Did anyone catch the CBS airing of Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer.

Have not seen it in years and boy...did it open my eyes!!!

Institutionalized prejudice foisted on anyone that has a different belief set or acts differently or has a physical abnormality.

Everyone must be in sync no one can be outside the one all encompassing of making toys for the master!!!

Heavy misogeny, women can't do this or that...all males on the sleigh team!

And Santa...what a bigot! This aired like the unauthorized true hollywood story of what goes on in the North Pole.

Boycott Il Duce!!!! Put his head on a stick!

we should get the UN to issue sanctions or something,
declare a no fly zone over the north pole, that way santa would be forced
to comply with our vision of what the work place should be like, or we would shoot him down before he delivered his gifts... its tough to be this mean to all the children of the world, but hey, if the UN isn't willing to do it, America is...

We have it on DVD, so my 2 1/2 year old watches it over and over and over...

Did you notice that Yukon Cornelius isn't very politically correct, with that pistol in his belt, too? Plus, the name "Yukon" isn't very correct, either, as it's also the name of a big SUV.

PETA can't be very happy as the movie shows a Cornelius knocking out an endangered species with a rock, then a young kid yanking out all the animal's teeth -- only then to be thrown off a cliff!

Are "little people" destined only to be toy makers? (or a dentist)

Since the North Pole has no indigenous trees, who screwed up the environment with all those fir trees?

Silver and gold? Why is the accumulation of wealth, via destruction of the earth, no less, so glorified?

I didn't see any accomodation of those of the Jewish or Muslim faiths, either.

Bad movie. Bad movie.

We have it on DVD, so my 2 1/2 year old watches it over and over and over...

Did you notice that Yukon Cornelius isn't very politically correct, with that pistol in his belt, too? Plus, the name "Yukon" isn't very correct, either, as it's also the name of a big SUV.

PETA can't be very happy as the movie shows a Cornelius knocking out an endangered species with a rock, then a young kid yanking out all the animal's teeth -- only then to be thrown off a cliff!

Are "little people" destined only to be toy makers? (or a dentist)

Since the North Pole has no indigenous trees, who screwed up the environment with all those fir trees?

Silver and gold? Why is the accumulation of wealth, via destruction of the earth, no less, so glorified?

I didn't see any accomodation of those of the Jewish or Muslim faiths, either.

Bad movie. Bad movie.

They did have an iconic gay elf that wanted to be a dentist. Obviously "dentist" was symbolic for the "love which dare not speak it's name."

Wasn't the true message of this movie to embrace our gay brothers and sisters, appreciate their unique contributions and celebrate our underlying humanity?

always look for the subtextual narrative thread. Even the oppressed rise up so maybe it's a story about minority empowerment. Personally my favorite subtext narrative was "Sex in the City" which on it's final episode taught women that if you hang on long enough and just keep hoping, that emotionally unavailable a-hole of a man may come around. I think this show did more damage to girls of low self esteem than anything in recent history.
I used to call the show B-D-B, (broke down beotches) the whole show was shallow materialist women making bad relationship decisions and suffering the consequences, what made me really sad was how many female viewers related to the characters.

Huge fat guy lording it over the smaller weaker elves. Making them slave away producing toys that he delivers to children while they sleep, sounds like a perv to me.

They're the ones who won't love a Charlie in the Box, or a spotted elephant. Why? They're evil. And the authority figures, Santa and the Lion, are only trying to appease the children who continue to thwart Santa's altruistic intentions. Why? Because Santa is Good. The Elves should be lucky just to have jobs ("A dentist? You cant be a dentist! You have to go to elf school; learn to chuckle warmly and wiggle your ears.").

At bottom this is a tale of bigoted conservatives enlightened by progressive liberals.

always look for the subtextual narrative thread. Even the oppressed rise up so maybe it's a story about minority empowerment. Personally my favorite subtext narrative was "Sex in the City" which on it's final episode taught women that if you hang on long enough and just keep hoping, that emotionally unavailable a-hole of a man may come around. I think this show did more damage to girls of low self esteem than anything in recent history.
I used to call the show B-D-B, (broke down beotches) the whole show was shallow materialist women making bad relationship decisions and suffering the consequences, what made me really sad was how many female viewers related to the characters.

SITC
You nailed it. Couldn't agree more. I pointed out similar problems to me wife and oh my, such defensiveness. A raw nerve was STRUCK I am telling you! I was banished, banished from the living room.

Sad, very sad.

