View Full Version : Component pics from Interbike


feathers mcgraw
10-13-2004, 05:39 PM
Not that comprehensive, but the best we could do. Hope you like it.

http://www.nyvelocity.com/content.php?id=128

Thanks for looking. Teaser:

<img src="http://www.nyvelocity.com/slideshow//128/m2racer.cleat.jpg" width="480">

TurboTurtle
10-14-2004, 04:50 AM
The chromed bar/stem is chrome over carbon?

Lightweight wheels - "Tied-and-soldered" becomes stapled. What kind of lacing is that?

Thanks for all of your pics.

TF

feathers mcgraw
10-14-2004, 04:59 AM
I'm not sure if it really is chrome or what, but it's carbon underneath. It's identical to the other one pictured. DeRosa said they might make it available. Not the most beautiful component ever, that's for sure.

I've never understood how Lightweight wheels are made. I'm pretty sure the spokes pass through the hub to the other side of the rim, and that they can't be trued. I've strung tennis rackets with kevlar, and it's pretty weird. It doesn't stretch much at all, but you can put tension on it. I wonder if those spokes are similar.

alibaba93
10-18-2004, 02:24 AM
Has anyone ever ridden those FSA carbon wheels? I'd like to know impressions if so. That center flange might seem whacked out, but I would be willing to consider anything that shortened spoke length and added to rigidity. I finally tried a pair of Cane Creek carbons and found that the large drive side flange made a big difference in rigidity and wind-up to a pair of Zipps (similar rim) with conventional hubs.

Kerry Irons
10-18-2004, 04:17 AM
The center flange is a totally bogus concept. No lateral strength, and therefore extra loading on the bracing spokes to handle the lateral forces. You're partly correct - the center flange IS whacked (it more than seems whacked). How anyone can think it adds to rigidity is beyond me. Just curious, but what is so great about short spokes? If you follow that logic, then super large flanges would be good. I would note that there is no such hub on the market.

Before I would believe (for one second) your claim about windup resistance, I would have to see some actual data. The data that is out there does not support this at all. Except in extreme cases, hub shell/flange stiffness is NOT the issue.

alibaba93
10-18-2004, 05:44 AM
Apologies if rationale (admittedly) not scientific. would assume that the flange on the cane creeks had been the difference as otherwise the rim profile, spokes (number, gauge) and tires (vitt tubular) are very similar to my zipps. Agree that if flange and spoke length were the difference, then other manufacturers would have very high flanges as well. But there is a difference in the riding characteristic. what else would contribute?

wasfast
10-18-2004, 06:40 AM
<img src="http://www.nyvelocity.com/slideshow//128/m2racer.cleat.jpg" width="480">

I find this pedal concept interesting. The very first clipless pedals I saw were the Cinelli's in 1976. This concept is very close to them overall. You can see a picture of the Cinelli's on http://www.classicrendezvous.com.

Feathers, I visited your site several times this last week to see your photo's. When I click on any picture, a new window opens and the loading bar gets to the first mark, then nothing. Happened with every picture I tried. I'm on either a T1 or cable so it's not a speed problem. Thought you'd like to know after all that hard work of posting the pictures.
BTW, you provided plenty of "bike lust" with all the photos:-)

TurboTurtle
10-18-2004, 07:32 AM
Mostly rider expectations. Sorry to be so blunt. - TF