I don't mean what city or state. I am looking for a description of the actual physical surroundings from which you post. This is not some secret plan hashed out with John Ashcroft, but rather just to satisfy my own curiousity.

Are you a bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss? Or are you an independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success? Or somewhere in between?

NOTE: Either Republicans or Democrats can fit either description. This is a non-partisan poll.

Me? I recently moved to a very nice office - 16 foot ceilings, six windows, on the corner of a brand new building, with plenty of comfortable accoutrements.

You?

Are you a bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss...............Yes

You must know that 99% of those here are ripping off their employers by wasting time posting on the Internet. Hey they're liberals. They expect someone else to pay for them! Me, I'm in the comfort of my home and paying for this with my own time. So who's the fool :p

I don't mean what city or state. I am looking for a description of the actual physical surroundings from which you post. This is not some secret plan hashed out with John Ashcroft, but rather just to satisfy my own curiousity.

Are you a bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss? Or are you an independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success? Or somewhere in between?

NOTE: Either Republicans or Democrats can fit either description. This is a non-partisan poll.

Me? I recently moved to a very nice office - 16 foot ceilings, six windows, on the corner of a brand new building, with plenty of comfortable accoutrements.

You?

Bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing my employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss. That about sums it up though I think the only way you'd get the IT gang boss on your case is to download porn--that seems about the only thing that triggers their wrath these days. Corporate life is sucking my soul, but I have bills to pay an mouths to feed and the IT industry is in the dump right now so I keep trying to convince myself that I'm lucky to have this job. Been through countless re-orgs and layoffs, but I must be doing too good of a job because they never package me. Some days it's easier than others here but this forum helps me from going nuts. You folks--as nuts as you are--are kinda like my virtual family. How's that for a warm fuzzy! :)

You must know that 99% of those here are ripping off their employers by wasting time posting on the Internet. Hey they're liberals. They expect someone else to pay for them! Me, I'm in the comfort of my home and paying for this with my own time. So who's the fool :p

You've answered your own question.

Better to steal from the rich, and give to the poor (me), than to steal from the poor(me), and give to the rich (incomes over the magic $200,000)

You must know that 99% of those here are ripping off their employers by wasting time posting on the Internet. Hey they're liberals. They expect someone else to pay for them! Me, I'm in the comfort of my home and paying for this with my own time. So who's the fool :p
So now you're Mr. Holier than thou? So you have such a slack job that you can afford to spend so much time on the net? What's the difference? I get my work done. You get yours done. Nobody complains. I never go out to lunch. I eat at my desk. I don't take smoke breaks.

I'm either in my office typing in between running reports or home.

Every moment I spend on this site is time not spent researching, which is what I should be doing more of.

In my office/lab, which happens to be attached to my house. White tile floor, white walls and white trim.

Every moment I spend on this site is time not spent researching, which is what I should be doing more of.
Don't underestimate the value of taking mental breaks. I know it is that we are taught to value the Protestant work ethic from a young age, but I've found I get a lot more done if I allow some breaks rather than try to pigheadedly plow through my work. 50 years from now nobody will even know I was here as far as my career is concerned. Most of us are just cogs in the machine. Depressing but true.

So what are you brewin' in that lab?

Last year I built a new one, then I enclosed an 8x20 shop area so I'd have a clean place to work on bikes ... and one thing led to another. I was sick of driving 50 miles each way to my office in the capital city, I was wanting to semi-retire anyway, the kids I had working for me were sharp as tacks and didn't need me to ramrod them much ... So I wired the barn to a satellite dish, got high speed Internet off the dish, set up a couple of computers, a couple of phones, a TV, a refrigerator for beer, a CD player for Springsteen and Mellencamp, and voila -- OldEd's Certain Victory Campaign Consulting was in bidness 37 steps from my house. About once a week I drive to Frankfort to see in person how the Kids are doing.

Most of my 'work' consists of yakking on the phone with or emailing nervous politicians anyway (once in awhile I might write a semi-slanderous TV ad, if I'm pissed enough) so it works just as well, and I git to pat a dawg now and then, as I'm doing with one foot right now.

Save cycling, Colnago with Campy, drinking Zin and putting our pants on one leg at a time, we don't have this in common. You see I don't have a JOB! I waste my own time and money on this silly board :p I am not holier than thou, but you certainly seem defensive about what you are doing by trying to justify it!

So what are you brewin' in that lab?

More like cooking, with microwaves.
I design radar and surveillance equipment for law enforcement.

Hangin' with the hawgs? Hey satellite net service really works?

