Can we rename this the "Liberal Echo Chamber Board"? Man it's getting disgusting! LOL!!!

I know you are but what am I? Nah nah na nah nah. Thanks for the laugh Steam. :D
Steam, there was a good article in last sundays Chicago Tribune about how home land security issues have impacted train geeks and their quests to get into train yards to look at the old engines. Seems now the cops get called and everyone gets searched.

Can we rename this the "Liberal Echo Chamber Board"? Man it's getting disgusting! LOL!!!

I think it's more like "Bush Hating Micheal Moore Sheep Lefty Socialist Board".

What's funny is to watch the threads where none of us reasonable people respond. They search and search for a way to drag us into the fray, each escalating the vitriol for self-amusement and troll value. They even post additional threads to draw attention to the ignored threads. Hillarious. Eventually, for lack of engagement, they wither (or slither)away.

That is the new Republican 'strategery'. Ignore them and they will make themselves look foolish ;)

Hey that's what I'm here for - your amusement ;) Yeah I have read that on a few hobbyist boards too. Raelly it's nothing new. Railfans have been getting chased from yards for decades. The only difference now is they have to prove they weren't there to blow the place up - which is akin to sacrilege to a railfan.

Can we rename this the "Liberal Echo Chamber Board"? Man it's getting disgusting! LOL!!!

That is funny. You may want to return your station to the Limbaugh/Hun-nity channel for your dose of the "NeoConservative Bobblehead Board".

At least you're one of the lucky few -Steam, Doug, Bill, Snakepit and others. You at least expose yourselves to 'the other side'. Good for you! There's hope yet ;-)

Just think of all those poor saps that are eternally steeped in that ridiculous narrow minded, short sighted, bull-hockey.

DittoDittoDittoDitto....

I think it's more like "Bush Hating Micheal Moore Sheep Lefty Socialist Board".
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Yes Doug that is all of us. You have us absolutely pegged. Although I have never seen a movie by him and the only wool I have is a vintage merino jersey. You got me. I give I give.

"I love the leader."

...the Republican Conservatives and your "ilk" have less to argue about.It was your guy that won.It's your party that seems to be in control and essentially has the next few years to form policy.So if it seems that all that is being posted here is Liberal complainig it's because we have a hell of alot more to complain about.

Yeah I know there's the ilk reference again. :D

Can we rename this the "Liberal Echo Chamber Board"? Man it's getting disgusting! LOL!!!

Here's one of your brethren's comments from craigslist.

Our FRIEND George W. Bush

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Reply to: anon-56516474@craigslist.org
Date: 2005-01-21, 10:51AM EST


God Bless America the free! I posted this in the DS boards. new York needs to understand what needs to be done also.


The truth is out their everyone. Jesus has placed our leader back in power to accomplish his mission. President Bush is a great man. He is a holy man. He is an honest man. He has faith in Jesus, and that alone is all that he needs to lead this country to victory in the middle east.

Can't you people see that? Their will be freedom in the middle east. Also, freedom will be spread on any country that needs it. If your part of the axis of evil. You can expect to have some freedom spread on you too! In the end you will be free of the devil. And we will help you come to Jesus and to salvation. Whether you can see that now or not is really relivent. Jesus knows what will be done. Bush is the hand maiden of Jesus. Thats why I voted for him twice in 4 years. He is a moral man. With values and Jesus. Thats what matters most.

With a bible in one hand and a gun in the other. Thats all these animals in the middle east understand. When we are done there, their will be freedom. Their will be Jesus. Their will be salvation. Then you will see what America the beautyfull is all about.

God Bless America the free!

Yes steel is real!

Well once GW fixes everything the libs have screwed up for the last 40 odd years, you won't have anything to complain about ;)

I think it's more like "Bush Hating Micheal Moore Sheep Lefty Socialist Board".

What's funny is to watch the threads where none of us reasonable people respond. They search and search for a way to drag us into the fray, each escalating the vitriol for self-amusement and troll value. They even post additional threads to draw attention to the ignored threads. Hillarious. Eventually, for lack of engagement, they wither (or slither)away.

And you accuse us liberals of being elitist? You won the white house, the senate, the house and probably the supreme court but you still b**ch? If you don't like the free expression then take your ball and go home . . . again.

Yes steel is real!

Well once GW fixes everything the libs have screwed up for the last 40 odd years, you won't have anything to complain about ;)
...for leading us out of our dark and sinning ways.Oh the Rapture!!!!

Here's one of your brethren's comments from craigslist.

