"(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him... The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans."

After calling Jesus's crucifixion "a public lynching Italian style" executed in "Apartheid Rome," he goes on to claim that white supremicists run the U.S. government:

"The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like , etc.., etc..

bold added.

Hey! He insults Italians, too!!! awesome.

at least he appears to be in favor of home schooling and private schooling vouchers before continuing his crazed tangent.

Does a guy who delt with life in the Old Jim Crow USA prior to the Civil rights in the 60's have the right to be a little pissed at white folks? Now is Oboma a racist? Is that what you are getting at? And by the way were Romans from Italy?

twinkles

source?

Does a guy who delt with life in the Old Jim Crow USA prior to the Civil rights in the 60's have the right to be a little pissed at white folks? Now is Oboma a racist? Is that what you are getting at? And by the way were Romans from Italy?

twinkles

Of course not, Rome is in France, I think. They make bicycles there too.

If you lie down with dogs.............

source?
I'm not being glib. All you need to do is google "garlic noses".

Of course not, Rome is in France, I think. They make bicycles there too.

Not true, all bicycles are now built in china and assembled at the north pole for christmas.

"(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him... The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans."

After calling Jesus's crucifixion "a public lynching Italian style" executed in "Apartheid Rome," he goes on to claim that white supremicists run the U.S. government:

"The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like , etc.., etc..

bold added.

Hey! He insults Italians, too!!! awesome.

at least he appears to be in favor of home schooling and private schooling vouchers before continuing his crazed tangent.


that's a great mix of racism and ignorance.
is this the 1st or the 2nd sermon? cause Wright only preached 2x during all theses yrs against "whites" according to Obama supporters.

Does a guy who delt with life in the Old Jim Crow USA prior to the Civil rights in the 60's have the right to be a little pissed at white folks? Now is Oboma a racist? Is that what you are getting at? And by the way were Romans from Italy?

twinkles

I don't know if it makes Obama a racist, per se. But it's a pretty strong endorsement for someone to have had a racist spiritual advisor for 20 yrs. The influence alone is more than disturbing.

This speaks directly to electability. Is this someone who America really wants to have as the most powerful person in the free world?

Obama claims he has better judgment. Does keeping Wright as his "spiritual leader" confirm Obama has better judgment?

It's only gonna get worse in the general.

I'm not being glib. All you need to do is google "garlic noses".

You posted it, why not provide the link right away? What is your reason for posting such quotes without a source for them? Well, let's see, when I do google those words I see one of the first page hits is from stormfront. Is that where you read it?

I don't know if it makes Obama a racist, per se. But it's a pretty strong endorsement for someone to have had a racist spiritual advisor for 20 yrs. The influence alone is more than disturbing.

This speaks directly to electability. Is this someone who America really wants to have as the most powerful person in the free world?

Obama claims he has better judgment. Does keeping Wright as his "spiritual leader" confirm Obama has better judgment?

It's only gonna get worse in the general.

I don't know if it makes Hillary a liar, per se. But its a pretty strong endorsement for someone to have made countless false statements over the years. Their preponderance is more than disturbing.

This speaks directly to electability. Is this someone who America really wants to have as the most powerful person in the free world?

Hillary claims she has better judgement. Does lying about her past confirm Hillary has better judgment?

It's only gonnna get worse in the general.

I don't know if it makes Hillary a liar, per se. But its a pretty strong endorsement for someone to have made countless false statements over the years. Their preponderance is more than disturbing.

This speaks directly to electability. Is this someone who America really wants to have as the most powerful person in the free world?

Hillary claims she has better judgement. Does lying about her past confirm Hillary has better judgment?

It's only gonnna get worse in the general.


The general election will be McCain versus the large flash of light which resulted from Hillary (matter) and Obama (anti-matter) whirling around each other until they collided and were annihilated.

The general election will be McCain versus the large flash of light which resulted from Hillary (matter) and Obama (anti-matter) whirling around each other until they collided and were annihilated.