Cool. Did you make a radar jammer for your car?

Save cycling, Colnago with Campy, drinking Zin and putting our pants on one leg at a time, we don't have this in common. You see I don't have a JOB! I waste my own time and money on this silly board :p I am not holier than thou, but you certainly seem defensive about what you are doing by trying to justify it!
Yeah I hear you. Wish I didn't have a job either but I like being broke even less. Guess I'm a bit jealous. If I had a spare million or two I think I would be content to just stay home and live off the interest. I wonder how much each one of us would get if Bush took the cost of the Iraq war and divided it up amongst every citizen of the US? Enough to live on?

Hangin' with the hawgs? Hey satellite net service really works?

during storms. Heavy cloud cover/rain/snow can interrupt the signal, but it doesn't happen often and the interruption is usually brief -- a few minutes. Never created a problem, or even much frustration. I highly recommend it.

Cool. Did you make a radar jammer for your car?
Why would I want to jam my own equipment? Besides, my 93 corolla (DX, 5 speed, power everything) looks slow at any speed.

I don't mean what city or state. I am looking for a description of the actual physical surroundings from which you post.

Or are you an independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success?


I am posting from my 21st floor office. It is nice, but not opulent. It is about 16 feet long and 12 feet deep. I have three windows that occupy most of the 16 foot side of the office. Soon I will be moving down the hall to a corner office, but with the same basic view. Insofar as my time is concerned, I am a partner in a small law firm. My compensation is directly tied to how much I work (eat what you kill). So, when I am posting here, I am not billing clients. No one pays for my time here except for me.

Save cycling, Colnago with Campy, drinking Zin and putting our pants on one leg at a time, we don't have this in common. You see I don't have a JOB! I waste my own time and money on this silly board :p I am not holier than thou, but you certainly seem defensive about what you are doing by trying to justify it!

Hmmm ... one of those trust funder types maybe?

Figures ...

bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss

Who is trying desperately to become an...

...independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success?

When I'm not on this site and I'm not doing my incredibly boring and underwhelming job I'm plotting my escape from this tomb.

My posts are outsourced to India. I'm out riding my bike right now.

When I'm not on this site and I'm not doing my incredibly boring and underwhelming job I'm plotting my escape from this tomb.
Same here...that big stone they put in the front of the tomb is pretty heavy though! ;)

Not really. I used to have a corner office overlooking Grand Central Station from the 37fl. at 42nd Street. I made some pretty good money and then decided to use my experience and knowledge to make my life better by investing in myself. The RE market has been boom town as everyone knows, so now I can sit here in my sweats posting 'dribble' with the likes of you :p Hey what's wrong with being a trust fund baby, anyway?

Not really. I used to have a corner office overlooking Grand Central Station from the 37fl. at 42nd Street. I made some pretty good money and then decided to use my experience and knowledge to make my life better by investing in myself. The RE market has been boom town as everyone knows, so now I can sit here in my sweats posting 'dribble' with the likes of you :p Hey what's wrong with being a trust fund baby, anyway?



Fair enough ...

I went to prep school and college with too many trust funders. My impressions are tainted for life.

Hey what's wrong with being a trust fund baby, anyway?


Nothing...good work if you can get it. Plenty of them in Boulder. They are usually busy planning their next retreat to India for a yoga seminar or writing nasty letters to the editor about how mixed up the city government is. A few of them used their money to start up businesses that have done pretty well. It would be interesting to be in the position where you could have such choices.

I don't mean what city or state. I am looking for a description of the actual physical surroundings from which you post. just to satisfy my own curiousity.

NOTE: Either Republicans or Democrats can fit either description. This is a non-partisan poll.

You?

50% of the time I am in my corner office at work. One window looks out on grape vines and the other at the back of the Research and Development Building. It's raining today which is OK in CA we could use it. Bush's environmental plan must be working because we are getting rain earlier this year than ever before here in Fresno. :D The rest of the time I am in my home office looking out on our swimming pool from the second floor. Speaking of that I have to wrap up an investigation report so I am out of here.

Morgan

50% of the time I am in my corner office at work. One window looks out on grape vines and the other at the back of the Research and Development Building. It's raining today which is OK in CA we could use it. Bush's environmental plan must be working because we are getting rain earlier this year than ever before here in Fresno. :D The rest of the time I am in my home office looking out on our swimming pool from the second floor. Speaking of that I have to wrap up an investigation report so I am out of here.

Morgan
Out of the office before 10:30? Man you neocons get all the good jobs.

Out of the office before 10:30? Man you neocons get all the good jobs.