I always find it interesting when the neocon sphincter clenchers in here don't refute and condemn stuff like this. That's why it's an echo chamber, either they agree with the BS that Bush and Co. and their "ilk" shovel or they have no response to legitimate complaints.

...for leading us out of our dark and sinning ways.Oh the Rapture!!!!

then we'd be rid of all these bigoted, intolerant bible thumping smug a holes. Yeah, i'm intolerant of a holes.

That is the new Republican 'strategery'. Ignore them and they will make themselves look foolish ;)

That's been a part of the Republican strategy for years. Good news it's working. Dems have been losing offices for awhile and they will continue to do so. Normal Americans have figured out the media bizness and they are turning to outlets that are less biased. The Dem's are second rate politicians.

I think it's more like "Bush Hating Micheal Moore Sheep Lefty Socialist Board".


Does that make you and Steam part of the Clinton Hating, Limbaugh-Loving DittoHead Righty Fascist Board?

I think it's more like "Bush Hating Micheal Moore Sheep Lefty Socialist Board".

What's funny is to watch the threads where none of us reasonable people respond. They search and search for a way to drag us into the fray, each escalating the vitriol for self-amusement and troll value. They even post additional threads to draw attention to the ignored threads. Hillarious. Eventually, for lack of engagement, they wither (or slither)away.

What is your obesession with Michael Moore? You mention it in practically every recent post. Most Democrats can't stand the guy either. You have to stop blindly repeating the drivel of Rush.

What is your obesession with Michael Moore? You mention it in practically every recent post. Most Democrats can't stand the guy either. You have to stop blindly repeating the drivel of Rush.
Doug seems to be going through his gloating, self-righteous, name calling phase now. Pretty soon he will get really upset with all of is "lefties" and throw a fit and then leave "permanently" only to return later.

What is your obesession with Michael Moore? You mention it in practically every recent post. Most Democrats can't stand the guy either. You have to stop blindly repeating the drivel of Rush.

Michael Moore, thinks of him as a spokesman or a leader and an exemplar of any sort. And I mean NONE. I can barely stand to listen to him talk, and that's been true for many years, long before the politics.

I really would like to see some of the, apparently, multitudinous posts that have appeared here citing MM's wisdom and leadership in these troubled times. I can't recall many, but then I don't read most of the libby venom spewed here ... ho, ho.

Moore's leadership of the Pantywaste Legions, however, is the sort of repeated 'truth' that bounces around the -- yes! -- right wing echo chamber though, so there's no fighting it. Both sides have their truisms that are totally off that wall, of course; this is one of the right's beauts.

Michael Moore, thinks of him as a spokesman or a leader and an exemplar of any sort. And I mean NONE. I can barely stand to listen to him talk, and that's been true for many years, long before the politics.

I really would like to see some of the, apparently, multitudinous posts that have appeared here citing MM's wisdom and leadership in these troubled times. I can't recall many, but then I don't read most of the libby venom spewed here ... ho, ho.

Moore's leadership of the Pantywaste Legions, however, is the sort of repeated 'truth' that bounces around the -- yes! -- right wing echo chamber though, so there's no fighting it. Both sides have their truisms that are totally off that wall, of course; this is one of the right's beauts.
I like Moore and his movies but he's hardly my spokesman. I disagree with him as much as I agree with him, but both sides need their agitators. makes things more interesting.

Here's one of your brethren's comments from craigslist.

God Bless America the free! I posted this in the DS boards. new York needs to understand what needs to be done also.


The truth is out their everyone. Jesus has placed our leader back in power to accomplish his mission. President Bush is a great man. He is a holy man. He is an honest man. He has faith in Jesus, and that alone is all that he needs to lead this country to victory in the middle east.

Can't you people see that? Their will be freedom in the middle east. Also, freedom will be spread on any country that needs it. If your part of the axis of evil. You can expect to have some freedom spread on you too! In the end you will be free of the devil. And we will help you come to Jesus and to salvation. Whether you can see that now or not is really relivent. Jesus knows what will be done. Bush is the hand maiden of Jesus. Thats why I voted for him twice in 4 years. He is a moral man. With values and Jesus. Thats what matters most.

With a bible in one hand and a gun in the other. Thats all these animals in the middle east understand. When we are done there, their will be freedom. Their will be Jesus. Their will be salvation. Then you will see what America the beautyfull is all about.

God Bless America the free!

Now, replace "GWB" with "Osama bin Laden", "Jesus" with "Allah", and "Bible" with "Koran". Hmmm, I guess that religious extremists, no matter what religion they are, are more alike than they care to admit...

