the 05 tcr's and ocr's etc are up on the aus giant website. use this link to go there directly. enjoy

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/030.000.000/030.000.000.asp?lYear=2005&bikesection=8804&range=81&model=9886

They've made some changes to the whole TCR line, and expanded it, haven't they? The wheel base on the tcr comps (not the advanced) is longer now (probably due to longer chain stays - why?), and they've added new sizes. I think I liked the raw carbon weave w/ clearcoat over the new new paint jobs.

how much longer are the chainstays? perhaps people complained about fast steering behavior? longer chainstays/wheelbase would address this issue.

They've made some changes to the whole TCR line, and expanded it, haven't they? The wheel base on the tcr comps (not the advanced) is longer now (probably due to longer chain stays - why?), and they've added new sizes. I think I liked the raw carbon weave w/ clearcoat over the new new paint jobs.

Can't give details, but expect a carbon bike in the OCR line.

Can't give details, but expect a carbon bike in the OCR line.

Yep. Bicycling has an article on the new "plusher" road bikes, including Klein Reve, Trek Pilot, Specialized Roubaix, and Giant OCR. Pics also.

After looking at the ausie site, I talked to my LBS and they said the Giant rep. said that the U.S. bikes will look different than the Ausie bikes. Don't know what that intails but I hope the carbon isn't painted over!!