Lie, cheat, steal, and have the right parents and you too could have these dream jobs. :D

Based on the way that you framed the question/troll, I take it you never worked for anyone who trusted or respected your ability to think freely or independently. Obviously, you were limited to rote tasks that could be gauged on a results per hour basis. It is good that <i>you</i> have confidence in your work ethic, if nobody else did. Kudos.

Hey Czar, this is one of your funnier posts! Who said you had no sense of humor?

Based on the way that you framed the question/troll, I take it you never worked for anyone who trusted or respected your ability to think freely or independently. Obviously, you were limited to rote tasks that could be gauged on a results per hour basis. It is good that <i>you</i> have confidence in your work ethic, if nobody else did. Kudos.
You're such a cooperative soul. Glad you could join in the fun. You must be a blast at parties.

Can I conclude you're a cubicle dwelling wage slave? I think I will. No wonder why you're always so bitter.

Who said you had no sense of humor?Some guy who got all bent out of shape and left in a huff.

You're such a cooperative soul. Glad you could join in the fun. You must be a blast at parties.

Can I conclude you're a cubicle dwelling wage slave? I think I will. No wonder why you're always so bitter.
I heart my cube.

Funny thing...I asked once to move to a cube by the window that was vacant and the response was no--those are reserved for director level and above. So I've got that to look forward to if I make director. A cube one space closer to the window ;) Gotta love Corporate Amerika.

Cube, office, been there done that and in either case I don't let my workspace interefere with my work. This is one of the (likely many) subtle qualities that seperates an appreciated employee from the expendable drone category you are familiar with, or "wage slave" as you recall it.

Is a sixteen foot ceiling better for staring at all day? Does one even <i>need</i> 6 windows to take in the modest majesty of Cheyenne, WY? Seemed like a pretty small pond when I passed through.

Cube, office, been there done that and in either case I don't let my workspace interefere with my work. This is one of the (likely many) subtle qualities that seperates an appreciated employee from the expendable drone category you are familiar with, or "wage slave" as you recall it.

Is a sixteen foot ceiling better for staring at all day? Does one even <i>need</i> 6 windows to take in the modest majesty of Cheyenne, WY? Seemed like a pretty small pond when I passed through.
It's no pond, but it is small. I like it that way. And there's nothing modest about the majesty of the high plains. Six windows should be required as a bare minimum. Granted, its not the SF Bay and all those buildings, but I love it here. You look down your nose at my home, but you really don't need to. I am here because I want to be here, much like you probably want to be in that overcrowded, overtaxed, overpriced Northern California region.

Passed through, huh? If you don't like it, maybe next time you drive cross-country, go through Colorado. All the traffic and displaced Californians should make you feel right at home.

"Appreciated employee"? Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.

BTW - There's "a rat" in the middle of "separate." No charge for the advice.

Passed through, huh? If you don't like it, maybe next time you drive cross-country, go through Colorado. All the traffic and displaced Californians should make you feel right at home.


Cheyenne might still be "unspoiled" but the Jackson area has definately changed in that respect. My father in law has a place in Wilson and even that community has seen some major changes with all the new money rolling in.

You look down your nose at my home, but you really don't need to. I am here because I want to be here, much like you probably want to be in that overcrowded, overtaxed, overpriced Northern California region.Don't mind if I do! I'm sure it is all very pleasant and everything, but what can one really prove in such an unchallenging environment? But I am certainly not suggesting a hard-and-fast rule. By analogy, I'm sure a person can get a very good education at the local Junior College. . .

Passed through, huh? If you don't like it, maybe next time you drive cross-country, go through Colorado. All the traffic and displaced Californians should make you feel right at home.Damn that's eerie. The only time I passed through Colorado I got stuck in the only traffic I saw between CA and Cleveland.

"Appreciated employee"? Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.Its not quite as grandiose as "independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type". Or as funny.

Don't mind if I do! I'm sure it is all very pleasant and everything, but what can one really prove in such an unchallenging environment? But I am certainly not suggesting a hard-and-fast rule. By analogy, I'm sure a person can get a very good education at the local Junior College. . .

Damn that's eerie. The only time I passed through Colorado I got stuck in the only traffic I saw between CA and Cleveland.

Its not quite as grandiose as "independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type". Or as funny.
After that insult, I will no longer endorse your application for Wyoming citizenship.

After that insult, I will no longer endorse your application for Wyoming citizenship.

to see my best buddies squabbling. :(

You ruined my whole mental picture of you, huddled down there with your computer next to the furnace, yelling up that you're NOT coming up for dinner but could she bring down some more Oreos to give you energy to face the commies..
Sorry, man, it's too comforting to give up. You'll always be a basement guy to me.

