View Full Version : Shimano cluster with complete Campag drivetrain?
SDizzle 01-06-2005, 04:55 PM I know the cog spacing is purportedly different, but just how much? With everything except my hub/cassette body and cog-cluster being Campag, will I lose something running a Shimano cluster? Will I never be able to make it shift right, or what? Thanks - S
Florentine Pogen 01-06-2005, 05:30 PM I used 9 speed shimano wheels on my campy 9 speed bikes.
I had to readjust the rear derailluer.
Shifted fine.
I hear 10 speed works the same, but I have never tried it.
SDizzle 01-06-2005, 08:30 PM I used 9 speed shimano wheels on my campy 9 speed bikes.
I had to readjust the rear derailluer.
Shifted fine.
I hear 10 speed works the same, but I have never tried it.
Yep, it'll be 10 sp. That's great news. Thanks! S
cxwrench 01-10-2005, 11:41 AM Yep, it'll be 10 sp. That's great news. Thanks! S
the thickness of the cogs is different, as well as the spacing between them. you can get it to work for about 4-5 cogs, then the difference adds up and it doesn't work anymore. i know, i've tried it a bunch of times. even put a shimano 10 wheel in a campy equipped bike while working neutral support at a race, i told the guy all i had was shimano, and he said he didn't care...it worked in some of the gears, luckily the ones he needed for that crit. but, when he rode (or tried to ride) slowly up the hill to the pit after the race, the bike wouldn't shift into those gears cleanly. if you want to use a shimano wheel w/ campy get a wheels manuf. or american classic conversion cassette, they both work fine. and i didn't just "hear" that.
Shimano spacing is 3.95mm and campy is 4.12mm. The total accumulative error is 39%. To keep this error to approximately 19%, the derailleur would need to be centered in the middle of the cassette (there is no middle cog). The results are still far from perfect.
It would be much smarter to get a conversion cassette or sell your shimaNO wheels and get campy compatible wheels.
Florentine Pogen 01-10-2005, 04:29 PM Should not have posted hearsay.
It is just not good practice.
SDizzle 01-10-2005, 04:47 PM It would be much smarter to get a conversion cassette or sell your shimaNO wheels and get campy compatible wheels.
I'm considering going a completely different route now, and I'm certainly glad I didn't put money on the above set-up! Thanks again - S
Hijacking my own thread...anyone know anything (good or bad) about - 100% Campag compatible - Bonty Race-Lites? I hate, hate, hate prefab wheels, but am considering a bike with these on them (rather than the custom route I had my eyes on earlier). The reviews are OK, but some fatties have had the eyelets (or lack thereof?) pull through the rim. I'm light (6'3", 145 lbs), but can put a good deal of power into a rear wheel (SS mtbing and fixed only road riding). Would I be better off taking my LBS's credit on these, and building my own? (I can build a lighter, stronger wheelset that might be cheaper, overall.) I guess my question is, is it worth the trouble of switching them out, or are the Bonty's well-rounded wheels?
Scotland Boy 01-11-2005, 02:00 AM Hijacking my own thread...anyone know anything (good or bad) about - 100% Campag compatible - Bonty Race-Lites? I hate, hate, hate prefab wheels, but am considering a bike with these on them (rather than the custom route I had my eyes on earlier). The reviews are OK, but some fatties have had the eyelets (or lack thereof?) pull through the rim. I'm light (6'3", 145 lbs), but can put a good deal of power into a rear wheel (SS mtbing and fixed only road riding). Would I be better off taking my LBS's credit on these, and building my own? (I can build a lighter, stronger wheelset that might be cheaper, overall.) I guess my question is, is it worth the trouble of switching them out, or are the Bonty's well-rounded wheels?
A friend of mine has a Trek 5500 DA which HAD Bontrager wheels. He says the hubs were garbage and he managed to destroy the bearings. I will say this though. He isn't famous for looking after stuff, but even so they should last more than one year.
The added stress on spokes due to carrying the the torque from the most powerful rider is only in the 5-10% range, so rider weight is the primary concern when judging the strength of a wheel.
Can't comment on the Bontrager wheels.
cxwrench 01-13-2005, 05:54 PM we need to buy you some burgers...w/ fries AND onion rings
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