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northcoast
11-15-2004, 08:29 PM
In case anyone wanted to see the complete new bike here is a link. We tried to give it a classy look but also a race look too. Frame and fork are new. Half the parts are "modern" while the other half are 80's and 90's Campy parts.

http://www.ybarrola.com/bike/Redbike.htm

Hope you all like....

Spirito
11-16-2004, 02:47 AM
very nicely finished and is just winsome from every angle. Top job but be careful it's close to Dave Hickey size and it's in his favorite colors.

great bike.

ciao

Dave Hickey
11-16-2004, 03:22 AM
very nicely finished and is just winsome from every angle. Top job but be careful it's close to Dave Hickey size and it's in his favorite colors.

great bike.

ciao


You got that right.....Be very careful... Excellent job.

Trevo
11-16-2004, 05:22 AM
In case anyone wanted to see the complete new bike here is a link. We tried to give it a classy look but also a race look too. Frame and fork are new. Half the parts are "modern" while the other half are 80's and 90's Campy parts.

http://www.ybarrola.com/bike/Redbike.htm

Hope you all like....


Any problems building it?

GirchyGirchy
11-16-2004, 10:37 AM
Any problems building it?

Yeah, exactly how'd you go about the process? I'd love to hear about it...that's one of my goals sometime is to build up a lugged frame.

wasfast
11-16-2004, 12:10 PM
In case anyone wanted to see the complete new bike here is a link. We tried to give it a classy look but also a race look too. Frame and fork are new. Half the parts are "modern" while the other half are 80's and 90's Campy parts.

http://www.ybarrola.com/bike/Redbike.htm

Hope you all like....

You did an excellent job on your frame. Having built a couple frames, I know it's not easy.

gspot
11-16-2004, 12:33 PM
why did you use road horizontals rather than track ends? Nice bike. :D

northcoast
11-16-2004, 02:10 PM
was an inspiration for the color scheme. My brother (who built it) used to have the red Bottecchia you built up fixed as his desktop picture for a while because he thought it looked so nice.

Thanks for the compliment.

northcoast
11-16-2004, 02:13 PM
Yes it was built with a jig. It is "pinned" and then silver brazed.

northcoast
11-16-2004, 02:17 PM
Since horizontal drop outs are angled slightly down, it makes changing gears or flip flopping the rear wheel easier. As you move the wheel forward or backward in the dropouts, the brake pads stay more aligned with the rim surface. With track ends, you have to readjust the brake pads if you move the wheel too much. Either way works, but this seemed a little more practical.

wasfast
11-16-2004, 02:21 PM
Since horizontal drop outs are angled slightly down, it makes changing gears or flip flopping the rear wheel easier. As you move the wheel forward or backward in the dropouts, the brake pads stay more aligned with the rim surface. With track ends, you have to readjust the brake pads if you move the wheel too much. Either way works, but this seemed a little more practical.


Since you seem open to answering questions here, can you tell me how you did the decals? I need to make some for a refinish I'm doing.

colker1
11-17-2004, 02:22 AM
i know it's track tubing.. i see some track frames built w/ it but since you are not that big (by the size of the bike i'm taking conclusions) you could go w/ lighter, thinner tubing...

Spirito
11-17-2004, 03:09 AM
Were I to try my hand at building frames I would opt for similar stout but good quality tubing as well whilst I got the hang of it and until I had learnt more or developed an understanding for the materials and process. I guess a little meat in the beginning goes a long way and seeing some of the current lighter, thinner tubing Im sure I'd easily ruin it or my head. Some of the current True Temper and Dedaccai tubing really need a master to be be able to create with and leaves very little room for error.

I could be wrong in my assumption of course :)

ciao

DY
11-17-2004, 10:41 PM
Hi,

I'm the builder of the bike. Thron is a pretty good tube set. It is double butted and gets down to pretty thin sections 0.5mm and 0.6mm in the center and 0.8mm at the ends.

Kind of like how this years Chorus was the Record of last year or the year before, tube technology is similar. If Thron was compared to older tube sets like the PRX, SP, SLX, etc, it is great tube set.

Compared to the latest generation tubes though it is a little bit behind.

For example from the Columbus Catalog, a 54cm frame:

of Spirit tubing would weigh (tubes only) 1060 g.
of Life tubing would weigh (tubes only) 1150 g.
of Zona tubing would weigh (tubes only) 1364 g.
and
of Thron tubing would weigh (tubes only) 1405 g.

So for a boatload less money the Thron tubing weighs about 0.75 lbs. more than the lightest steel Columbus makes. Since this was going to be a single speed, it would be light already so chasing 3/4 of a pound was not considered important considering cost and longevity.

There are some track specific tube sets, but this is a Thron road tube set.