View Full Version : Great speech, Jeremiah Wright


lookrider
04-27-2008, 04:35 PM
NAACP dinner, in Detroit.

Live Steam
04-27-2008, 06:53 PM
Hahahahahahaha! Do the leaders of the black community think everyone's deaf? All I heard was shouting.

lookrider
04-27-2008, 07:04 PM
Hahahahahahaha! Do the leaders of the black community think everyone's deaf? All I heard was shouting.

Do the leaders of the Republican party think everyone is stupid? All I hear is lying.:yikes:

il sogno
04-27-2008, 07:12 PM
Do you have a linky to the speech?

twinkles
04-27-2008, 07:18 PM
I saw him tonight on cnn and friday on bill moyers journal. If I were a religious person I'd go to his church in a heartbeat. He's the complete opposite of the simpleton jerry falwell types. He's a bright introspective funny guy, kinda like some ministers from my childhood. He asks his flock to think, which makes him just the opposite of rush limbaugh ditto.
The right wingers love the simple soundbyte and that's how we ended up having a president with an IQ of 94.
Wright has been demonized by the media cause americans are too busy(watching nascar) to listen to complete sermons of wrights. If you think that wright hates america and is racist you are just plain ignorant and/or stupid.

twinkles

Snakebit
04-27-2008, 07:20 PM
I saw him tonight on cnn and friday on bill moyers journal. If I were a religious person I'd go to his church in a heartbeat. He's the complete opposite of the simpleton jerry falwell types. He's a bright introspective funny guy, kinda like some ministers from my childhood. He asks his flock to think, which makes him just the opposite of rush limbaugh ditto.
The right wingers love the simple soundbyte and that's how we ended up having a president with an IQ of 94.
Wright has been demonized by the media cause americans are too busy(watching nascar) to listen to complete sermons of wrights. If you think that wright hates america and is racist you are just plain ignorant and/or stupid.

twinkles

I don't watch nascar and I don't listen to falwell. I think Wright made some outrageous and racist statements. I ain't ignernt ner stoopid neither. Well, on second thought, I may be a little bit ignernt, but not all that much.

lookrider
04-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Do you have a linky to the speech?


You're in LA so I would assume that they'll play it in it's entirety. They will probably play the speaker who introduced him, and he was incredible too.

Turns out this Wright is a real American hero.

twinkles
04-27-2008, 07:25 PM
Did you listen to the complete sermons before making these outragous judgements?
twinkles

Snakebit
04-27-2008, 07:29 PM
Did you listen to the complete sermons before making these outragous judgements?
twinkles

Of course not but I have listened to what has become public knowledge and he makes racist statements like the AIDS against Negros thing. How many Sundays do you spend woth falwell or the other evangelicals?

twinkles
04-27-2008, 07:48 PM
I've listened to and read as much as I can find before I make the official judgement as Nutjob. You are playing the role as a dumbed down soundbyte american. The reagan government in the 80's kept the begining of the aids epedemic under wraps, that's a fact. I wonder why black folk who grew up in the 1940's and 50's have problems trusting white folk? How many times do you think Rev wright was called the N word while in the military and going to college in pre civil rights Virginia. Our retarted president reagan was a racist, if you don't believe this why would he go to philidelphia misissippi to make a speach on states rights after receiving the republican nod as pres candidate? Do you know philidelphia misissippi's history with race relations? Or was he just after the racist votes? I'm surprised that Rev Wright didn't vote for reagan if rev wright is so racist.

twinkles

lookrider
04-27-2008, 08:02 PM
I've listened to and read as much as I can find before I make the official judgement as Nutjob. You are playing the role as a dumbed down soundbyte american. The reagan government in the 80's kept the begining of the aids epedemic under wraps, that's a fact. I wonder why black folk who grew up in the 1940's and 50's have problems trusting white folk? How many times do you think Rev wright was called the N word while in the military and going to college in pre civil rights Virginia. Our retarted president reagan was a racist, if you don't believe this why would he go to philidelphia misissippi to make a speach on states rights after receiving the republican nod as pres candidate? Do you know philidelphia misissippi's history with race relations? Or was he just after the racist votes? I'm surprised that Rev Wright didn't vote for reagan if rev wright is so racist.

twinkles

Don't forget about this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_ Male

spyderman
04-27-2008, 08:13 PM
... a president with an IQ of 94.
...

