View Full Version : Explain gay-lesbian day/week to me
Gargamel 04-23-2008, 10:11 AM The San Diego Padres have gay day. Disney World has gay/lesbian week.
Is there some reason that a homosexual can't buy a ticket and wait in line for Pirates of the Caribbean with the rest of us?
What special enhanced experience do they require?
Please no jokes about the big foam finger and/or hot dogs at the ballgame.
STARNUT 04-23-2008, 10:19 AM every other day of the year is white-middle-class-christian-day.
Starnut
Dwayne Barry 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM Is there some reason that a homosexual can't buy a ticket and wait in line for Pirates of the Caribbean with the rest of us?
Why do you think it has anything to do with "homosexual can't...rest of us"?
I assume it is simply a promotional tool to drum up business much like a father/son day.
Gargamel 04-23-2008, 10:25 AM Knew that would be the first response.
But no -every other day is not white, middle-class Christian day. You buy your ticket, then you get what you paid for. You will be surrounded by lots of different types of people. color, nationality, etc.
Fredke 04-23-2008, 10:30 AM First you want us to explain the eye (http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?p=1516699#poststop) and the Cambrian explosion and human consciousness. Then you wanted us to explain sexual abstinence (http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?p=170706#poststop). Now you want us to explain homosexuality.
I'd recommend Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page).
svend 04-23-2008, 10:32 AM Knew that would be the first response.
But no -every other day is not white, middle-class Christian day. You buy your ticket, then you get what you paid for. You will be surrounded by lots of different types of people. color, nationality, etc.
It's called marketing to a demographic that has a lot of disposable income...what's to understand?
Dwayne Barry 04-23-2008, 10:32 AM Knew that would be the first response.
But no -every other day is not white, middle-class Christian day. You buy your ticket, then you get what you paid for. You will be surrounded by lots of different types of people. color, nationality, etc.
I guess I don't understand. These are promotional events by the business, not exclusivity days/weeks demanded by the patrons, no?
I thought everday was gay day.
Fredke 04-23-2008, 10:42 AM I thought everday was gay day.Hush, dear. Don't let the breeders learn about our evil conspiracy. I'm as trite and as gay as a daisy in May,
A cliché comin' true!
I'm bromidic and bright
As a moon-happy night
Pourin' light on the dew!
JoeDaddio 04-23-2008, 10:49 AM It's called marketing to a demographic that has a lot of disposable income...what's to understand?
Yeah... as I understand it all them bitter gun toatin god fearers don't have tons of money to spend, or I'm sure they'd be able to get their own day at Disneyland as well.
joe
rocco 04-23-2008, 10:53 AM The San Diego Padres have gay day. Disney World has gay/lesbian week.
Is there some reason that a homosexual can't buy a ticket and wait in line for Pirates of the Caribbean with the rest of us?
What special enhanced experience do they require?
Please no jokes about the big foam finger and/or hot dogs at the ballgame.
You're not so much into having fun, are you? :)
SilasCL 04-23-2008, 10:54 AM You seem to think that gay people get in free on those days, or get some kind of special attention. I think you're mistaken.
buck-50 04-23-2008, 11:03 AM The San Diego Padres have gay day. Disney World has gay/lesbian week.
Is there some reason that a homosexual can't buy a ticket and wait in line for Pirates of the Caribbean with the rest of us?
What special enhanced experience do they require?
Please no jokes about the big foam finger and/or hot dogs at the ballgame.
Figure it this way- if you don't like people with the gay, it's a warning that on these specific "gay" days, there will be homosexuals openly being homosexual at the ball game/disney world. They will be holding hands. They may even kiss.
SO, if you don't want to expose your children to such things, or you think that they might catch the gay from seeing two guys holding hands, you know that you shouldn't go on that day, preserving your worldview for a few precious days longer.
Next, figuring that on the average gay couples have more disposable income than straight people, they're an attractive demographic, and smart businesses cater to attractive demographics.
bricoleur 04-23-2008, 11:42 AM The San Diego Padres have gay day. Disney World has gay/lesbian week.
