View Full Version : Obama and Richardson...


bahueh
03-21-2008, 09:34 AM
currently at a rally in Portland, Oregon....
just outlined his plan for universal health care coverage by the end of his first term...
affordable college tuition....educational standards...

http://www.katu.com/news/content/7315311.html

Richardson for VP it may seem...

Snakebit
03-21-2008, 09:50 AM
currently at a rally in Portland, Oregon....
just outlined his plan for universal health care coverage by the end of his first term...
affordable college tuition....educational standards...

http://www.katu.com/news/content/7315311.html

Richardson for VP it may seem...

I posteed information a few days ago to that effect and was not well received. McCain/Lieberman trumps that ticket anyhow.

bahueh
03-21-2008, 09:51 AM
I posteed information a few days ago to that effect and was not well received. McCain/Lieberman trumps that ticket anyhow.

time will tell. I think you underestimate Richardson's ability to carry the Hispanic vote...
you are aware close to 15% of the U.S. population is now hispanic, right?

http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hispanic/files/Internet_Hispanic_in_US_2006.pdf

Oxtox
03-21-2008, 10:08 AM
I posteed information a few days ago to that effect and was not well received. McCain/Lieberman trumps that ticket anyhow.

Lieberman is what's going to be not well-received.

svend
03-21-2008, 10:36 AM
Lieberman is what's going to be not well-received.

that's bound to bring out the fundicon vote....unless Shrillary is the dem nominee...then it won't matter, they will be out in force

thatsmybush
03-21-2008, 10:40 AM
I posteed information a few days ago to that effect and was not well received. McCain/Lieberman trumps that ticket anyhow.

Yep...because what McCain needs is a big syrupy dose of

Joe Mentum!
You have no idea how much I want you to be right. This whole election cycle has been missing this.

Elfstone
03-21-2008, 11:09 AM
currently at a rally in Portland, Oregon....
just outlined his plan for universal health care coverage by the end of his first term...
affordable college tuition....educational standards...

http://www.katu.com/news/content/7315311.html

Richardson for VP it may seem...

This could work out well in the real world, but unfortunately in the world of faux, spin, misdirection, racism and the last seven years we’ve had. I feel a good portion of this wonderful country of ours is not ready for a half white and half black man, half white and half Hispanic man dream team and would prefer more of stay the course.

I’ll probably get heat from both sides for bring up racism in my post, but from what I’ve seen thus far from the right. The right has made racism and Obama indistinguishable, as they would do to Richardson being Hispanic in the great world of spin. I wish this were not so, but since Obama’s run for the Democratic nominee, the right with the aid of Faux has been trying to find something that would stick to Obama from no hand over the heart during the National Anthem, Flag pin and now he’s a racist black man.

This all seems so petty, to attack his character and race rather then his polices. And it’s bad enough that Obama has to deal with these petty attacks from the right, but he’s getting it from his own party too, from you know who, she who’s name should not be spoken…

Peace :cool:

khill
03-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Hey, Lieberman is already helping McCain remember what the hell he's talking about:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/03/21/mccain_iran/


When John McCain, speaking at a press conference in Amman, Jordan, on Tuesday, accused Iran of harboring and training al-Qaida terrorists, he apologized as soon as Joe Lieberman loudly whispered in his ear that he had uttered a blooper. He withdrew that remark and noted that while the Iranian government is training other "Islamic extremists" across the border, that does not mean they are involved with al-Qaida in Iraq.

Being McCain, he did not have to worry about the cable networks playing the videotape of his mistaken comments on an endless loop. Confused as he may be, his friends in the national press corps are not about to expose him to ridicule. But now his own campaign seems to be withdrawing his self-correction and apology, at least in part -- and insisting that the Iranians indeed do maintain connections with al-Qaida in Iraq.

DrRoebuck
03-21-2008, 12:47 PM
I posteed information a few days ago to that effect and was not well received. McCain/Lieberman trumps that ticket anyhow.
It wasn't information. It was the opinion/speculation of someone writing a letter to the editor. Shirley you see a difference.

svend
03-21-2008, 12:52 PM
It wasn't information. It was the opinion/speculation of someone writing a letter to the editor. Shirley you see a difference.


He gets mad when you call him Shirley...

mohair_chair
03-21-2008, 02:03 PM
Hey, don't give him credit for Lieberman as VP. I came up with that first! Two weeks ago!

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=123913

Jesse D Smith
03-21-2008, 02:08 PM
time will tell. I think you underestimate Richardson's ability to carry the Hispanic vote...
you are aware close to 15% of the U.S. population is now hispanic, right?

http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hispanic/files/Internet_Hispanic_in_US_2006.pdf

I'm not jumping on you, but are we assuming the Hispanics vote on bloc? There aren't a lot of Hispanics in Maine, so I'm not familiar with how things work in Texas, California, etc.
I'd like to think that those Hispanics voting for Obama would support him on his own merits. I wouldn't want anyone to drop their support of Hillary or McCain just because of this. If, however, they were on the fence about all three, I could see how this would sway the opinion.
Does anyone know if there was popular Hispanic support for Alberto Gonzalez at the time of his appointment?

bahueh
03-21-2008, 02:14 PM
I'm not jumping on you, but are we assuming the Hispanics vote on bloc? There aren't a lot of Hispanics in Maine, so I'm not familiar with how things work in Texas, California, etc.
I'd like to think that those Hispanics voting for Obama would support him on his own merits. I wouldn't want anyone to drop their support of Hillary or McCain just because of this. If, however, they were on the fence about all three, I could see how this would sway the opinion.
Does anyone know if there was popular Hispanic support for Alberto Gonzalez at the time of his appointment?

I don't assume that...but I know that Richardson is heavily respected throughout the hispanic community in the SW and beyond..but yes, you are right, not the entire 15% will be voting for Richardson if he gets the nod...his experience will be a key voting factor..
I believe HIllary now is strong among Hispanic voters....Richardson may be Obama's counter to that..

since AG was appointed, I don' t think many people even cared one way or another seeing as they had ZERO say in it..

Obama strongly hinted during his speech however that Richardson would be his guy...

Jesse D Smith
03-21-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't assume that...but I know that Richardson is heavily respected throughout the hispanic community in the SE and beyond..but yes, you are right, not the entire 15% will be voting for Richardson if he gets the nod...his experience will be a key voting factor..
I believe HIllary now is strong among Hispanic voters....Richardson may be Obama's counter to that..

since AG was appointed, I don' t think many people even cared one way or another seeing as they had ZERO say in it..

Obama strongly hinted during his speech however that Richardson would be his guy...

I didn't know much of anything about Richardson before this story. I didn't even recall his name as having been among those who originally ran for this year's nomination. So I read the NYT story
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/us/politics/21cnd-endorse.html?hp
A couple things stood out.
1. Richardson credits "the speech" for finalizing the decision.
2. I had no idea he was a close personal friend of the Clintons. That makes me just a bit uneasy, but I'll keep an open mind. He sounds like decided against Hillary's, "I'll ceaselessly fight anything and everything" policy, choosing Barack's unity policy.
“Barack Obama will be a historic and a great president, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad.”