That's been a part of the Republican strategy for years. Good news it's working. Dems have been losing offices for awhile and they will continue to do so. Normal Americans have figured out the media bizness and they are turning to outlets that are less biased. The Dem's are second rate politicians.
...but better human beings.

I'm calling you on inserting these Michael Moore references as an intentional atempt to irk people who you well know have no affection or interest in the man.

Time for some new material.

Yeah that Ted Kennedy is some human being all right!

Michael Moore, thinks of him as a spokesman or a leader and an exemplar of any sort. And I mean NONE.

Once upon a time, of course, the Democratic establishment kept Moore at arm's length, deeming him too controversial and mercurial to be of much political use. But those days are gone. Earlier this year Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark shared a stage with Moore at a campaign rally in New Hampshire, at which Moore questioned Bush's National Guard service, branding him a "deserter." And while the press pounced on Clark for standing by Moore while he made such a harsh -- and factually inaccurate --criticism of Bush, Democrats couldn't help but marvel at how Moore single-handedly revived the issue of Bush's military service, injecting it into the campaign, where it remains to this day. Now that Moore has come out with a film that's filled with a slew of harsh -- and, in some instances, unfair --criticisms of Bush, Democrats are giddy about how Moore and his movie might affect the presidential election. "I think anyone who sees this movie will come out en masse to make sure John Kerry is elected president this November," McAuliffe said after the premiere. "Credit to Michael Moore for taking the time to put this together." As one of Moore's associates explained, the filmmaker is "the point in the spear for the Democratic party. ... He's willing to be at the leading edge, pushing these thoughts and ideas that have an impact on Bush and relieving Kerry from having to deliver that hard negative that has repercussions."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/24/opinion/main625985.shtml

How about John Conyers?

I can't locate a source, but one house rep. praised MM during debate. He has appeared at several Democrat fund raising events. Sure, he's not become the party leader, but many have expressly or tacitly approved of him.

Once upon a time, of course, the Democratic establishment kept Moore at arm's length, deeming him too controversial and mercurial to be of much political use. But those days are gone. Earlier this year Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark shared a stage with Moore at a campaign rally in New Hampshire, at which Moore questioned Bush's National Guard service, branding him a "deserter." And while the press pounced on Clark for standing by Moore while he made such a harsh -- and factually inaccurate --criticism of Bush, Democrats couldn't help but marvel at how Moore single-handedly revived the issue of Bush's military service, injecting it into the campaign, where it remains to this day. Now that Moore has come out with a film that's filled with a slew of harsh -- and, in some instances, unfair --criticisms of Bush, Democrats are giddy about how Moore and his movie might affect the presidential election. "I think anyone who sees this movie will come out en masse to make sure John Kerry is elected president this November," McAuliffe said after the premiere. "Credit to Michael Moore for taking the time to put this together." As one of Moore's associates explained, the filmmaker is "the point in the spear for the Democratic party. ... He's willing to be at the leading edge, pushing these thoughts and ideas that have an impact on Bush and relieving Kerry from having to deliver that hard negative that has repercussions."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/24/opinion/main625985.shtml

How about John Conyers?

I can't locate a source, but one house rep. praised MM during debate. He has appeared at several Democrat fund raising events. Sure, he's not become the party leader, but many have expressly or tacitly approved of him.

I guess I see your point.

This is pretty weak. You're making a rhetorical point with the 'Bush hating Michael Moore pantywaste socialist' smear, but it's not tethered to reality, as truly effective smears must be. If you'd stick to calling us just 'Bush hating pantywaste socialists' you'd be on firmer ground. Hard to deny our bedrock pholosophical principles. But Michael Moore -- nah, you guys think about MM 200 times more than we do, and credit him with 300 times the impact we do.

Yeah that Ted Kennedy is some human being all right!

That Newt character was quite the upstanding guy as well....divorcing his wife while she was ill....now what does the Bible say about that I wonder???

Yeah that Ted Kennedy is some human being all right!
..lay off Uncle Teddy Bear. :D

That Newt character was quite the upstanding guy as well....divorcing his wife while she was ill....now what does the Bible say about that I wonder???

YOU hush your mouth. That man is running for president.

See Doug...stop the dissent before it can accumulate into the endless cornacopia which is liberal ideological diarrhea.

Given Wesley Clark's overwhelming influence in the party


Exactly.

It isn't as if Moore attended the Dem. Convention and sat with a former President or anything. :rolleyes:

Maybe we can put Moore in a room with whoever is in charge of the Aryan Nation and hammer out this whole Blue vs. Red thing once and for all. :rolleyes:

Exactly.

