dr hoo
02-19-2008, 08:06 AM
K, voted today.
In the past week we got 2 robo calls from the clinton campaign, touting her speaking 60 miles away. We also got a robocall from them (her voice) yesterday. And a flyer in the mail.
This past weekend we got 2 calls for obama. After he spoke here, nothing before Both live, actual, human beings.
Which do you think will have more impact on undecided voters? Which do you think shows better organization, and more people availble to put to work?
Also, i wanted to pass this little bit of stupidity along from the clinton campaign:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/15759032.html
HERE'S A LITTLE political banana peel.
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign failed to file a full slate of convention delegate candidates for Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.
This despite the possibility the primary proves critical and despite Clinton owning the full-throated support of Gov. Rendell, state Democratic Party leadership, Mayor Nutter and, presumably, the organizational skill all that entails.
And despite a Rendell-ordered extension of the filing deadline that could be viewed as more than just coincidental.
"There are a number of Clinton delegates that did not file for reasons of illness or other issues," Democratic state chairman T.J. Rooney conceded yesterday after being questioned by the Daily News.
He initially said he was unaware of the fact, but confirmed it after checking with Clinton's state delegate petition organizer.
It appears Clinton came up 10 or 11 candidates short across a number of congressional districts, including two in Philadelphia.
That's close to 10 percent of the 103 delegates to be decided by voters.
It appears the shortage would've been double that if Rendell hadn't extended last week's candidate filing deadline by a day and a half, ostensibly due to bad weather.
This at a time when Clinton's campaign, like Barack Obama's - which did file a full slate in the state - hoards delegates like diamonds.
Going into today's Wisconsin primary, Obama leads Clinton by just 61 delegates (1,322 to 1,262 with 2,025 needed to win).
But Clinton's faux pas is more of an image problem than a practical one.
Under Democratic Party rules (and does any organization on the planet have more rules or more complex rules?) a presidential candidate winning in a congressional district gets delegates from that district (assigned at a later date) whether he or she files slates delegates or not.
Still.
For a national campaign stressing competence, experience, "ready day one," one might expect a full slate in what could be a key state.
Details matter, and the obama campaign is crossing all the 't's and dotting all the 'i's all the way. Clinton, not so much. Heck, they didn't even know the texas rules, even though they were banking on tx/oh/pa after super tuesday!
In the past week we got 2 robo calls from the clinton campaign, touting her speaking 60 miles away. We also got a robocall from them (her voice) yesterday. And a flyer in the mail.
This past weekend we got 2 calls for obama. After he spoke here, nothing before Both live, actual, human beings.
Which do you think will have more impact on undecided voters? Which do you think shows better organization, and more people availble to put to work?
Also, i wanted to pass this little bit of stupidity along from the clinton campaign:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/15759032.html
HERE'S A LITTLE political banana peel.
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign failed to file a full slate of convention delegate candidates for Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.
This despite the possibility the primary proves critical and despite Clinton owning the full-throated support of Gov. Rendell, state Democratic Party leadership, Mayor Nutter and, presumably, the organizational skill all that entails.
And despite a Rendell-ordered extension of the filing deadline that could be viewed as more than just coincidental.
"There are a number of Clinton delegates that did not file for reasons of illness or other issues," Democratic state chairman T.J. Rooney conceded yesterday after being questioned by the Daily News.
He initially said he was unaware of the fact, but confirmed it after checking with Clinton's state delegate petition organizer.
It appears Clinton came up 10 or 11 candidates short across a number of congressional districts, including two in Philadelphia.
That's close to 10 percent of the 103 delegates to be decided by voters.
It appears the shortage would've been double that if Rendell hadn't extended last week's candidate filing deadline by a day and a half, ostensibly due to bad weather.
This at a time when Clinton's campaign, like Barack Obama's - which did file a full slate in the state - hoards delegates like diamonds.
Going into today's Wisconsin primary, Obama leads Clinton by just 61 delegates (1,322 to 1,262 with 2,025 needed to win).
But Clinton's faux pas is more of an image problem than a practical one.
Under Democratic Party rules (and does any organization on the planet have more rules or more complex rules?) a presidential candidate winning in a congressional district gets delegates from that district (assigned at a later date) whether he or she files slates delegates or not.
Still.
For a national campaign stressing competence, experience, "ready day one," one might expect a full slate in what could be a key state.
Details matter, and the obama campaign is crossing all the 't's and dotting all the 'i's all the way. Clinton, not so much. Heck, they didn't even know the texas rules, even though they were banking on tx/oh/pa after super tuesday!