And available all the way down to Veloce level (for a cogset, it is still very high quality).

Interesting that they would have that "Flat century Special" or rouleur's favourite: 14-23 10s (that is EVERY cog in between). Neat!

I am considering a 12-23 for timetrials and flat races. I will get that 18, which is my wanted gear for long TTs (slower portions ;-).

If I need an 11, I'm obviously going downhill. That means I would have needed the 25 to get up in the first place, so I'll use my 12-25 for hillier RRs.

I also have a 11-23, primarily used on the rollers during the winter (need that 11!).

I still can't find the Record 12-23 anywhere in Europe...I guess I could also go for the 11-21 but the chain line would be less optimal for those 53x21 climbs I do....nothing steep or lasts long enough in Holland to even bother shifting down to the 39 ring.

Awesome. I am getting a new bike and want a 12-23. I thought I would rather have the 12-25 than the 11-23. I'm glad they came out with it.

I've waited so long for these to come out, where did u find this information?!?

I can't do without my 18, and don't need an 11, so 12-23 is perfection, please post the website you spotted this on, just hoping it's in Euroland ;)

i too live where its flat and never use the 21 or 23 on my 11-23. i soooo wish they would come out with a chorus 11-21 (or anything for less $$$ than the record!)

I haven't found any web site (barnford or lickbike) updated with these new options. Who has them?

labicicletta.com has 12-23 in Record or Veloce.

Hmpf. Nice price spread eh! It should be available in Centaur (best value) but they didn't have one for me.

I ended up ordering a Centaur 13-26 (have 12-25, 11-23).

The 'new' ratios are 9 speed options. See campy's web site. It is possible however to get your 12-23 10 speed with the 18t by switching around loose cogs in a centaur cassette. See brandfordbike.com for loose cog listings.

Perhaps Campy will respond with a 12-23 10 speed now that Shimano has one, I'd like one...

Campy Record has 12-23 10 speed and they're for sale in Europe now as well.
http://www.campagnolo.com/groupsets.php?gid=1&cid=5&pid=11
http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares04_B.pdf

The 'new' ratios are 9 speed options. See campy's web site. It is possible however to get your 12-23 10 speed with the 18t by switching around loose cogs in a centaur cassette. See brandfordbike.com for loose cog listings.

Perhaps Campy will respond with a 12-23 10 speed now that Shimano has one, I'd like one...

Sorry mate, check the Campagnolo website and at least four good UK sites all stocking 12 - 23 10 speed cassettes, mine's on order from www.xpedia.co.uk, though I see that ribblebikes.co.uk also have them in stock & Ribble have always been very quick & well priced for us Brits.

Sorry mate...
No need to apologize, I stand corrected, and this is good news for me too. Looks like they dont have a Chorus 12-23 yet, but there are indeed Record and Veloce options.
Thanks!

And available all the way down to Veloce level (for a cogset, it is still very high quality).

Interesting that they would have that "Flat century Special" or rouleur's favourite: 14-23 10s (that is EVERY cog in between). Neat!

I am considering a 12-23 for timetrials and flat races. I will get that 18, which is my wanted gear for long TTs (slower portions ;-).

If I need an 11, I'm obviously going downhill. That means I would have needed the 25 to get up in the first place, so I'll use my 12-25 for hillier RRs.

I also have a 11-23, primarily used on the rollers during the winter (need that 11!).

my son wanted the 14/23 veloce -lbs claimed they were impossible to get!

Try Branford Bike. They have almost everything available.

http://www.branfordbike.com/cassette/cog5.html#item3

my son wanted the 14/23 veloce -lbs claimed they were impossible to get!
http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/us/tlsstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=US-CAMCASSVEL04

BTW, aside from the high prices.....anyone notice that they all end in 88 cents at Branford ? Spooky :)

Cat 3 boy. I dig your avatar. One of my favorite films of last year. I dig your signature, too. Cheeky.

Miche do very inexpensive Campag 10 speed cassettes with better ratios than Campag, i.e. 12-21 & 12-23. In the UK they cost just £33 (Oldham Cycle Centre).

I've just bought a 12-21 for my TT wheels (2002 Ksyrium Elites) and they are good quality, very shiny with cool blue spacers.

First race on them is tomorrow!

They also do a more expensive aluminium version (top two sprockets are steel) which I'm thinking of putting on my Ksyrium SL's when I buy them.

Hey Welshboy!

How did the TT go?? Pretty wet & windy I would imagine, which event was it?

I'm interested to know how well your Miche cassette shifts.

Hey Welshboy!

How did the TT go?? Pretty wet & windy I would imagine, which event was it?

