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View Full Version : A Picture Worth 596 Billion Words rocco 03-27-2008, 06:27 AM 12345 jupiterrn 03-27-2008, 06:50 AM Again, who controls the credit card? danl1 03-27-2008, 07:02 AM Now, let's overlay congressional control... Same shape, different conclusion. Neither party gets a pass on this one. We'll only get ahead of it when we stop letting them sucker us into the 'it's them, not me' blame game, and hold each and every legislator individually responsible for the whole stinkin' swamp that city is built on. Obviously, we're not there yet. ElvisMerckx 03-27-2008, 07:04 AM Hmmm? Would the chart support the same conclusions if national debt were weighed against majority control of congress? jupiterrn 03-27-2008, 07:14 AM Congress Controlled by who/whom 1974 Senate Dem House Dem 1975 Senate Dem House Dem 1977 Senate Dem House Dem 1979 Senate Dem House Dem 1981 Senate Rep House Dem 1983 Senate Rep House Dem 1985 Senate Rep House Dem 1987 Senate Dem House Dem 1989 Senate Dem House Dem 1991 Senate Dem House Dem 1993 Senate Dem House Dem 1995 Senate Rep House Rep 1997 Senate Rep House Rep 1999 Senate Rep House Rep 2001 Senate Dem House Rep 2003 Senate Rep House Rep 2005 Senate Rep House Rep 2007 Senate Dem House Dem Sorry no good with graphs. atpjunkie 03-27-2008, 07:52 AM houses were split mostthe time duringClinton,houses were split duringBush 2, oh he had both houses until last year and folks you know A PRESINDENT CAN VETO SPENDING BILLS. he holdsthe finalsay, unless overturned kiwisimon 03-27-2008, 08:14 AM Congress Controlled by who/whom Sorry no good with graphs. doesn't prove much unless congress had a veto proof majority, does it magicant 03-27-2008, 08:21 AM It also doesn't say much about which administration is getting us into commitments that have longer reaching impacts (insert example here - *coff, coff* Iraq *coff*). The trends are the telling bits of information. Regardless of who it is, the next President will be stuck with figuring out an awful lot of things. atpjunkie 03-27-2008, 08:28 AM doesn't prove much unless congress had a veto proof majority, does it the only 2 years wherethe debt drops under HW Bush is when the Demshave both houses. '91 and '92 I guess the Cons should have examined this for veracity before they started trying to point their dirty little fingers at the Dems really not good to bring up a point of debate that aids the opposing party's POV rufus 03-27-2008, 09:24 AM and it's even worse, since the costs of the Iraq war have been off the books so far. jupiterrn 03-27-2008, 09:49 AM the only 2 years wherethe debt drops under HW Bush is when the Demshave both houses. '91 and '92 I guess the Cons should have examined this for veracity before they started trying to point their dirty little fingers at the Dems really not good to bring up a point of debate that aids the opposing party's POV I'll give you that but if you look though the debt drops considerably during the Clinton Admin when Repub have control. oops Crap, during the Reagan and Bush 1 admin when the debt went up with the Dems controlling the purse string there. svend 03-27-2008, 09:50 AM and it's even worse, since the costs of the Iraq war have been off the books so far. what is it with Cons and their penchant for off book financials....Enron et al ... Bear Stearns et al.... hmmm, kinda funny how the cons don't like transparency...makes one wonder why danl1 03-27-2008, 10:25 AM It also doesn't say much about which administration is getting us into commitments that have longer reaching impacts (insert example here - *coff, coff* Iraq *coff*). The trends are the telling bits of information. Regardless of who it is, the next President will be stuck with figuring out an awful lot of things. Like *coff, coff* social security *coff* medicare *coff* medicade *coff* welfare *coff* farm subsidies *coff* corporate lovefests *coff* *hack* *puke*. Hell, this war is a complete failure as far as pissing away money goes. Hate the war all you want. I sure do. There's no way to justify it or minimize it's negative impact to our country. But if it's all you are angry about, you're just not paying attention. PdxMark 03-27-2008, 11:26 AM What the graph shows is that the Repub penchant for cutting taxes without corresponding cuts in spending (or with dramatic increases in spending) is fiscally idiotic. Fine, push for and pass tax cuts, but also have the cajones to cut programs by the same amount. Cutting taxes without cutting spending is a shameless political circus. Creakyknees 03-27-2008, 01:31 PM ...shameless political circus. Now you're getting close to the real truth... bread and circuses... |