Yep...the dems are about to hit a very tall, very thick and very insurmountable wall at "ludicrous speed."

an interesting point of debate

why does rome-the italians get a hall pass for the crucifixion?

we have anti-semitism which goes back partially to "the jews killed jesus"

we see as the stories of the NT get further away from the scene chronologically the tone towards Jews (reflected in the attitude towards Judas) gets nastier the further away you get. Judas is neither demonized nor given stereotypical jewish traits in Mark, Matthew and Luke. as the faith was being pushed to the gentiles and away from its Jewish origins,we see the tone change. So the Romanification of the Bible is, in a way, 'White Man' rewriting history/the rules to reflect himself. Afterall the Romans couldn't adopt the faith of one of their 'conquered' states. It would reflect that Rome was some how morally inferior to the Jews whom they ruled over.

soagain, why no anti-romanism in the world? After all THEY killed our lord and savior.

this may be part of the point the Reverendis not so eloquently trying to make.

You posted it, why not provide the link right away? What is your reason for posting such quotes without a source for them? Well, let's see, when I do google those words I see one of the first page hits is from stormfront. Is that where you read it?
oh, come on. don't gimme that "poo poo". You have asked others to do their own research before....geez:rolleyes:

interesting take on obama's defense speech by Charles K. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2008/03/21/obamas_speech_leaves_a_few_question_marks



http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200803/POL20080326a.html

hope this helps.

Good post, I won't vote for this fellow Wright for any office. Or that fellow Hagee that endorsed McCain. Or any of the folks with the Fellowship or whatever that rightwing religious group that Hillary is part of is called.

oh, come on. don't gimme that "poo poo". You have asked others to do their own research before....geez:rolleyes:

Never when I am pasting the words from a website.

My wife's had a close racist aunt her whole life and her father, while not a racist, hardly supports
black causes and is definitely opposed to many civil rights efforts. How did my wife turn out to be the antithesis of her aunt and father? How could that have happened?

If Obama is a racist, who is he racist against ? White folk like his mama, or black folk like his daddy? Look at the crazy sh*t that right wing pastors say like that fat F*ck Haigy who wants to go to war with iran to fulfill the prophicies. And who which the pro life adulterer Mccain courted to get his backing.

I find it interesting right wingers look at the world subjectively. I can understand some hate coming from the black folk in the usa who've been trested like crap for a long time. But there is alot more hate coming from right wing evangelical megachurches than I here from black churches. Don't you think that our meddling in the middle east is what led to 9/11? thanks

twinkles

Are you speaking about W and Scooter? Or Bush and Ken Lay? Or Bush with Jack Abramhoff? I hope yiou're judging everybody evenly! thanks

twinkles

Obama is not a racist but he does have poor judgement and this is just one example. Obama has known this turd for 20 years and Wright has been Obama's spiritual adviser for almost as long. To dismiss Wright's statements by saying the he doesn't agree with Wright is really disingenuous. These are not just occasional slips that Wright makes every few years. These are statements that are consistent and show a pattern of disrespect and distrust for the American way of life.

Obama has a lot of explaining to do. Will Wright be a spiritual adviser in an Obama administration? I think that the answer is yes. This issue is not going to go away. Obama will continue to be pressed to explain his friendship with such a trashy man from here until he eventually gets defeated in November if he gets that far. This issue with Wright is really quite telling about the character of Obama. If anything, it will intensify until Obama concedes.

This sounds very familiar. Very familiar indeed. Like an old friend in fact.

Obama is not a racist but he does have poor judgement and this is just one example. Obama has known this turd for 20 years and Wright has been Obama's spiritual adviser for almost as long. To dismiss Wright's statements by saying the he doesn't agree with Wright is really disingenuous. These are not just occasional slips that Wright makes every few years. These are statements that are consistent and show a pattern of disrespect and distrust for the American way of life.