I always pegged him as one of those people you see in providing testimonials in infomercials for real estate schemes. The type who has a theoretical couple million in assets nobody wants, but without the class or the cash-flow to buy a decent shirt.

Man you guys crack me up. You think about me. LOL!!! I never even gave a thought to either of you birds. If I were to, I'd probably get sick.

Hey Czar, what's a decent shirt in your esteemed judgement? I thought you were the all inclusive type. You wouldn't talk to me if I had a shoddy shirt on? LOL!!! I didn't know it would take so little. :p

Out of the office before 10:30? Man you neocons get all the good jobs.

trying to finish this report that is driving me crazy. I wish life was that easy for me. All I know is that I would be working my @ss off for a very long time. At least I hope I have the chance to make that decision in the future. ;)

bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss

Who is trying desperately to become an...

...independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success?

When I'm not on this site and I'm not doing my incredibly boring and underwhelming job I'm plotting my escape from this tomb.


Don't bother with all that- get a union job with the government- it's kinda like tenure... and you'll never have to worry about social security. PERA pays in spades.

I don't mean what city or state. I am looking for a description of the actual physical surroundings from which you post. This is not some secret plan hashed out with John Ashcroft, but rather just to satisfy my own curiousity.

Are you a bomb-throwing, cubicle-dwelling wage-slave, stealing your employers time by posting here while looking over your shoulder for the IT gang boss? Or are you an independent, free-thinking entrepreneurial type posting from the opulence of your hard-earned success? Or somewhere in between?

NOTE: Either Republicans or Democrats can fit either description. This is a non-partisan poll.

Me? I recently moved to a very nice office - 16 foot ceilings, six windows, on the corner of a brand new building, with plenty of comfortable accoutrements.

You?

You do realize you are coming across as a sneering braggart don't you. "Bomb throwing?" "Stealing?" What a bunch of lovely pejoratives you have for the working stiff. Very revealing.

You do realize you are coming across as a sneering braggart don't you. "Bomb throwing?" "Stealing?" What a bunch of lovely pejoratives you have for the working stiff. Very revealing.


Sometimes I'm surprised there isn't actual bomb throwing on going on these days... domestically, at least.

He's trolling for a "pile on" reaction. He has already favored us with several observations of this phenomena. Apparently, if you post an opinion that favors one side in a polarized envrionment such as this, numerous contradictory posts will appear. Moreover, within the contradictory posts a common thread will reveal itself. It is really fascinating stuff.

so I'm still working and most of you have cleary called it a day. So what am I doing, well I'm mostly in advertising and marketing. I have multiple computers running so I can enjoy this board whilst getting work done. Specifics.....okay I work for a Native American owned and operated company where for one thing I do marketing and campaigns for Indian Casinos. Helping get back some of what they lost in a round about way. Gov. Ahnold sez, pay their fare share (somewhere between 8 and 25% tax) I say sure when you give back 8-25% of their land. we'll start w/ Chumash sites at Malibu running up the coast to Santa Barbara. Or much of Coastal San Diego and Orange counties to the Kumeyaay. Fair Share? Geez look at a reservation map of this country. 3 tiny plots East of the Mississippi. Oh and while we're at it, let's tax Mexico and Canada if we're going to make a policy of taxing sovereign nations. Anyhow I digress, I have a 42 mile commute (each way) that I divide amongst public transit and my bike (afterall this is a cycling board) but also as I don't enjoy aiding terrorism and adding to air pollution by driving automobiles (I do drive but do my best to limit). I live in a 'culturally diverse' non gated community where my wife and child can hang out with either our Lesbian, Gay, Straight, Sacro-Cranial Therapist Holistic Type, or Born Again Christian Neighbors. We get along just fine and I'm not worried about my friends / neighbors of color ransacking my home. Oh and right now I'm designing a catalog for competitive marksmen for my Gun lovin', NRA cardholding clients. But we have something in common as well. If you need more than bolt action single shot you should take up golf.
oh yeah...one last thing, I design and do Calendar work for a few professional sports team cheerleaders which although contributing to the further objectification of women and adding to the already obsessive body image of females today is still a good time. I ain't perfect, we all have a few contradictions in our actions and words but I'm good at it and they keep offering me the work. Got a college education to pay for ya know.? I was born middle class, have never taken a govt. handout, nor have any sort of trust fund. Just a hard working schmoe who gives a damn, that's all.