???

Me thinks you give him way too much credit... More like 64... srsly

twinkles
04-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Oops my dyslexia must have kicked in typing 94, I did mean 64. I'm kinda surprised that the pres limo for W isn't a short one.

twinkles

spyderman
04-27-2008, 08:39 PM
Oops my dyslexia must have kicked in typing 94, I did mean 64. I'm kinda surprised that the pres limo for W isn't a short one.

twinkles

I mean, the man can barely speak the english language for god's sake...

twinkles
04-27-2008, 08:48 PM
Yeah those dang black folk have just had it so easy. Hell a bunch of them even got a free boat ride over here. Seems to me that instead of giving black folk repairations for slavery we should charge them for their free boat ride over and have them repay the plantation owners relatives for room and board plus interest. Only makes sound economic sense.

twinkles

Bash
04-27-2008, 08:53 PM
???

Me thinks you give him way too much credit... More like 64... srsly

I doubt if it's 64; Does this help:thumbsup: :

DrRoebuck
04-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Hahahahahahaha! Do the leaders of the black community think everyone's deaf? All I heard was shouting.
I've bookmarked this page, so that next time someone calls you a racist and you throw a hissy fit, I can pull this up to refresh your memory. Thanks for the assist. :thumbsup:

rocco
04-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Do the leaders of the Republican party think everyone is stupid? All I hear is lying.:yikes:


Right on.

TheDon
04-28-2008, 05:35 AM
I've listened to and read as much as I can find before I make the official judgement as Nutjob. You are playing the role as a dumbed down soundbyte american. The reagan government in the 80's kept the begining of the aids epedemic under wraps, that's a fact. I wonder why black folk who grew up in the 1940's and 50's have problems trusting white folk? How many times do you think Rev wright was called the N word while in the military and going to college in pre civil rights Virginia. Our retarted president reagan was a racist, if you don't believe this why would he go to philidelphia misissippi to make a speach on states rights after receiving the republican nod as pres candidate? Do you know philidelphia misissippi's history with race relations? Or was he just after the racist votes? I'm surprised that Rev Wright didn't vote for reagan if rev wright is so racist.

twinkles
Sometimes you don't have to listen to much to figure out they are a nut job. I mean, look at Falwell's 9/11 comments. Anyone that says the following "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color," is a nutjob regardless. That's nutty tinfoil hat with the padded room and there is no way to get around it. Wright does have some truth to what he says, but when he says HIV was invented as a means for genocide then he has fallen off the deepend.

dr hoo
04-28-2008, 05:42 AM
Anyone that says the following "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color," is a nutjob regardless.

Would you say the same thing about someone that said the US government would infect African Americans with syphilis, and leave them untreated for decades, just to "see what would happen"? That such people are "nutjobs" for thinking that might be true?

Or have you never heard of Tuskegee?

TheDon
04-28-2008, 06:15 AM
Would you say the same thing about someone that said the US government would infect African Americans with syphilis, and leave them untreated for decades, just to "see what would happen"? That such people are "nutjobs" for thinking that might be true?

Or have you never heard of Tuskegee?
No I've heard of Tuskegee, and I would not call someone crazy for that. Infecting someone with a disease and creating a new virus are very very different. I would think that the average person would be intelligent enough to see that creation of HIV with it's novelties would be much harder to accomplish even with current technology, even with current technology it'd be nearly impossible to do. Tuskegee was a pretty simple experiment in comparison to mutation of a virus into HIV. I think you don't exactly grasp the complexities involved with HIV.

dr hoo
04-28-2008, 07:16 AM
I think you don't exactly grasp the complexities involved with HIV.