Is there some reason that a homosexual can't buy a ticket and wait in line for Pirates of the Caribbean with the rest of us?
What special enhanced experience do they require?
Please no jokes about the big foam finger and/or hot dogs at the ballgame.
don't worry, bro. he is with you always (http://members.aol.com/JesusImages/)
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rocco 04-23-2008, 11:47 AM You seem to think that gay people get in free on those days, or get some kind of special attention. I think you're mistaken.
You mean that they don't get free hits of Ketamine and they don't have top and bottom matching making events?
Snakebit 04-23-2008, 12:05 PM every other day of the year is white-middle-class-christian-day.
Starnut
Are there no white middle class gay/lesbians?
Snakebit 04-23-2008, 12:08 PM Yeah... as I understand it all them bitter gun toatin god fearers don't have tons of money to spend, or I'm sure they'd be able to get their own day at Disneyland as well.
joe
Yup, spent ALL our money on guns, bullets and Bibles. We want a bitter, broke, white guy day.
Snakebit 04-23-2008, 12:11 PM Why do you think it has anything to do with "homosexual can't...rest of us"?
I assume it is simply a promotional tool to drum up business much like a father/son day.
No, it ain't azakly like a father/son day. How bout a politicians and their mistresses day? they got a lot of money and most folks disapprove of that lifestyle too but hey, everbody needs a hug now and agin.
svend 04-23-2008, 12:15 PM don't worry, bro. he is with you always (http://members.aol.com/JesusImages/)
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not what you would think:
rocco 04-23-2008, 12:23 PM Yup, spent ALL our money on guns, bullets and Bibles. We want a bitter, broke, white guy day.
Will bitter, broke white gay guys be welcome too?
Snakebit 04-23-2008, 01:13 PM Will bitter, broke white gay guys be welcome too?
Maybe, but we ain't gonna give 'em billing.
Dwayne Barry 04-23-2008, 01:23 PM No, it ain't azakly like a father/son day. How bout a politicians and their mistresses day? they got a lot of money and most folks disapprove of that lifestyle too but hey, everbody needs a hug now and agin.
Unfortunately for those who disapprove, in another generation or two being homophobic will be just as reprehensible as being racist is today.
Snakebit 04-23-2008, 01:42 PM Unfortunately for those who disapprove, in another generation or two being homophobic will be just as reprehensible as being racist is today.
Define homophobic?
bahueh 04-23-2008, 02:22 PM Define homophobic?
phobia of homos...
well, it is. :thumbsup:
atpjunkie 04-23-2008, 08:00 PM I see things on a daily basis thast would be quite unsettling in many neighborhoods
gay/lesbian couples just out doing stuff straight couples do withoutthinking about it. Holding hands, the occasional kiss, the arm wrapped around the shoulder.
In many places this would not be accepted, people would jeer or look at them weird.
I'm sure Disneyland is one of those places. So they market a day to them where they are surrounded with other like minded people and can act freely in a place where it normally would create uncomfort among other patrons. They can hold hands at the magic kingdom comfortably one day ayear and they are willing to pay for it. Let them have it, let Disneyland sell it, everybody is happy. Or lemme guess, that is the only day you can go.
They have Gay Lesbian Ski Weeks as well. The resort town makes a freakin heap o cash. That's capitalism, right?
Fredke 04-23-2008, 08:02 PM Are there no white middle class gay/lesbians?They get to celebrate both kinds of days.
Dwayne Barry 04-24-2008, 03:45 AM Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Part of the major thrust of the gay community/lobby is to have a nation where they fit in, just like everyone else, are accepted in every way, whether as couples, married, healthcare etc. Why have devoted days or weeks for gays which only alienates them as a 'group' with dedicated 'day', 'days' or even 'week'?
Well it not exactly like gay people were the ones who asked to be ostracized and treated differently by society in the first place. I think it's a bit silly to characterize people by their sexual preferences anyway. The Romans and Greeks had a much more healthy view of sex. For the most part it didn't "define" someone anymore than ones' preference for certain foods defined someone.
