View Full Version : Aero 40mm+clinchers under 1500g ?


stoked
03-16-2008, 10:57 AM
What is available out there besides Reynolds DV46C, Lightweight standard C 1080g $5500(coming soon,can't afford)?? Lew Pro VC-1 Clincher 980g price?? (coming soon) from light-bikes.

Ligero
03-16-2008, 12:23 PM
Edge Composites 68mm clinchers, cx-ray spokes, Alchemy front hub and Tune mag180 rear hub. That should weigh 1425g in a 16f/20r and 1475g in a 20f/24r.

DIRT BOY
03-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Edge Composites 68mm clinchers, cx-ray spokes, Alchemy front hub and Tune mag180 rear hub. That should weigh 1425g in a 16f/20r and 1475g in a 20f/24r.I thought the EDGE clinchers were a few months away.Same with Jeremy's hub?

Ligero
03-16-2008, 01:10 PM
I thought the EDGE clinchers were a few months away.Same with Jeremy's hub?

I was told they pulled my first set of 38mm clinchers out the mold on Friday and they would be making 68 clinchers as soon as they finish the 38 clinchers. Jeremy's front hub is available now or at least it was.

DIRT BOY
03-16-2008, 02:25 PM
I was told they pulled my first set of 38mm clinchers out the mold on Friday and they would be making 68 clinchers as soon as they finish the 38 clinchers. Jeremy's front hub is available now or at least it was.Great. I been waiting for the EDGE clinchers.

backinthesaddle
03-16-2008, 05:03 PM
:rolleyes5: Ligero can't deliver wheels on time...
You're gonna take his word on delivery dates...:rolleyes:

Forrest Root
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
:rolleyes5: Ligero can't deliver wheels on time...
You're gonna take his word on delivery dates...:rolleyes:

If you've got something to say to Ligero, perhaps you ought to say it to him directly, instead of doing it all weaslely, indirectly, and out of the side of your mouth.

Ligero
03-16-2008, 07:15 PM
:rolleyes5: Ligero can't deliver wheels on time...
You're gonna take his word on delivery dates...:rolleyes:

I was repeating what was told to me, so if that makes me a liar so be it.

I have also put some things in motion so that no one will have to wait when ordering wheels from me anymore. Do you have a problem with me trying to make things better or will you continue to bash me when my name comes up?

Forrest Root
03-16-2008, 07:34 PM
I was repeating what was told to me, so if that makes me a liar so be it.

I have also put some things in motion so that no one will have to wait when ordering wheels from me anymore. Do you have a problem with me trying to make things better or will you continue to bash me when my name comes up?

It seems, backinthesaddle, that you have no actual experience with Ligero, that your "statements" are like those a teenage girl would make after hearing lunchroom gossip. Heck, that's below weasle.

stoked
03-18-2008, 01:45 PM
what is going to be price and weight on 38mm and 68mm Edge clincher wheels. Also are they going to have hidden nipples? What is realistic availability date?

Forrest Root
03-18-2008, 02:38 PM
what is going to be price and weight on 38mm and 68mm Edge clincher wheels. Also are they going to have hidden nipples? What is realistic availability date?

They're likely to be about as much as the tubulars, i.e. in the $700+ ish range. The nipples are hidden. I believe Ligero has a set in production right now at Edge.

DIRT BOY
03-18-2008, 02:41 PM
They're likely to be about as much as the tubulars, i.e. in the $700+ ish range. You meant each rim, right?

I am hoping to get some for builds as well very soon.

Forrest Root
03-18-2008, 02:49 PM
You meant each rim, right?

I am hoping to get some for builds as well very soon.


Yup. Each rim. Ligero and Ergott will know better.

DIRT BOY
03-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Yup. Each rim. Ligero and Ergott will know better.I know that. I was told the basically the same price as tubulars as well. The OP asked about wheels, that why I said you meant rims.

stoked
03-18-2008, 03:32 PM
Is $700 for each wheel w/hub & spokes or just the rim?

Forrest Root
03-18-2008, 03:59 PM
Is $700 for each wheel w/hub & spokes or just the rim?

Just rims. Edge doesn't make wheelsets. With that said, though, having a wheel builder--like Ligero, Ergott, and rrough--do a set for you would likely cost $2000 or less. That's my guesstimate which I feel is over the actual price. I can't say exactly what they would charge.

cwg_at_opc
03-18-2008, 04:58 PM
judging by the prices listed, i'd guess the 68 clincher to
be at least 800 if not 850 or 900:

Ligero
03-18-2008, 05:27 PM
what is going to be price and weight on 38mm and 68mm Edge clincher wheels. Also are they going to have hidden nipples? What is realistic availability date?

The weight will be 390 to 400g for the 38 clinchers and the 68's will be 500 to 510g. Yes all of there rims use internal nipples.

I called today to find if I was still getting my 38 clinchers this week and was told that they have run into a problem and it would be a month before I get mine. They did make a few sets of rims but they problem with them is the rim bed. They have put a U shaped channel down the middle to make the tire easier to put on and to help with tubeless compatibility. Well that channel has made it really hard to seat the bead of the tire. So they are changing the shape slightly and then they should be done.

s2ktaxi
03-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Just got my 2008 Reynolds DV46C w/shimano hub. with the supplied rim tape, the wheels weigh 1508g. Which put them at about 20 g lighter than my Ksyrium ES wheels.

stoked
03-20-2008, 06:54 AM
The weight will be 390 to 400g for the 38 clinchers and the 68's will be 500 to 510g. Yes all of there rims use internal nipples.