They're the ones who won't love a Charlie in the Box, or a spotted elephant. Why? They're evil. And the authority figures, Santa and the Lion, are only trying to appease the children who continue to thwart Santa's altruistic intentions. Why? Because Santa is Good. The Elves should be lucky just to have jobs ("A dentist? You cant be a dentist! You have to go to elf school; learn to chuckle warmly and wiggle your ears.").

At bottom this is a tale of bigoted conservatives enlightened by progressive liberals.

I disagree...the ending of the story at the surface seems as if there was an enlightenment among the powerful from the powerless but when you look deeper you realize that the fascists recognize a need for their society and thus are unchanged.

Santa for instance only accepts Rudolph because he now has something valuable to offer society. If not for the snow storm Rudolph would still be an outcast but Santa being the astute Hitlerite that he is brings him into the warm embrace of fascism masked in the cold specter that is societal needs over riding personal beliefs...ends justify means. Shocking!

A Dentist!?

with serious time spent studying anthropology, sociology, social psychology and psych I saw nothing 'positive' about any of the characters. it also gave me the impression of New Yorkers as being vapid scenesters (which I know is a generalization). as a 'nice guy' who could identify w/ Hayden (?) the really good guy who gets shat upon twice (been there, done that) and having had my moment of bumping into my "Carrie" still shallow and miserable while my daughter hung from my chest ( it was a 'nice' moment) and from my
ex-alpha male/ musician / man-ho perspective it did alot to alleviate any guilt I had for all those BDB drama Queens that I hit and quit. The only useful piece of information that show ever had, has now been turned into a book.
"He's Just Not That In to You".

They did have an iconic gay elf that wanted to be a dentist. Obviously "dentist" was symbolic for the "love which dare not speak it's name."

Wasn't the true message of this movie to embrace our gay brothers and sisters, appreciate their unique contributions and celebrate our underlying humanity?

No, the gays were still being locked away as sexual deviants back then.

The subplot of Rudolph was two fold:

1. Support for civil rights

2. and Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters.

Are you an anti-dentite?

Notice too that there are no positive role models for young girls. I mean the only woman in the whole series was the "person of substance" Mrs Claus. Think too about the repressive environment for the poor elves. I bet they are tracked at an early age. The moral as well, "just pull out the teeth (aka arms) of your oppresor and everything will be all right" strikes me as right wing.

As far as Sex in the City goes, you only need to understand this. A friend of mine was close to the show. He says that the producer was gay. When you look at it from the perspective of four gay New Yorkers, then you understand. Hell, one episode all they did was watch gay porn. It really is not a show for women, it is a show for gay men.

Notice too that there are no positive role models for young girls. I mean the only woman in the whole series was the "person of substance" Mrs Claus. Think too about the repressive environment for the poor elves. I bet they are tracked at an early age. The moral as well, "just pull out the teeth (aka arms) of your oppresor and everything will be all right" strikes me as right wing.

As far as Sex in the City goes, you only need to understand this. A friend of mine was close to the show. He says that the producer was gay. When you look at it from the perspective of four gay New Yorkers, then you understand. Hell, one episode all they did was watch gay porn. It really is not a show for women, it is a show for gay men.
Mrs Santa was marginalized in the movie Santa Claus is Comin to Town where she bravely helps Kris Kringle make illegal toys to deliver to the children of some Nazi Hamlet run by the Evil Meisterburgher. Her job done she meekly delivers the line "I'll follow you anywhere Kris" when they have to flee for the safety of the Promised Land--The North Pole where she can be content to fatten up Santa through her cooking and take care of a bunch of needy elves as surrogate children. Santa then turns The North Pole into the dictatorship it became in Rudolph becoming a bit like the Meisterbergher himself in the process. Mrs Claus long since abandoned her aspirations as a school teacher since she has not promised to serve her man unconditionally.

Mrs Santa was marginalized in the movie Santa Claus is Comin to Town where she bravely helps Kris Kringle make illegal toys to deliver to the children of some Nazi Hamlet run by the Evil Meisterburgher. Her job done she meekly delivers the line "I'll follow you anywhere Kris" when they have to flee for the safety of the Promised Land--The North Pole where she can be content to fatten up Santa through her cooking and take care of a bunch of needy elves as surrogate children. Santa then turns The North Pole into the dictatorship it became in Rudolph becoming a bit like the Meisterbergher himself in the process. Mrs Claus long since abandoned her aspirations as a school teacher since she has not promised to serve her man unconditionally.


aka: "You will respect my AUTHORITAAAH!!!" And remember ladies, yer just a rib:

Genesis 2:

22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.