Obama has a lot of explaining to do. Will Wright be a spiritual adviser in an Obama administration? I think that the answer is yes. This issue is not going to go away. Obama will continue to be pressed to explain his friendship with such a trashy man from here until he eventually gets defeated in November if he gets that far. This issue with Wright is really quite telling about the character of Obama. If anything, it will intensify until Obama concedes.


Obviously it's a gigantic issue, as discussed in the article here: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=126030




joe

I think your point is neither H nor O have good judgement and can be trusted as being the leader of the free world. I concur! :)

I believe he was eulogizing Asa Hilliard. That's some way to send a friend off to the great unknown, huh?

Ah! I see. Wright was using reverse psychology on the whole congregation. :)

Obama is not a racist but he does have poor judgement and this is just one example. Obama has known this turd for 20 years and Wright has been Obama's spiritual adviser for almost as long. To dismiss Wright's statements by saying the he doesn't agree with Wright is really disingenuous. These are not just occasional slips that Wright makes every few years. These are statements that are consistent and show a pattern of disrespect and distrust for the American way of life.

Obama has a lot of explaining to do. Will Wright be a spiritual adviser in an Obama administration? I think that the answer is yes. This issue is not going to go away. Obama will continue to be pressed to explain his friendship with such a trashy man from here until he eventually gets defeated in November if he gets that far. This issue with Wright is really quite telling about the character of Obama. If anything, it will intensify until Obama concedes.


CY, I have to agree with everything you've said. If Obama had thrown Wright under the bus like he did to his granny, then I'd have nothing to say.

There's no question Obama is a smart man, but I can't help but wonder why he decided to continue his relationship with Wright? Obviously, his relationship with Wright is closer and more important to him than risking losing the presidency. That alone speaks volumes. :nonod:

His whole "I opposed the Iraq war from the start gives me better judgment" is a weak house of cards at best. He had nothing to risk. Still not buying the better judgment thang.

Like it or not, Obama's actions now, coupled with his 20 yr attendance at the church, are endorsements of Wright's comments.

Obama is not a racist but he does have poor judgement and this is just one example.

The guy's a moron. He worries that unpaid parking tickets from his past may come back to hurt his election bid and fails to see his 20 year attendance of a church with a racist standing at the pulpit might be detrimental to his electibility? Heck Opra had better sense than he. She left the congregation when she saw Obama was going to be headlines. She knew he would draw a lot of attention to the church and would be judged on that fact. She didn't want to be seen in the same light. She is obviously much smarter than he. She also had a lot to lose. Her bread is buttered really well by fat, white middle class women who wouldn't receive the reverend's words too well.

His whole "I opposed the Iraq war from the start gives me better judgment" is a weak house of cards at best. He had nothing to risk. Still not buying the better judgment thang.


Obviously... I mean, had this whole war thing turned out wonderfully he'd have looked like a complete ass and would have never had a chance at president.





joe

No, Steam, it just means people have the capability of thinking independently. Something you seem to have trouble comprehending or doing.

No, Steam, it just means people have the capability of thinking independently. Something you seem to have trouble comprehending or doing.

i don't know what that means as well. independent of what? ideology? identity? eventual threats to their well being?
"thinking independently" may as well be another tall horse to stand on...
we should think dependending on everything and everybody that surrounds us cause in fact in we do.

the guy is a politician. from the democrat party. how independent that can be?

Yeah I'm sure these guys only attend the meeting for the refreshments too.

http://www.againstnazi.com/capt-pack10409260205-neo_nazi_rally_pack104.jpg

i don't know what that means as well. independent of what? ideology? identity? eventual threats to their well being?
"thinking independently" may as well be another tall horse to stand on...
we should think dependending on everything and everybody that surrounds us cause in fact in we do.

the guy is a politician. from the democrat party. how independent that can be?
As independent as any other free spirit. Do you agree with all policies in Brazil? If not then you are exercising independent thinking. If you do then maybe you have a point.

