View Full Version : Dura Ace 7700 GS Rear Derailleur with a XTR 12-34 cassette?


papabear
11-08-2004, 08:14 PM
Anyone us a Dura Ace 7700 GS Rear Derailleur with a XTR 12-34 cassette and a 34/50 Crank? The setup is within the maximum capacity - but the specification says max sprocket is 27 teeth.

Kerry Irons
11-09-2004, 03:36 AM
The reason that derailleurs have two specifications (capacity and max cog size) is that neither one is sufficient to define the derailleur's performance. Most rear derailleurs will handle a cog that is a couple of teeth larger than specification, sometimes even 3 or 4 teeth, but NEVER 7 teeth. To get the fast and precise shifting of a racing derailleur, the upper jockey wheel is positioned close to the cassette cogs, and the derailleur follows a path that keeps it close to the cogs throughout the specification range. An MTB derailleur tracks a different angle, in expectation of a much wider range of cogs. The DA (or any road-specific unit) would probably hit the larger cogs on your 12-34 cassette.

ekdave
11-09-2004, 03:46 AM
Kerry is correct in theory. But............

I have a 32/44 double on my MTB with a 12-34 on the back. I use a dura ace double rear derail.

Upper wheel tracks very well. Maintains a good steady gap. The wheel position seems mostly defined by chain length or chain tension.

And I am not the only one. COUNTLESS pro downhill racers I know use DA rear deraileurs with 12-34 and 12-32

d-boy
11-09-2004, 05:36 PM
I used an Ultegra GS (for triples) and a 12-32 cassette on my MTB with with no problems. My chainrings are 48-36-26. With a minimum of chain on wrapped around the 48x32, there is just enough clearance on the RD when I go to 26x12. Going with a 50-36, I don't see a problem. If you do you'd just have to rule out using the extreme combo's. Good luck.

d-boy
11-09-2004, 05:58 PM
Oh BTW, the RD tracked very closely to the 12-32, but worked well. I don't know how well a 12-34 would fit. It's not much larger, but there wasn't much space.

I don't have it set up anymore on my MTB, otherwise I would check it out. I eventually went with an XTR GS (shorter than the SGS version, but about the same as the Ultegra GS).

LC
11-09-2004, 08:58 PM
Maybe it depends on the hanger length? I got one bike that will barely do a 27 cog without it hitting the pulley. Most bikes will do a 28 cog, but that is about it and 34 is simply dreaming.

papabear
11-10-2004, 08:03 PM
Thanks to everyone for the information. I am going to try out some combinations.