http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040908/D84VLCLO0.html

brief snippet:

"MOSCOW (AP) - A wounded Russia threatened Wednesday to strike against terrorists "in any region of the world," offered a $10 million reward for information leading to the killing or capture of Chechnya's top rebel leaders, and criticized the United States for its willingness to hold talks with Chechen separatists."

I won't bore you with all the details, but consider the implications.

But since the attack in Beslan, Putin and other top officials have turned up the volume on their accusations that Western nations apply double standards and hinder Russia's fight against terrorism by questioning its policy in Chechnya.

Sure, well if it's OK for the Neocon's, it's OK for Putin, huh? Now since Iraq, there's no putting the pre-emption genie back in the bottle.

War, war, and more war....

Sure, well if it's OK for the Neocon's, it's OK for Putin, huh? Now since Iraq, there's no putting the pre-emption genie back in the bottle.

Col.-Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, chief of the Russian General Staff, warned that Russia would launch "preventive strikes" strikes outside its borders. "As for carrying out preventive strikes against terrorist bases, we will take all measures to liquidate terrorist bases in any region of the world," Baluyevsky told reporters after a meeting with NATO commanders to discuss military cooperation. "However, this does not mean that we will launch nuclear strikes," he added.

So it'll be OK.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1094681412417&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

"However, this does not mean that we will launch nuclear strikes," he added."

Gee, I feel better now...I think. :confused:

Col.-Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, chief of the Russian General Staff, warned that Russia would launch "preventive strikes" strikes outside its borders. "As for carrying out preventive strikes against terrorist bases, we will take all measures to liquidate terrorist bases in any region of the world," Baluyevsky told reporters after a meeting with NATO commanders to discuss military cooperation. "However, this does not mean that we will launch nuclear strikes," he added.

So it'll be OK.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1094681412417&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

Did he say why no nukes. Something, "well we don't know where all of them are, and the ones that we do have are in a state of disrepair."

By the by, a plan to buy and destroy Russian nukes has had to be shelved because we don't have the money to buy them up anymore. Seems like the money got spent on something else... wait it will come to me... oh yea.... IRAQ.

Makes me feel all tingly with safety!

Did he say why no nukes. Something, "well we don't know where all of them are, and the ones that we do have are in a state of disrepair."

By the by, a plan to buy and destroy Russian nukes has had to be shelved because we don't have the money to buy them up anymore. Seems like the money got spent on something else... wait it will come to me... oh yea.... IRAQ.

Makes me feel all tingly with safety!


not the whole story. part of teh argument over disposing of russias older nuke materials centers around where they will be disposed of. the two sides have different views on that so its not being funded completely but the work goes on. nice try but you cant blame it all on iraq.

and by the way. russia has every right to defend itself. welcome to the new world.

nice try but you cant blame it all on iraq.

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I'll settle for a mere 90-95 percent of the blame. I'll give you the 5-10 percent. Seems fair.

i'm sure you would since your percentages are innacurate. but hey, squirm away if it makes you happy.

i'm sure you would since your percentages are innacurate. but hey, squirm away if it makes you happy.


Yep, you just keep toeing the line. Better to worry about the non-existent Nuke programs in Iraq rather than the very real weapons currently littering the landscape in the very volatile and unstable Russia.

Yep, you just keep toeing the line. Better to worry about the non-existent Nuke programs in Iraq rather than the very real weapons currently littering the landscape in the very volatile and unstable Russia.

what part of "the program in russia is still being completed" dont you understand?

what part of "the program in russia is still being completed" dont you understand?


Well BILL I guess it is the "STILL" rather than "the program in Russia WAS completed."

But hey it isn't like they have the capacity to reach our borders. I mean the last thing that could happen would be a "mushroom cloud over New York City."

Well BILL I guess it is the "STILL" rather than "the program in Russia WAS completed."

But hey it isn't like they have the capacity to reach our borders. I mean the last thing that could happen would be a "mushroom cloud over New York City."

i'm sorry, i didnt know you were new to the u.s. welcome my little alien friend! the program in russia has been ongoing for years and years under several administrations.

i'm sorry, i didnt know you were new to the u.s. welcome my little alien friend! the program in russia has been ongoing for years and years under several administrations.

If by several you mean two.

If by ongoing you mean derailed because allocated money has been moved to our Iraq situation.

If by alien you mean so different from your perversity of views it seems implausible that we could be from the same country.

Hey you could be right three times here if you change but a few scant words or phrases.

Yep, you just keep toeing the line. Better to worry about the non-existent Nuke programs in Iraq rather than the very real weapons currently littering the landscape in the very volatile and unstable Russia.

Meanwhile, the US has allocated ~5 billion toward nuclear weapons *production* in the current budget. The illogic of it makes my head spin.

Meanwhile, the US has allocated ~5 billion toward nuclear weapons *production* in the current budget. The illogic of it makes my head spin.

Ask BILL he is in a 'splainin mood this morning.

Well, the new Bush doctrine has been exported.

Every militant leader who decides they will prevent an attack will now attack. So, what do we do when Pakistan decides to drop a nuke on India? Or N. Korea says they think we are about to invade... Or when China decides they're tired of Taiwan's snubs?

This new Bush doctrine has further destablized every hot spot in the world.

Good job W! :rolleyes:

Sounds good to me. We can't find and kill them all ourselves. It will be nice to have some help for a change.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040908/D84VLCLO0.html

brief snippet:

"MOSCOW (AP) - A wounded Russia threatened Wednesday to strike against terrorists "in any region of the world," offered a $10 million reward for information leading to the killing or capture of Chechnya's top rebel leaders, and criticized the United States for its willingness to hold talks with Chechen separatists."

I won't bore you with all the details, but consider the implications.

Why is it considered "preemptive" if they have already been struck? Same for us. Saddam's attack on Kuwait was preemptive. Our continued war against his actions, including continued enforcement of UN resolutions, was not preemptive.

Why is it considered "preemptive" if they have already been struck? Same for us. Saddam's attack on Kuwait was preemptive. Our continued war against his actions, including continued enforcement of UN resolutions, was not preemptive.

You think?

I didn't know that the US was solely responsible for enforcing UN resolutions.

OK, call it retaliatory action- call it revenge- call it retribution... call it what it really is! ;) Preemptive is a BS euphemism anyway.

I disagree with your reference to Kuwait as being preemptive, since Saddam had no "right" to such preemption- and I assume you are using a more legal definition of the term. In fact, the US DID engage in preemption using this definition by citing the supremacy of the UN resolution over Iraqs sovereignty.