As independent as any other free spirit. Do you agree with all policies in Brazil? If not then you are exercising independent thinking. If you do then maybe you have a point.

i am like everybody else. maybe slightly dumber.

I like his fingernails. Nice try but no cigar.

Specious argument. It's far easier to get up, walk out and never return to a place, such as the Trinity Church, so as not to be exposed to the hateful speech coming from that bigots mouth, than it is to leave a country when you don't agree with some policy. Just ask Alec Baldwin.

Specious argument. It's far easier to get up, walk out and never return to a place, such as the Trinity Church, so as not to be exposed to the hateful speech coming from that bigots mouth, than it is to leave a country when you don't agree with some policy. Just ask Alec Baldwin.

Here is what we actually know.......

2 or 3 of Wrights sermons had inflammatory remarks in them.

That is it.

We don't know if they happened twice or in every one of his sermons (other than other members of the church indicate they were very rare).......we also don't know if Obama was at any of these inflammatory sermons to walk out of.

So your statement that implies that 1.) Everything that came out of his mouth was hateful speech & 2.) Obama was at a service where hateful speech occured, are both based on pure and unmitigated conjecture.

If Wright is the worst you can come up with to indict Obama about, that says volumes to me about him.

I guess if this is the only drum you have to beat, you have to beat it.

Len

Len, let me ask you, what was your take on the Imus situation?

Len, let me ask you, what was your take on the Imus situation?

I think & thought Imus was an a$$

I think that he made his career out of making statements that were near or over the line.

I thought the statement was tasteless and lacking in any class at all.

I think that someone pushed back.

I thought it was much todo about nothing.....and was blown out of proportion by both the players and particularly their coach.

I think that he played with fire and got burnt.

In the wright situation, Unlike the Imus situation, the person paying the price is one step removed from the person that made the statements.

I don't see the 2 situations as even remotely similar....other than they were both public. Now if a close friend of Imus made the statements Imus made publicially and Imus got fired, I'd think that were as unfair as the Wright situation is.

Len

I think & thought Imus was an a$$

I think that he made his career out of making statements that were near or over the line.

I thought the statement was tasteless and lacking in any class at all.

I think that someone pushed back.

I thought it was much todo about nothing.....and was blown out of proportion by both the players and particularly their coach.

I think that he played with fire and got burnt.

In the wright situation, Unlike the Imus situation, the person paying the price is one step removed from the person that made the statements.

I don't see the 2 situations as even remotely similar....other than they were both public. Now if a close friend of Imus made the statements Imus made publicially and Imus got fired, I'd think that were as unfair as the Wright situation is.

Len

I agree with you on Imus, I wouldn't care if he never got on the air again. Wright and Obama are not the same thing. they have a long term relationship with one being an influence on the other. I would hesitate to call Wright a bigot but his speech was hateful. I don't believe it was out of charcter for him as the defensive posts state and I think Obama shares some of his anger. How it would effect his leadership I'm not all that sure. It isn't going away though and there is no way for him to really distance himself from Wright and the kind of influence he may have been. People will either decide it doesn't matter or it will be a deal killer for them.

Here is what we actually know.......

2 or 3 of Wrights sermons had inflammatory remarks in them.

That is it.

We don't know if they happened twice or in every one of his sermons (other than other members of the church indicate they were very rare).......we also don't know if Obama was at any of these inflammatory sermons to walk out of.

So your statement that implies that 1.) Everything that came out of his mouth was hateful speech & 2.) Obama was at a service where hateful speech occured, are both based on pure and unmitigated conjecture.

If Wright is the worst you can come up with to indict Obama about, that says volumes to me about him.

I guess if this is the only drum you have to beat, you have to beat it.

Len

let me understand your position on this:
1- since there are no records of other similar speeches of Wright it's plausible to believe he never said anything else along those lines. his speeches are usually about something else.