Fredke 04-24-2008, 03:53 AM it didn't "define" someone anymore than ones' preference for certain foods defined someone.Try telling that to my militant vegan friends. :mad5:
The big difference is that none of my gay, straight, or bi friends ever tries to change my sexual preference, but many of my vegetarian and vegan friends are always getting in my face about eating meat.
Dwayne Barry 04-24-2008, 04:00 AM Try telling that to my militant vegan friends. :mad5:
The big difference is that none of my gay, straight, or bi friends ever tries to change my sexual preference, but many of my vegetarian and vegan friends are always getting in my face about eating meat.
That's hardcore. I've known/know plenty of vegans/vegetarians but none that ever tried to "convert" me. Most of the ones I know seem to go back and forth themselves between being fully committed :)
The Romans and Greeks had a much more healthy view of sex.
And look where that got them.
Just kidding.:)
atpjunkie 04-24-2008, 07:37 AM And look where that got them.
Just kidding.:)
about 500 plus years of world domination
oh and FYI, Rome fell as a Christian Empire.
Dwayne Barry 04-24-2008, 07:47 AM about 500 plus years of world domination
oh and FYI, Rome fell as a Christian Empire.
A theory for why the Western Roman Empire fell is that adoption of Christianity made them "soft". Although I don't think it is a very widely held one.
buck-50 04-24-2008, 08:27 AM And look where that got them.
Just kidding.:)
Yeah, what kind of an idiot would want to live in the former Roman Empire? :rolleyes:
Yeah, what kind of an idiot would want to live in the former Roman Empire? :rolleyes:
Apparently, a whole bunch of Visigoths and such.
But really, did anyone not see the emoticon and disclaimer? Believe me, I place more faith in the rye-argot and lead-lined-aqueducts explanations for the fall of the Roman Empire than I do the ones that blame supposed Roman moral deficiencies.
Dwayne Barry 04-24-2008, 12:28 PM Apparently, a whole bunch of Visigoths and such.
But really, did anyone not see the emoticon and disclaimer? Believe me, I place more faith in the rye-argot and lead-lined-aqueducts explanations for the fall of the Roman Empire than I do the ones that blame supposed Roman moral deficiencies.
I liked Peter Heather's recent book.
http://www.amazon.com/Fall-Roman-Empire-History-Barbarians/dp/0195325419/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209068025&sr=8-1
IIRC, he argues in large part, they simply got into a cycle of declining revenue as some barbarians were successful in moving into the empire (largely driven there by the emergence of the Huns) which compromised the empires military ability. The "fall" took roughly a hundred years and there were several chances to check the slide, but they (obviously) just didn't pan out. Also it wasn't quite such a dramatic "fall" as one might suspect. In many places there was a pretty smooth transition (i.e. the same folks stayed in power).
I've been reading a good bit about the end of the Republic and start of the empire. It's amazing that it stayed together as long as it did. The "state" seemed so dysfunctional compared to a modern state it's amazing that it didn't implode long before it eventually did.
Pshrynk 04-24-2008, 08:11 PM don't worry, bro. he is with you always (http://members.aol.com/JesusImages/)
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Wow Jeebus gets around. Pretty busy for a dead guy.
http://members.aol.com/JesusImages/
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 03:44 AM They get to celebrate both kinds of days.
What both? There is a day dedicated to men and women who only have sex according to the natural design of the instruments.
walleyeangler 04-25-2008, 03:59 AM This is why. http://www.gaylinkcontent.com/storydetail.cfm?storyid=2334
The size of the GLBT travel market, in terms of buying power, is what attracts advertisers the most. Based on the Travel Institute of America’s estimation of the US travel market at $1.3 trillion, the GLBT portion, at a low 5% population estimate, comes to $65 billion. Based upon Community Marketing’s annual “Gay & Lesbian Community Survey” of over 24,000 respondents, some gay & lesbian travel trends which stand out are:
98% of respondents indicated that a destination’s gay-friendly reputation influenced their decision to visit there.
