Thief! Thief! I am outraged and appalled. I think he needs to denounce and detest (or whatever) himself from this speech!


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/27/mccain-plagiarism/






joe

Thief! Thief! I am outraged and appalled. I think he needs to denounce and detest (or whatever) himself from this speech!


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/27/mccain-plagiarism/
joe

"...it is wretched beyond all description. When nations seek to resolve their differences by force of arms, a million tragedies ensue"

"Not the valor with which it is fought nor the nobility of the cause it serves, can glorify war."

IMO, the truth of the words outweigh any dispute over originality.McCain or anyone else can plagerized the entire thing, word for word, as long as the actions reflect the words.

"...it is wretched beyond all description. When nations seek to resolve their differences by force of arms, a million tragedies ensue"

"Not the valor with which it is fought nor the nobility of the cause it serves, can glorify war."

IMO, the truth of the words outweigh any dispute over originality.McCain or anyone else can plagerized the entire thing, word for word, as long as the actions reflect the words.


Maybe I needed a :rolleyes: face in my post. I was using false outrage there. Just looking to those who attacked Obama for plagiarizing will attack McCain for plagiarizing.






joe

Maybe I needed a :rolleyes: face in my post. I was using false outrage there. Just looking to those who attacked Obama for plagiarizing will attack McCain for plagiarizing.
joe

Nothing in my post was intended to counter your post. I clicked on your link and was more surprised at the subject matter than the controversy itself. If McCain really believes what was said, and intended to act on it, I'd be glad. But he seems to want to be the war hero candidate and then become the war president. Seems to me, if he wants to avoid the destruction and senselessness of war, he'd start by getting the players straight.

Bam!

UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.




joe

Thief! Thief! I am outraged and appalled. I think he needs to denounce and detest (or whatever) himself from this speech!


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/27/mccain-plagiarism/






joe


Better click your link again...


UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.

Better click your link again...


UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.


I totally beat you to that one.




joe

So he plagiarized a guy that plagiarized himself. That's awesome to the max.

Bam!






joe


Dang! You beat me to it.

So he plagiarized a guy that plagiarized himself. That's awesome to the max.


No, McCain plagiarized the guy who plagiarized McCain. Get it right :rolleyes: :D








joe

I totally beat you to that one.




joe


Twice! :wink5:

Is it wrong to plagiarize yourself? Even if you've been looking at podium girls?

Bam!
ROFL!

(I'm referring to your source of the quote.)

I will just add that it's highly commendable how quickly they printed the correction and the explanation.

I will just add that it's highly commendable how quickly they printed the correction and the explanation.


That's what I was thinking as well.



joe

Yup. They're better at it than the NY Times, that's for sure.

Yup. They're better at it than the NY Times, that's for sure.


Serious... how long did it take Bill Kristol to correct himself? :)




joe

Serious... how long did it take Bill Kristol to correct himself? :)

joe

was when Bill Kristol made some quip to JohnStewart about how people see John Stewart and Stewart replied "and it could be said that people see you as the guy
that came up with this whole war"