I called today to find if I was still getting my 38 clinchers this week and was told that they have run into a problem and it would be a month before I get mine. They did make a few sets of rims but they problem with them is the rim bed. They have put a U shaped channel down the middle to make the tire easier to put on and to help with tubeless compatibility. Well that channel has made it really hard to seat the bead of the tire. So they are changing the shape slightly and then they should be done.


Do you have any specs on max psi? I am strongly considering reynolds 46C because of 150psi rating. I've seen some carbon rims that have max psi of 110. I usually run 110psi on my Dura Ace wheels with Conti 4000S but I would do not want to run them at max psi on a carbon wheel.

Ligero
03-20-2008, 07:08 AM
Do you have any specs on max psi? I am strongly considering reynolds 46C because of 150psi rating. I've seen some carbon rims that have max psi of 110. I usually run 110psi on my Dura Ace wheels with Conti 4000S but I would do not want to run them at max psi on a carbon wheel.

I was told 160psi and all of there testing has been done with a Vredestein Fortezza TriComp tire pumped up to the max rated psi.

s2ktaxi
03-20-2008, 07:40 AM
Do you have any specs on max psi? I am strongly considering reynolds 46C because of 150psi rating. I've seen some carbon rims that have max psi of 110. I usually run 110psi on my Dura Ace wheels with Conti 4000S but I would do not want to run them at max psi on a carbon wheel.
According to their website, max psi is 150.
http://www.reynoldscomposites.com/index.php?p_matter=faq

stoked
03-20-2008, 10:16 AM
According to their website, max psi is 150.
http://www.reynoldscomposites.com/index.php?p_matter=faq


I was asking about new EDGE rims ligero was talking about. According to him they will be 160psi max. thanks anyway

mellowman
03-20-2008, 01:37 PM
The weight will be 390 to 400g for the 38 clinchers and the 68's will be 500 to 510g. Yes all of there rims use internal nipples.

I called today to find if I was still getting my 38 clinchers this week and was told that they have run into a problem and it would be a month before I get mine. They did make a few sets of rims but they problem with them is the rim bed. They have put a U shaped channel down the middle to make the tire easier to put on and to help with tubeless compatibility. Well that channel has made it really hard to seat the bead of the tire. So they are changing the shape slightly and then they should be done.

The Edge clinchers are going to be tubeless compatible? so no spoke holes along the tire channel, yet internal nipples...how is that going to work without any access to tighten nipples? any talk of tubeless without getting rid of the spoke holes is just making up an excuse.

Ligero
03-20-2008, 02:55 PM
The Edge clinchers are going to be tubeless compatible? so no spoke holes along the tire channel, yet internal nipples...how is that going to work without any access to tighten nipples? any talk of tubeless without getting rid of the spoke holes is just making up an excuse.

They are not getting rid of the holes because you would not be able to tru the wheel without them. You will be able to run a sealing tape like the Stan's system to seal the holes and still have the bead lock in because of the shape of the tire bed.

DIRT BOY
03-20-2008, 03:02 PM
They are not getting rid of the holes because you would not be able to tru the wheel without them. You will be able to run a sealing tape like the Stan's system to seal the holes and still have the bead lock in because of the shape of the tire bed.Wow, that sounds nice. Now only if more tires were Tubeless!! I have not used tubes on my MTB in 6 yrs? Yes, I have been using UST since day 1.

mellowman
03-20-2008, 03:12 PM
I thought stans notube road conversion kit (rim tape, sealant, valve, hutchinson tires) already works with every clincher rim. I think you would still need the kit with the Edge rim, so not sure what gains Edge is hoping for. Easier pumping up of tires during mounting? Though this still seems an issue with Shimano sl's (i.e. with the tubeless system in general).

steel515
03-20-2008, 03:15 PM
how do these compare to zipp flashpoint rims? weight/strength?

Ligero
03-20-2008, 06:26 PM
I thought stans notube road conversion kit (rim tape, sealant, valve, hutchinson tires) already works with every clincher rim. I think you would still need the kit with the Edge rim, so not sure what gains Edge is hoping for. Easier pumping up of tires during mounting? Though this still seems an issue with Shimano sl's (i.e. with the tubeless system in general).

The Stan's system does work on most all rims but it does not lock the bead like a Stan's or other tubeless compatible rim. Another benefit is the dropped channel of a tubeless type rim makes mounting a regular tire easier because the bead drops down in and you can get the tire on easier.

how do these compare to zipp flashpoint rims? weight/strength?

FP40- 565g
FP60- 615g
Edge 38- 400g
Edge 68- 500g

cogswell23
03-20-2008, 07:35 PM
The Edge clinchers are just now coming out?

I swear Sacha told me the Edge 38s on his roadvagen at NAHBS were clinchers--that was almost 2 months ago now.

Ligero
03-21-2008, 05:14 AM
The Edge clinchers are just now coming out?

I swear Sacha told me the Edge 38s on his roadvagen at NAHBS were clinchers--that was almost 2 months ago now.

They were prototypes, there were Edge clinchers on bikes at NAHS 07. They are making sure everything is right on them before they release them. I would rather have that then be released and then make a revision to them every 2 to 3 months.