59% said gay welcoming hotels were very important.
Gay and lesbian travelers took an average of six overnight trips in the last 12 months, including an average of three short (three or fewer nights) and two long (four or more nights) trips for leisure, and one trip for business.
96% of respondents took at least one short leisure trip in the last year, compared to 56% of mainstream travelers.
33% took five or more short trips.
87% took at least one long leisure trip; 16% took five or more long trips.
55% of respondents took three or more overnight trips in the last 12 months where they traveled to the destination by air.
33% took five or more.
October, September, and February (in that order) were the top vacation months chosen by survey participants, demonstrating the non-peak seasonal preferences of gays and lesbians.
15 is the median number of hotel nights. Five was the median for car rentals in the last year.
51% of respondents had taken a cruise vacation. 31% had cruised in the last two years.
28% extended a business trip for leisure; 25% traveled for a pride festival; 22% took a casino vacation.
Top US destinations: 30% visited New York; Las Vegas 25%; San Francisco 24%; Los Angeles/West Hollywood 24%.
36% had visited Canada in the last year. 33% had visited Latin America or the Caribbean.
The most visited other North American destinations: Toronto 9%, Puerto Rico 9%, Puerto Vallarta 9%, Montréal 8%, Vancouver 8% US Virgin Islands 7% and Cancun 7%.
29% visited Europe in the last 12 months.
Top European destinations: United Kingdom 12%, France 9%, Italy 8%, Germany 7%, Netherlands 7% and Spain 6%.
I liked Peter Heather's recent book.
http://www.amazon.com/Fall-Roman-Empire-History-Barbarians/dp/0195325419/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209068025&sr=8-1
IIRC, he argues in large part, they simply got into a cycle of declining revenue as some barbarians were successful in moving into the empire (largely driven there by the emergence of the Huns) which compromised the empires military ability. The "fall" took roughly a hundred years and there were several chances to check the slide, but they (obviously) just didn't pan out. Also it wasn't quite such a dramatic "fall" as one might suspect. In many places there was a pretty smooth transition (i.e. the same folks stayed in power).
I've been reading a good bit about the end of the Republic and start of the empire. It's amazing that it stayed together as long as it did. The "state" seemed so dysfunctional compared to a modern state it's amazing that it didn't implode long before it eventually did.
Oh god. I thought Rydster was gone for good and here you go channeling him.
It wasn't a bad read and he did put a lot of effort into the cause and effects barbarian pressures had on Rome but Heather spent the whole book essentially blaming the Fall directly on the Huns then, at the very end says "Well, there were a lot of other factors, too."
thatsmybush 04-25-2008, 04:21 AM What both? There is a day dedicated to men and women who only have sex according to the natural design of the instruments.
My God...who just does that?
Not to pervy, but Mrs. TMB and I are more adventerous.
Dwayne Barry 04-25-2008, 04:34 AM Oh god. I thought Rydster was gone for good and here you go channeling him.
It wasn't a bad read and he did put a lot of effort into the cause and effects barbarian pressures had on Rome but Heather spent the whole book essentially blaming the Fall directly on the Huns then, at the very end says "Well, there were a lot of other factors, too."
That's not how I remember it. Anyway, I wasn't arguing one way or the other, just saying it was a good read about the fall of the Roman empire.
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 04:52 AM My God...who just does that?
Not to pervy, but Mrs. TMB and I are more adventerous.
With other partners?
thatsmybush 04-25-2008, 05:07 AM With other partners?
Did I infer other partners...or are you just hopeful. Sorry...we practice faithful monogamy.
My only suggestion is that some of our time is spent using our parts in ways that some would consider, other than their natural design.
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 08:52 AM Did I infer other partners...or are you just hopeful. Sorry...we practice faithful monogamy.
My only suggestion is that some of our time is spent using our parts in ways that some would consider, other than their natural design.
