View Full Version : US even manages to piss off the UK


Bocephus Jones II
02-22-2008, 06:34 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022100822.html?hpid=moreheadlines

So many lies...who's gonna believe us when we actually tell the truth? What the hell is "rendition" anyway? Never heard the term.



CIA Director Michael V. Hayden (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Michael+Hayden?tid=informline) issued a statement saying that information supplied to Bri
tain "in good faith" had "turned out to be wrong."


"That we found this mistake ourselves, and that we brought it to the attention of the British Government (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Parliament+of+the+United+Kingdom?tid=informline), in no way changes or excuses the reality that we were in the wrong," he said.


Hayden said neither terror suspect was a part of the CIA's "high-value terrorist interrogation program."


"These were rendition operations, nothing more," Hayden said. "There has been speculation in the press over the years that CIA had a holding facility on Diego Garcia. That is false. There have also been allegations that we transport detainees for the purpose of torture. That, too, is false."


Miliband said his staff would compile a list of flights that human rights groups suspect were used for rendition, then forward it to officials in Washington "seeking their specific assurance that none of these flights were used" for rendition.


Opposition politicians in Britain said the case undermined the credibility of the Blair and Brown governments, as well as the United States. Menzies Campbell, former leader of the Liberal Democrats, called the incident "a gross embarrassment" for the British government.


Andrew Tyrie, a Conservative Party politician who leads the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Extraordinary Rendition, said in a statement that the matter "will leave the British public unwilling to trust other assurances we have received from the U.S."

stuck
02-22-2008, 06:49 AM
Why admit it if the policy is to lie? Just keep denying. I never understood this criticism, we confess something, then everyone bashes the confessor for having lied about it. If they're such liars why confess?

IIRC rendition is transporting someone you want to interrogate somewhere where you don't have to worry about all those pesky Constitutional issues like cruel and unusual punishment and due process.

/edit: ok, admit it if you get caught, play contrite. Thought about that right after posting. Still think they'd try to keep denying though. Can't our gov't cover up pretty much whatever it wants to? :rolleyes:

gwb
02-22-2008, 07:12 AM
What the hell is "rendition" anyway? Never heard the term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendition_%28law%29

It's a fancy word for extradition....or kidnapping....depending on who you talk to.

It's also refered to as extraordinary rendition in cases where a party is picked up and sent someplace where torture, and cruel punishment, aren't illegal. It's a way to get someone else to do your dirty work for you.

X86BSD
02-22-2008, 07:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendition_%28law%29

It's a fancy word for extradition....or kidnapping....depending on who you talk to.

It's also refered to as extraordinary rendition in cases where a party is picked up and sent someplace where torture, and cruel punishment, aren't illegal. It's a way to get someone else to do your dirty work for you.

Like the Canadian citizen we picked up based on wrongful information that was "renditioned" to Syria and tortured for over a year before being released after being found to be innocent. And BushCo wouldn't even apologize to the man.

Chris

spyderman
02-22-2008, 07:42 AM
The average Brit doesn't really like America. We should be pissed off at them for how they've handled the Israeli/Palestinian problem, or the Paksitan/India problem, or the Iraqi problem.

British incompetence and colonialism is the cause of most of the problems in the world today.

X86BSD
02-22-2008, 07:53 AM
The average Brit doesn't really like America. We should be pissed off at them for how they've handled the Israeli/Palestinian problem, or the Paksitan/India problem, or the Iraqi problem.

British incompetence and colonialism is the cause of most of the problems in the world today.

The average country doesn't like American policy. We have broken, smashed and bombed more countries and democracies around the world than Britain could ever hope to achieve.
So I see your British incompetence and colonialism and raise you an American empire and global domination at all costs.

Chris

California L33
02-22-2008, 08:09 AM
The average country doesn't like American policy. We have broken, smashed and bombed more countries and democracies around the world than Britain could ever hope to achieve.
So I see your British incompetence and colonialism and raise you an American empire and global domination at all costs.

Chris

American learned colonialism from Britain. We're just not as good at it :)