sources.

Ask Steamy, he knows where they are, he'll be able to point you in the right drection.

I'll help you with his big three; do a Google search for Powerline, Newsmax, and Captain's Quarters.

atpjunkie
02-20-2008, 07:02 AM
Ask Steamy, he knows where they are, he'll be able to point you in the right drection.

I'll help you with his big three; do a Google search for Powerline, Newsmax, and Captain's Quarters.

rows of crops hmmmmmmm appealing to the heartland

rising sun in clear morning sky- it's anewday, change is a coming

sky is punched with sun circle making it arch (like a crescent in Steams world) or like a rainbow, the eternal symbol of hope

unless of course Rainbows are part of the Islamo-FAscist movement

bahueh
02-20-2008, 04:03 PM
live dragons are out to get you too..
http://www.grand-illusions.com/opticalillusions/dragon_illusion/

be very careful. put the finishing touches on your safe room/bomb shelter and prepare
for evacuation on 1.20.09.
we'll miss ya...well, not really...just being nice.