2- since there were 3 or 4 speeches only in 30yrs it's irrelevant. maybe if there were 20 or 30 speeches meaning 1 speech per year... no, that's irrelevant as well. it would only be relevant when the number reached , say... 50 speeches?

3- Obama didn't know. now that's the hardest to fly. see... he is running for president. he should be one of those guys who KNOW. if he is distracted that much maybe he should do something else: build miniature airplanes... write poetry.... things that go along well w/ distracted people.

I agree with you on Imus, I wouldn't care if he never got on the air again. Wright and Obama are not the same thing. they have a long term relationship with one being an influence on the other. I would hesitate to call Wright a bigot but his speech was hateful. I don't believe it was out of charcter for him as the defensive posts state and I think Obama shares some of his anger. How it would effect his leadership I'm not all that sure. It isn't going away though and there is no way for him to really distance himself from Wright and the kind of influence he may have been. People will either decide it doesn't matter or it will be a deal killer for them.

I agree. Although, on the one hand, I don't know how you could be a black in this country and not have some anger.

I think that people are implying that either Obama shares these beliefs and wrights intensity about them (which every action he has taken in his career says otherwise) or that Obama is somehow unable to make his own moral decisions and is under Wright's influence.

While I think that both of these assumptions are absurd I also think that there is a percentage of the population that will be afraid of them and vote accordingly. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact of life. What we don't know is how large a % that is. I have more faith in the average voter than some, but time will tell.

It's a shame, but it will be used as a wedge issue........just like the next time McCain either flip flops or shoots himself with one of his own comments.:D

Politics is a contact sport.

Now I have to duck, I heard there might be snipers around. :mad2:

Len

let me understand your position on this:
1- since there are no records of other similar speeches of Wright it's plausible to believe he never said anything else along those lines. his speeches are usually about something else.

2- since there were 3 or 4 speeches only in 30yrs it's irrelevant. maybe if there were 20 or 30 speeches meaning 1 speech per year... no, that's irrelevant as well. it would only be relevant when the number reached , say... 50 speeches?

3- Obama didn't know. now that's the hardest to fly. see... he is running for president. he should be one of those guys who KNOW. if he is distracted that much maybe he should do something else: build miniature airplanes... write poetry.... things that go along well w/ distracted people.

read my post.........any conversation that implies that it is more than the 2 or 3 documented tapes, should also admit that their opinion is based on pure conjecture.....and that they could be right, and they could be wrong.

As to "He should have known!" That doesn't even deserve comment.......

Len

read my post.........any conversation that implies that it is more than the 2 or 3 documented tapes, should also admit that their opinion is based on pure conjecture.....and that they could be right, and they could be wrong.

As to "He should have known!" That doesn't even deserve comment.......

Len

Here is some conjecture. When you watch the videos of the 2-3 tapes, look at the reaction of the congregation to his sermon. There is no outrage, just alot of "amens" and raising of hands. One member of his congregation steps out to pat him on the back. If I was to read anything into that, I would say it happened more than 2-3 times. But that's just conjecture.

read my post.........any conversation that implies that it is more than the 2 or 3 documented tapes, should also admit that their opinion is based on pure conjecture.....and that they could be right, and they could be wrong.

As to "He should have known!" That doesn't even deserve comment.......

Len

of course he knew.
there is a small rag published by the congregation w/ compliments to Farrakhan, a big name politician w/a lot of agressiveness towards whites, jewish etc... Oma knew about this eulogy. O is a politician w/an illustrous career. he is contacted by people. he is aware.
it insults my inteligence when anyone says maybe he didn't know. it probably insults the electorate's inteligence as well.


wright's stance on racism, america and whites is not reduced to 3 speeches only. it's his ideology. his belief.th proximity w/ wright may or not give O a bad bias towards american society. it may be one of those things w/ no depth at all... but O knew all along.

of course he knew.
there is a small rag published by the congregation w/ compliments to Farrakhan, a big name politician w/a lot of agressiveness towards whites, jewish etc... Oma knew about this eulogy. O is a politician w/an illustrous career. he is contacted by people. he is aware.
it insults my inteligence when anyone says maybe he didn't know. it probably insults the electorate's inteligence as well.


wright's stance on racism, america and whites is not reduced to 3 speeches only. it's his ideology. his belief.th proximity w/ wright may or not give O a bad bias towards american society. it may be one of those things w/ no depth at all... but O knew all along.