It isn't as if Moore attended the Dem. Convention and sat with a former President or anything. :rolleyes:

(a) has vast influence within the party, or

(b) gave two tordes (see Middle Enlish discussion below) about anything MM had to say.

You guys REALLY gotta do better.

but a Con who Starts a Post without a point and only an Ad Hom pretty much sums the
'echo' of the neo-cons. You bring nothing to the table, you have nothing to back your points
so to fill the void you fill it with name calling.
Afterall echo chambers work best when empty.

(a) has vast influence within the party, or

(b) gave two tordes (see Middle Enlish discussion below) about anything MM had to say.

You guys REALLY gotta do better.

Ed,

Please don't get me wrong. I completely understand the situation.

Who can't sympathize with really getting looped at a party and waking up the next morning next to a big, fat, greasy, obnoxious slob?

I don't blame you in the least for burning the sheets, fumigating the house and pretending that it was all a bad dream... ;)

I always find it interesting when the neocon sphincter clenchers in here don't refute and condemn stuff like this. That's why it's an echo chamber, either they agree with the BS that Bush and Co. and their "ilk" shovel or they have no response to legitimate complaints.

I refute and condemn it, but I am not willing to wear the label of "neocon sphincter clencher", although it is a highly descriptive term.

The religious extremists, such as this one from "Craig's List" are no more spokespeople for the conservatives of this country than Michael Moore (to be consistent with the theme of the thread) is for the liberals. The news agencies get a lot of mileage reporting about the extremes, but those of us who don't quite fit the mold aren't good grain for their mill. This is akin to the lack of headlines that scream "Planes land safely at O'Hare today!" Who would buy that paper? Michael Moore's caricature-like being is much more interesting and sells more papers. Yet the vast majority of people I am in contact with, Democrat and Republican alike, are very reasonable people who just seem to want the best for them and their families.

I don't go to that guy's church, and I don't know anyone who does.

the Religious Right made up 25% of the vote. If they didn't matter the Party wouldn't have put issues on the ballot that would drag them to the polls. The Party needs the big dumb voting block and uses them like girls with low self esteem in High School. Problem is, they've backed this Party for Decades and they want payback. The Michael Moores of the Libs don't have the pull (yet) but if the ne w Liberal PACs (moveOn) gain more power they will. The extremes on the right are giving birth to the new PACs on the left.

Now, replace "GWB" with "Osama bin Laden", "Jesus" with "Allah", and "Bible" with "Koran". Hmmm, I guess that religious extremists, no matter what religion they are, are more alike than they care to admit...

the english-speaking muslim would probably know the difference between "there" and "their" though, also "your" and "you're" and their proper use. also how to spell "relevant".

That Newt character was quite the upstanding guy as well....divorcing his wife while she was ill....now what does the Bible say about that I wonder???

getting a hummer in the parking lot while waiting to pick up his kid from school etc. etc. :eek:

when God is on your side. these folks do a great disservice to their cause and reconfirm the Twain adage 'better to say nothing....."

I always find it interesting when the neocon sphincter clenchers in here don't refute and condemn stuff like this. That's why it's an echo chamber, either they agree with the BS that Bush and Co. and their "ilk" shovel or they have no response to legitimate complaints.

I ignored it at first because I have a hard time believing that it's real. I think it's a troll.
Not that there aren't total wackos in any group of people (i.e. the godhatesfags people), but "animals" and "Bush is the hand maiden of Jesus"? Give me a break.

Velocity, how about a link to that post? I'd love to see some other posts by that person.

There will be much refutation and condemnation if it turns out to be legit.

the Religious Right made up 25% of the vote.

How is a person identified as being part of the "Religious Right'?

Here's one of your brethren's comments from craigslist.

Would you mind linking to that post?

Wasn't he a speaker at the Dems convention or did I just imagine that?

the english-speaking muslim would probably know the difference between "there" and "their" though, also "your" and "you're" and their proper use. also how to spell "relevant".

Oh yeah, I forgot about that! That's another reason why I can't take those groups seriously; if you're going to present your ideas to a forum, fer cryin' out loud, use proper grammar and spelling! It will make you appear (key word) to be educated, and not just some nutjob spewing vitriol. That's why I'll never have business dealings with anyone who works as a "minner"... :D

I ignored it at first because I have a hard time believing that it's real. I think it's a troll.
Not that there aren't total wackos in any group of people (i.e. the godhatesfags people), but "animals" and "Bush is the hand maiden of Jesus"? Give me a break.

Velocity, how about a link to that post? I'd love to see some other posts by that person.