Oh, I grasp quite well the complexities involved. I've done a great deal of research about HIV and AIDS over the years. I even was supported by the NIMH for a couple years to do such research. I know the epidemiology, and I know enough about the behavior of the virus to know engineering it would be beyond the capabilities of humans in the 70's by a long stretch.

My point was not that the belief in such a conspiracy was valid, but rather that GIVEN a history of experimentation of this kind, not rejecting the idea out of hand makes a lot of sense to people with knowledge of such history. There are a lot of examples of government treatment of african americans over the years that makes such a plot "fit the pattern". So such beliefs are not as "nutjob" as a lot of people might think.

TheDon
04-28-2008, 08:03 AM
Oh, I grasp quite well the complexities involved. I've done a great deal of research about HIV and AIDS over the years. I even was supported by the NIMH for a couple years to do such research. I know the epidemiology, and I know enough about the behavior of the virus to know engineering it would be beyond the capabilities of humans in the 70's by a long stretch.

My point was not that the belief in such a conspiracy was valid, but rather that GIVEN a history of experimentation of this kind, not rejecting the idea out of hand makes a lot of sense to people with knowledge of such history. There are a lot of examples of government treatment of african americans over the years that makes such a plot "fit the pattern". So such beliefs are not as "nutjob" as a lot of people might think.

I agree that our government has and continues to have a history of poor treatment of African-Americans(although now I believe most reasons are economic rather than racist), but the treatment, as bad as it may have been, has never (to my knowledge) been genocidal which makes the creation of a virus to wipe out african americans not fit the pattern.

thatsmybush
04-28-2008, 08:16 AM
I agree that our government has and continues to have a history of poor treatment of African-Americans(although now I believe most reasons are economic rather than racist), but the treatment, as bad as it may have been, has never (to my knowledge) been genocidal which makes the creation of a virus to wipe out african americans not fit the pattern.

I think the Rev. Wright has a different life experience...and he may not see things the way you do, because many of the things we read about in history books about civil rights and its struggles...he lived through. Very difficult to remove the context of life experience and then suggest that a person who might have seen some of the worst sides of human nature in regards to race...should not harbor ideas that you find unbelievable.

bahueh
04-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Of course not but I have listened to what has become public knowledge and he makes racist statements like the AIDS against Negros thing. How many Sundays do you spend woth falwell or the other evangelicals?

somewhat to what is happening in Africa...which, if you care to "google it" is full of "Negros"....and is quite true.
you can blame it on the catholic church and its unwillingness to provide sexual education that actually works and is known to be affective.....

dr hoo
04-28-2008, 09:51 AM
somewhat to what is happening in Africa...which, if you care to "google it" is full of "Negros"....and is quite true.
you can blame it on the catholic church and its unwillingness to provide sexual education that actually works and is known to be affective.....

Actually, I think Wright is drawing on this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Viruses-Nature-Accident-Intentional/dp/0923550127

bahueh
04-28-2008, 10:13 AM
Actually, I think Wright is drawing on this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Viruses-Nature-Accident-Intentional/dp/0923550127
agreeing with the man , seeing as he also believes AIDS is a biological agent dispersed through human hands...

maybe the similarities between Snake and Wright don't stop there...

Jesse D Smith
04-28-2008, 01:36 PM
I saw him tonight on cnn and friday on bill moyers journal. If I were a religious person I'd go to his church in a heartbeat. He's the complete opposite of the simpleton jerry falwell types. He's a bright introspective funny guy, kinda like some ministers from my childhood. He asks his flock to think, which makes him just the opposite of rush limbaugh ditto.
The right wingers love the simple soundbyte and that's how we ended up having a president with an IQ of 94.
Wright has been demonized by the media cause americans are too busy(watching nascar) to listen to complete sermons of wrights. If you think that wright hates america and is racist you are just plain ignorant and/or stupid.

twinkles

I caught Wright's successor preaching at Trinity United on BET Sunday morning. I knew it was supposed to be a televised Sunday religious show, but something was missing. It wasn't until the end that I finally figured it out. They never once broke off from the sermon to make a sales pitch, asked for money, donations, etc. Now I know it's a false religion!:D

TheDon
04-28-2008, 06:57 PM
I think the Rev. Wright has a different life experience...and he may not see things the way you do, because many of the things we read about in history books about civil rights and its struggles...he lived through. Very difficult to remove the context of life experience and then suggest that a person who might have seen some of the worst sides of human nature in regards to race...should not harbor ideas that you find unbelievable.

