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09-27-2004, 06:42 AM
Forget your pretentious ramblings on MC Che G.! how about the present need for a warrior. This article addresses an interesting confluence of political, sexual, religious and moral values.
For example
-how a passifisct socialism deals with minority violence "don't want to stigmatize the group" by exposing the problem. Maybe a little conservatism is what these people need.
-how can religious doctrine continue to be defended (when practised traditionally) in 'post'modern' society.
-Can the West judge Islam as immoral as it treats women? (I do. I judge most traditional religious/economic oppression (of women) as worthy of moral condemnation and demeaning to the practice of faith in God. But that's just me. For Western oppression I just turn on the TV.
I really wonder if (Bush/pro-war) conservatives still believe sexual politics is a justification for going into : ) Iraq. I suppose I could support some sort of Willsonian feminist campaign.
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"In this nation of 16 million people, a million of them Muslim immigrants or their descendants, Ms. Hirsi Ali is part of a small but growing group of women who say they want to spread the message that the Muslim faith can be practiced without what she calls "savage Medieval customs" like genital cutting, beatings or the confinement of women to their homes. Some of those advocates contend that modernization of Islam must come from women, particularly European Muslim women.
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The avalanche of published letters and articles reacting to the film includes one from Fadoua Bouali, a nurse in an Amsterdam hospital who said she had been shocked by the number of fearful young Muslim women who have surgery to conceal the fact that they are not virgins.
"Already men on their wedding days are getting a virgin, stitched up by Jewish, Christian or atheist hands," she told the magazine De Tijd. "Is that what they want?"
Carla Rus, a Dutch psychiatrist, said she had worked for 20 years with abused women in shelters, where more than half were Muslims. "Suicide attempts among foreign young women are five time higher than among local women," she said, citing studies.
While the debate goes on, so do the attacks on Ms. Hirsi Ali. A rap song, played on some local radio stations, calls for her death. Chat rooms and e-mail messages announce death threats. The police in Rotterdam have just arrested a young Moroccan man whom they charged with sending a death threat to Ms. Hirsi Ali.
She says she intends to continue her campaign.She recently demanded in Parliament that the minister of interior order the police to review their definition of murder in cases involving young women. She contends that at least a dozen of the annual killings of Muslim girls in the Netherlands are revenge killings by brothers, fathers or relatives. The police record them as family conflicts, she said.
"Police say they want to avoid stigmatizing a group," said Ms. Hirsi Ali. "I say, we have to know the truth."
In addition to the film, Ms. Hirsi Ali has published two books of essays on the plight of Muslim women, "The Son Factory" and "The Cage of Virgins."
Her next project is another short film: "Submission - Part Two." She said it will feature the men's point of view."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/27/international/europe/27netherlands.html?8hpib
For example
-how a passifisct socialism deals with minority violence "don't want to stigmatize the group" by exposing the problem. Maybe a little conservatism is what these people need.
-how can religious doctrine continue to be defended (when practised traditionally) in 'post'modern' society.
-Can the West judge Islam as immoral as it treats women? (I do. I judge most traditional religious/economic oppression (of women) as worthy of moral condemnation and demeaning to the practice of faith in God. But that's just me. For Western oppression I just turn on the TV.
I really wonder if (Bush/pro-war) conservatives still believe sexual politics is a justification for going into : ) Iraq. I suppose I could support some sort of Willsonian feminist campaign.
__________________
"In this nation of 16 million people, a million of them Muslim immigrants or their descendants, Ms. Hirsi Ali is part of a small but growing group of women who say they want to spread the message that the Muslim faith can be practiced without what she calls "savage Medieval customs" like genital cutting, beatings or the confinement of women to their homes. Some of those advocates contend that modernization of Islam must come from women, particularly European Muslim women.
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The avalanche of published letters and articles reacting to the film includes one from Fadoua Bouali, a nurse in an Amsterdam hospital who said she had been shocked by the number of fearful young Muslim women who have surgery to conceal the fact that they are not virgins.
"Already men on their wedding days are getting a virgin, stitched up by Jewish, Christian or atheist hands," she told the magazine De Tijd. "Is that what they want?"
Carla Rus, a Dutch psychiatrist, said she had worked for 20 years with abused women in shelters, where more than half were Muslims. "Suicide attempts among foreign young women are five time higher than among local women," she said, citing studies.
While the debate goes on, so do the attacks on Ms. Hirsi Ali. A rap song, played on some local radio stations, calls for her death. Chat rooms and e-mail messages announce death threats. The police in Rotterdam have just arrested a young Moroccan man whom they charged with sending a death threat to Ms. Hirsi Ali.
She says she intends to continue her campaign.She recently demanded in Parliament that the minister of interior order the police to review their definition of murder in cases involving young women. She contends that at least a dozen of the annual killings of Muslim girls in the Netherlands are revenge killings by brothers, fathers or relatives. The police record them as family conflicts, she said.
"Police say they want to avoid stigmatizing a group," said Ms. Hirsi Ali. "I say, we have to know the truth."
In addition to the film, Ms. Hirsi Ali has published two books of essays on the plight of Muslim women, "The Son Factory" and "The Cage of Virgins."
Her next project is another short film: "Submission - Part Two." She said it will feature the men's point of view."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/27/international/europe/27netherlands.html?8hpib