There will be much refutation and condemnation if it turns out to be legit.

Here's a link http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/56516474.html

I haven't seen other posts by this person -- it was forwarded to me by my wife, who thought it would warm my soul.

Sad to say but some Bush supporters believe the gist of it -- but I happen to think it's a troll too.

I refute and condemn it, but I am not willing to wear the label of "neocon sphincter clencher", although it is a highly descriptive term.

The religious extremists, such as this one from "Craig's List" are no more spokespeople for the conservatives of this country than Michael Moore (to be consistent with the theme of the thread) is for the liberals. The news agencies get a lot of mileage reporting about the extremes, but those of us who don't quite fit the mold aren't good grain for their mill. This is akin to the lack of headlines that scream "Planes land safely at O'Hare today!" Who would buy that paper? Michael Moore's caricature-like being is much more interesting and sells more papers. Yet the vast majority of people I am in contact with, Democrat and Republican alike, are very reasonable people who just seem to want the best for them and their families.

I don't go to that guy's church, and I don't know anyone who does.

Glad you liked the term "neocon sphincter clencher", or at least thought it was highly descriptive. I thought it was one of my better ones.

Let's face it, there are extremes on both sides but the person who said something about liberals and NAMBLA is simply wrong. I'm not a liberal but I cannot imagine anyone short of a child molester supporting that @^%@#$ group.

I think Michael Moore is funny and makes a point but I'm not so gullible that I think he makes sense most times. What is wrong with moderation?

I can hardly count the number of times I've laid out reasonable arguments on this board, only to see conservatives walk away when confronted. I understand that you are out numbered around here, but that shouldn't stop you if you think truth is on your side. I'm on the short end of a few issues myself. Just remember that a few Liberals around here are open to new ideas. I've always said that I'm happy to change my mind as new information arrives. It boggles my mind what other people do with new information.

Originally Posted by Live Steam
Can we rename this the "Liberal Echo Chamber Board"? Man it's getting disgusting! LOL!!!

While we've been getting disgusting, LS and his ilk have BEEN disgusting....for quite some time now!

Nyuk! Nyuk!

Here is what we would normally hear from the neo-cons, and some of which has been posted on this thread as well:

1.) Everything is Clinton's fault.

2.) Michael Moore is a big doody-head (I sort of agree with this one)

3.) The media is always tilting towards the liberal side (even though that's far from the truth)

4.) Rush Limbaugh is always right.

5.) Homosexuals are bad.

6.) God is great!

7.) Jesus is your savior whether you like it or not.

8.) It's all Clinton's fault (this one has to be repeated because it IS repeated so many times)

9.) We're in Iraq because they were supporting terrorists...

And the list could go on for days.

I think both sides spout the rhetoric of their determined party, and or who they want to cheer for don't they? It all depends on your viewpoint. Now, there are times when I'm able to listen to someone else's viewpoint, consider it, and determine for myself whether or not I agree with it, but when someone just repeats the Bush administration, or just follows the party line without questioning it, that's when I turn it off..

but a Con who Starts a Post without a point and only an Ad Hom pretty much sums the
'echo' of the neo-cons. You bring nothing to the table, you have nothing to back your points
so to fill the void you fill it with name calling.
Afterall echo chambers work best when empty.

I really don't get it- when the right has the federal government and the media all wrapped up, what is the point of Steam and Doug's taunting? You'd think it would be much easier to ignore the "leftist echo chamber."

This is what annoys me so much about conservatives- they still scream like they are being victimized.

I really don't get it- when the right has the federal government and the media all wrapped up, what is the point of Steam and Doug's taunting? You'd think it would be much easier to ignore the "leftist echo chamber."

This is what annoys me so much about conservatives- they still scream like they are being victimized.

cause deep in their shrivelled, prune-sized hearts, they know their stance has no legitimacy.

While we've been getting disgusting, LS and his ilk have BEEN disgusting....for quite some time now!

Nyuk! Nyuk!

..ALWAYS GIVES ME A CHUCKLE.

..ALWAYS GIVES ME A CHUCKLE.

Yep!!

How is a person identified as being part of the "Religious Right'?
The symptoms are easy to spot: hypocrisy, moral bankruptcy, prejudice and racism, self-righteousness and hate of anyone not in full agreement with their creed are the most common identifiers.

The symptoms are easy to spot: hypocrisy, moral bankruptcy, prejudice and racism, self-righteousness and hate of anyone not in full agreement with their creed are the most common identifiers.

Don't forget an unwavering and fervent hope for the Second coming