In your opinion.

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Len

No, Steam, it just means people have the capability of thinking independently. Something you seem to have trouble comprehending or doing.

You can't choose your family. You can choose your church. For Obama to claim that-

A) He's been a regular attendee of that church for 20 years

and

B) He had no idea Wright was a bigot

-go beyond even normal political lies. I hate to say it, but I think I'd rather see Hillary president. :yikes:

In your opinion.

Len

here is another conjecture: the Obama supporters on this are either playing dumb or dumb indeed. dumber than the so called dumb majority who voted Bush.

For some reason, I always found it fake that politicians would attend church at all. I think the two do not go hand in hand easily.

It seems obvious to me that Obama may share some of the same views as his pastor. Even so, he is the best candidate running for president at this time. To even consider McCain is absurd. Hillary is exposing her true self more and more and it is getting ugly, far more ugly than a black man who has some justifyable resentment towards white people.

here is another conjecture: the Obama supporters on this are either playing dumb or dumb indeed. dumber than the so called dumb majority who voted Bush.
dumb majority who voted Bush, and who are linking thus far ,THREE, videos of racially charged speech with twenty years of the same. Have you been to the UTC? or even the home page. have a look around before following the ditto heads down the simpleton's path of blanket generalisation.

k I've made up my mind. Jeremiah Wright's not gonna get my vote for President!!! :mad:

Here is some conjecture. When you watch the videos of the 2-3 tapes, look at the reaction of the congregation to his sermon. There is no outrage, just alot of "amens" and raising of hands. One member of his congregation steps out to pat him on the back. If I was to read anything into that, I would say it happened more than 2-3 times. But that's just conjecture.
Applause and a at on the back means a lot in your eyes. So by that logic when McCain sings BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN and gets laughs and cheers he has been singing that song a lot more than once? That would make him a warmonger, oh and all the senators that served with him in the senate all those days while the house was in session by association are also warmongers. Extreme case but the logic is the same. Conjecture is just supposition and not an intelligent benchmark to make decisions on.

I would say it is reasonable to suggest that Barack shares some percentage of belief with the ideas of his pastor. I think it is also reasonable to think that he has some resentment towards white people because he is part black and may have been exposed to racism from whites.

So...when Barack becomes president, what does he do with this resentment? Is he going to start enslaving white people? Is he going to appoint a "chocolate" cabinet? What exactly can he do to us good white people? What are you guys afraid of? Really.

Get over it. Especially those of you who complain about the culture of political correctness.

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
~ Barack H. Obama

"He didn't just cross the line," Obama said. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women -- who I hope will be athletes -- that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It's one that I'm not interested in supporting."

~ B. Hussein Obama

For some reason, I always found it fake that politicians would attend church at all.

I always laughed at the photo ops of Clinton leaving church with the Bible in hand.

To even consider McCain is absurd.

He's starting to look like the prize pup to me. The reason it would be nice to have Clinton in there is that it sets up Jeb Bush, and possibly Chelsea after that. It would drive this historians crazy- Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton- and make it easier for immigrants to memorize the presidents :D

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
~ Barack H. Obama

"He didn't just cross the line," Obama said. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women -- who I hope will be athletes -- that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It's one that I'm not interested in supporting."

~ B. Hussein Obama

So, Obama's not only a liar, he's a hypocrite? I guess he has a preference for which type of racially intolerant comments he likes and dislikes?

So, if it's about "whitey," A-ok! I'll come to your weekly sermons, and you can come share dinner with me and my family. :thumbsup:

Not so much when it's about the Sistas... :cryin:

*sigh*. The general public will have the opportunity to make what they want of it with their vote.