I've got grandparents that are racist because they grew up in a time when racism was allowable, that does not mean I give them a free pass to be racist. Likewise, Wright had his views shaped by a bad time in this country, that does not give him a free pass to wear a tinfoil hat.

twinkles
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
I caught Wright's successor preaching at Trinity United on BET Sunday morning. I knew it was supposed to be a televised Sunday religious show, but something was missing. It wasn't until the end that I finally figured it out. They never once broke off from the sermon to make a sales pitch, asked for money, donations, etc. Now I know it's a false religion!:D

I never realized it til now, but I am a very religious man. However I am a polytheistic believer cause I've tithed a sh*tload of $$ to the bike,ski and booze gods over the years.

Forgive me Jose Quervo for I have sinned. I have been coveting my neighbor's bottle of Herradura Silver tequilla, emmm tasty. And by what means will I repent? I'm guessing by sipping three shots and two margaritas of Jose Quervo Gold. Opiate of the people? no. Agave of the people? maybe.

HALLILULIAH I've got the spirits in me

twinkles

Live Steam
04-28-2008, 07:38 PM
What was racist about my question? All I heard was shouting. What is the point of shouting? Please explain.

Live Steam
04-28-2008, 07:40 PM
Repairations? Really? I don't know anyone that owned slaves. Maybe you could find some whose family did, and they can chip in for me.

Live Steam
04-28-2008, 07:47 PM
Wright lived through what? He gew up middle class. You people have real imaginations. Make it up if it sounds good huh?

Rewriting history?

From the Pittsburgh Tribune (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/mostread/s_563328.html)
...... Described by Obama as his sounding board and mentor for more than two decades, Wright was born in Philadelphia in 1941. He lived in a racially mixed section called Germantown, which consisted of homes on broad tree-lined streets in northwest Philadelphia. The owners then were middle-class families.

For 62 years, Wright's father, the Rev. Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, was pastor at Grace Baptist Church of Germantown. He was one of the first blacks to receive a degree from the Lutheran Theological Seminary in Philadelphia.

Wright's mother, Mary Elizabeth Henderson Wright, was a schoolteacher. She was the first black to teach an academic subject at Roosevelt Junior High, the first to teach at Germantown High, and the first to teach at the Philadelphia High School for Girls. She became vice principal of Girls High in 1968. Rather than attend the more racially mixed Germantown High School at 40 East High St., Wright traveled a few miles to the elite Central High School at 1700 West Olney Ave., graduating in 1959. Opened in 1838, Central High has a distinguished past and admits only highly qualified applicants who are privileged to attend from all over the city. It is comparable to the Bronx High School of Science and Boston Latin School, both public schools known for academic excellence.

When Wright attended Central High, the student body was 90 percent white, according to students who attended around the same time. At least three-quarters of the students were Jewish. Former students of the period say racial tension did not exist. Bill Cosby, who attended the school until transferring to Germantown High, has referred to Central as a "wonderful" school. In contrast to Wright, Cosby has denounced blacks who take refuge in self-pitying victimhood and seek to blame whites for problems in the black community.

"Central High was a marvelous academic environment," says Tod Mammuth, who graduated in 1965 and is now a Philadelphia-area lawyer. "You had to have high academic credentials to be accepted and a high IQ score. Many later said it was more rigorous than college. We had no racial friction."

dr hoo
04-29-2008, 03:42 AM
Wright lived through what? He gew up middle class.

So, only poor people experience racism? Is that how you see the world? No middle class black man has ever been hassled by the cops, or followed by security guards?

Tell that to this guy http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/02/Tampabay/Racial_profiling_fear.shtml

Tell it to millions of other guys who have experienced similar things. You would know that, if you listened to them, and if you could hear anything but "yelling" when black people talk.