Pervert. You're still bound by certain conventions, she is a she isn't she? :)
Fredke 04-25-2008, 09:49 AM What both? There is a day dedicated to men and women who only have sex according to the natural design of the instruments.The natural design of the mouth is for eating and speaking. Kissing is a perversion of the natural order of things.
And here's food for thought:
perversion (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/perversion) - a curve that reverses the direction of something; "the tendrils of the plant exhibited perversion"; "perversion also shows up in kinky telephone cords"
Pshrynk 04-25-2008, 09:57 AM ^^^^ That may actually be the most simplistic argument I have ever seen here on the interweb.
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 10:19 AM The natural design of the mouth is for eating and speaking. Kissing is a perversion of the natural order of things.
And here's food for thought:
perversion (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/perversion) - a curve that reverses the direction of something; "the tendrils of the plant exhibited perversion"; "perversion also shows up in kinky telephone cords"
The natural design is man/woman as evidenced by the tools and the actual methods of procreation. We can stick it wherever we choose but the natural order of things is clearly defined by design.
thatsmybush 04-25-2008, 10:25 AM The natural design is man/woman as evidenced by the tools and the actual methods of procreation. We can stick it wherever we choose but the natural order of things is clearly defined by design.
So you only find perversity when gays do it....okay.
Well it is out there then...thank god you mentioned something.
I hear they were planning a vote...and were going to make you have sex with them.
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 10:39 AM So you only find perversity when gays do it....okay.
Well it is out there then...thank god you mentioned something.
I hear they were planning a vote...and were going to make you have sex with them.
Take more than a vote sonny, force augmented by surprise will be the order of the day if them perverts plan to succeed. Ah'm armed and alert now, thanks to your heads up.
Fredke 04-25-2008, 10:44 AM The natural design is man/woman as evidenced by the tools and the actual methods of procreation. We can stick it wherever we choose but the natural order of things is clearly defined by design.Kissing has nothing to do with procreation. Sperm and eggs get together at the other end of the body.
Dwayne Barry 04-25-2008, 10:45 AM The natural design is man/woman as evidenced by the tools and the actual methods of procreation. We can stick it wherever we choose but the natural order of things is clearly defined by design.
I don't think gay people are under any kind of delusion that when they have sex they can't procreate. Even for the vast, vast majority of straight people (at least the well adjusted ones) sex has very little if anything to do with procreation.
So we're all perverts, since obviously the "natural order" of things intended for sex to lead to procreation and that is rarely why we have sex.
thatsmybush 04-25-2008, 10:46 AM Take more than a vote sonny, force augmented by surprise will be the order of the day if them perverts plan to succeed. Ah'm armed and alert now, thanks to your heads up.
Don't flatter yourself...gays have higher standards.
:blush2:
Fredke 04-25-2008, 10:54 AM force augmented by surprise will be the order of the dayOK, we get it. You like it rough (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/fia-chief-max-mosley-embroiled-in-sandm-sex-scandal/). But it makes your objection to gay sex look a bit selective.
Fredke 04-25-2008, 10:57 AM Even for the vast, vast majority of straight people (at least the well adjusted ones) sex has very little if anything to do with procreation.Uh oh, this is going to unleash Snake's tirade on the unnatural perversion called masturbation.
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 10:58 AM OK, we get it. You like it rough (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/fia-chief-max-mosley-embroiled-in-sandm-sex-scandal/). But it makes your objection to gay sex look a bit selective.
Didn't say I LIKE it rough, said if TMB's warning was true it's gonna BE rough. (I sorta doubt it though, ain't been hit on by either sex in so long it might be a compliment either way)
Snakebit 04-25-2008, 11:00 AM Don't flatter yourself...gays have higher standards.
:blush2:
I'm pretty much ok with that but it wuz YOU that told me about the pending attack, I was just responding to your warning.
atpjunkie 04-25-2008, 08:15 PM Uh oh, this is going to unleash Snake's tirade on the unnatural perversion called masturbation.
natural
how come everytime I read one of these I come away thinking Cons must have really boring sex lives
I'm sure TMBs propensity for the 'unnatural' is why he has such a damn good time being monogamus
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