I'm interested to know how well your Miche cassette shifts.


Yeah, Miche good or bad??

Only one ride so far (30 mile TT) but it worked just fine.

Wreckermended!

Hey Welshboy!

How did the TT go?? Pretty wet & windy I would imagine, which event was it?

I'm interested to know how well your Miche cassette shifts.

It was the Bynea '30' and although it was quite windy it just stayed dry. I had a good ride at my own sweet Division 3 level coming 25th out of 48. To put that into perspective, two weeks ago I was the Lantern Rouge in the Abertillery Hilly 25!

It was the Bynea '30' and although it was quite windy it just stayed dry. I had a good ride at my own sweet Division 3 level coming 25th out of 48. To put that into perspective, two weeks ago I was the Lantern Rouge in the Abertillery Hilly 25!

So what if you were the lanterne rouge, just wait till next year & you'll get the prize for biggest improvement!!

Keep pluggin' away, you'll be amazed how quick the improvements come, never give up ;-)

Miche 12-21 10 speed cassette still running sweet but I'm going like a bag of spanners.

Xpedia.co.uk apologised, but at least it's here.

BTW I'm also going like a broken budgie, having just returned from 2 weeks training in Italy.
I can totally recommend Riccione & Hotel Dory especially. Just make your own arrangements & DON'T rely on a well known English so called sports holiday company.

It's a long story ;-)

is this like the longest running thread in history? who would have thought that a discussion on campy cogsets would go on for almost two months!

is this like the longest running thread in history? who would have thought that a discussion on campy cogsets would go on for almost two months!

That's the wonder of Campagnolo ;-)

You should see the bike shop in Italy I visted that has every conceivable Campag spare part in glass cases on display. You want a 1980 Super Record rear mech brass bush or spring, he's got the lot!

A true shrine to Campagnolo..........now back to those cogsets.........

is this like the longest running thread in history? who would have thought that a discussion on campy cogsets would go on for almost two months!

So what's that got to do with the price of fish?

So Campag are making fish now are they?!?

Does the Record version have carbon fins?

;-)

I know my plaice.

Is labicicletta a better place to deal with than branford in terms of price and service?
I need to get a new 10v and am debating between the 14-23 and the 12-25 Chorus.
Weight is pretty close, too, right?

Is labicicletta a better place to deal with than branford in terms of price and service?
I need to get a new 10v and am debating between the 14-23 and the 12-25 Chorus.
Weight is pretty close, too, right?

Unless you are racing the Junior Class at USCF races and subject to gear restrictions then get the 12-25 cassette. You will never miss the 20 tooth or 22 tooth cogs from the 14-23 cassette.

undefinedIs labicicletta a better place to deal with than branford in terms of price and service?
I need to get a new 10v and am debating between the 14-23 and the 12-25 Chorus.
Weight is pretty close, too, right?

Excellent service and inventory.
My experience w/la bc-clitters sucked.

Unless you are racing the Junior Class at USCF races and subject to gear restrictions then get the 12-25 cassette. You will never miss the 20 tooth or 22 tooth cogs from the 14-23 cassette.

Unless you are racing, and winning sprints on a regular basis, a 14t big cog is probably fine. I use a 6 speed 14-26, with 53/39 rings. I use the 53/14 only on descents. If I'm spun out in a 53/14, I'd be spun out in a 12 or 13, as well. I know, I've ridden all three. For recreational riders, even serious ones, 14t is plenty.

Swapping rarely used top-end gearing for tighter spacing in the cruising range makes a lot of sense for a lot of riders. It's nice to see that at least Campy recognizes this. Will Shimano follow suit, or will they continue to assume that everyone who rides a road bike is a 28 year old, 150 pound pro racer? Time will tell.

--Shannon

I thought we were all pro racers here ;)

I've just bought a second Miche cassette, this time an 11-23. For the rest of the TT season I've banged the 11-23 and 12-21 to make a 'straight-through' 11-20. Shifting is excellent and the £66 total cost for two cassettes isn't too bad compared to a standard Centaur cassette which is only a few quid less. As one cog is duplicated then I can't make a 10 speed 12-23 with the spares but I can make a 9 speed cassette using the spare spacers from a Mavic cassette.

i'd want a 11-24. i use 11-25. 25's nice on hills.
come to think of it; where do i get a 54 ring?

54/39 x11-24 would be my ideal

i can't believe people are still posting to this!

I can't believe that some people can't believe that some people are still posting to this!

i'd want a 11-24. i use 12-25. 25's nice on hills.
come to think of it; where do i get a 54 ring?



54/39 x11-24 would be my ideal