*sigh*. The general public will have the opportunity to make what they want of it with their vote.

That's exactly my point. The people haven't been told the truth about this man. How long have they known about the Wright issue, yet it took the "Gawd Damn America" video to be released for the truth to come out.

Everytime I turn on the tube there's BO giving a speech somewhere, and then if the media shows Hillary at all, it's her lookin all witch-like somewhere. Talk about a media bias..

The media think they are playing AA with the office of the president, but they are actually doing a disservice to the Dem party and the nation. Just wait until the general. The Republican spin machine is gonna have a field day for everything the media isn't reporting about BO.

That's exactly my point. The people haven't been told the truth about this man. How long have they known about the Wright issue, yet it took the "Gawd Damn America" video to be released for the truth to come out.

Everytime I turn on the tube there's BO giving a speech somewhere, and then if the media shows Hillary at all, it's her lookin all witch-like somewhere. Talk about a media bias..

The media think they are playing AA with the office of the president, but they are actually doing a disservice to the Dem party and the nation. Just wait until the general. The Republican spin machine is gonna have a field day for everything the media isn't reporting about BO.

I don't know. The media have proven quite effective at getting candidates elected- both Democratic and Republican. Remember what they did to Dukakis? To some extent they try to get elected not the most liberal candidate, even if that's where their sympathies lay, but the one whom they perceive as the most dynamic- the one who will cause the most change because that gives them something to make the careers on. I think that's why they're gravitating towards Obama. Did you notice how not one major media outlet (that I saw anyway) called him out after Wright's comments were released? No- he didn't refuse to disassociate himself with a horribly bitter and hateful racist by shoveling BS- he made a powerful speech of racial reconciliation. Huh? Is that what that was? It was as if David Duke called for reconciliation while refusing to quit the Klan, and nobody noticed it- well, they did. It was obvious, but they still believe they can tell people what to think, and all too often they are right.

Talk about a media bias

I love it :)

Just wait until the general. The Republican spin machine is gonna have a field day for everything the media isn't reporting about BO.

Did you just say Obama will face the Republican's in the general? Are you abandoning Hillary? Don't you think you're doing a disservice to her campaign by admitting defeat so soon?

Did you just say Obama will face the Republican's in the general? Are you abandoning Hillary? Don't you think you're doing a disservice to her campaign by admitting defeat so soon?

It's a warning about what will happen due to Obama getting a pass by the media. Just like GWB was given a pass by the media in 2000.

Politics is a contact sport.Len

I think this is a great statement.

And we all know how much Americans love their contact sport.

Personally, I think this is all brilliant.

Obama has a problem in some areas; as a friend of mine told me, he comes off as "not black enough", or as he put it "suffers from Bryant Gumble syndrome." As a black man, he said that what he thinks is going on is that Obama's allowing this to permeate just enough on the top so that it looks better towards the angry black masses that still don't trust white society, as many have alluded to. There is still a LOT of anger out there and if you don't buy that, you are blinded.

Conversely, with him coming out against the statements of the Rev., he gives the look that he does not tolerate that sort of ideology. So in this case, the white pop. like their "for change, upstanding, good looking candidate" while the black pop. hear these comments, associate it with Obama, and give him MORE credibility.

Essentially, he is playing both groups, and the US media laps it up like a starved kitten. The US is not made up of simply conservative and liberals. (The mass media represents the two furthest viewpoints of ideology, from CNN to Fox News, where they have strong opinions on both side) Rather, the US is a collection of individuals from vastly different viewpoints and cultures that make up a broad-based, "gray-area" of political, moral, and social ideology. Obama is simply playing to this.

When you get down to it, the man who presents himself as the least political of the three remaining politicians is the best politician of them all. He is reachin', preachin', and teachin' for the masses, something he will need to win in October.

Just my .02.