View Full Version : NJS- some curiosity questions


Auriaprottu
03-13-2004, 06:42 AM
Does anyone here know enough about the NJS (Nihon Jitensha Shinkokai) standards for componentry to answer these questions? Since getting interested in building a fixie, I've been paying a lot of attention to pics and specs of track bikes in general. I don't plan on spending the extra cash for NJS gear, but I do have a few curiosity questions I hope someone here can answer.

1) How extensive are the standards? I.E. do they cover frame material, geometry, weight, as well as components? Do they cover track construction and specs?

2) Are they geared :) to maintain continuity over the years- same specs season after season, like baseball and golf, so that modern era athletes have as little an advantage as possible over those of the past (preserving the conditions in which the old records were set, so that new ones are validated)- or do they exist solely to insure that the racers of a given era have no advantage over each other?

3) Campagnolo's pista gruppo was rejected (several times?) by NJS before finally being certified. Was this because Campagnolo wanted to introduce improvements that would have compromised the standards, or was it a business move designed to draw credibility away from Campagnolo and give it to Shimano (a local company)?

4) Is the equipment higher quality, or is it just more consistent from unit to unit? Is a given manufacturer's NJS hub better than their non-NJS model, or simply built to different (but equal) specs? I guess most manufacturers who have an NJS crank don't offer a non-NJS model, but in the case of Phil, Paul, or any other of the higher-end hubs by manufacturers who don't have the NJS stamp of approval- are they somehow not as good as, say, Dura-Ace?

Thanks in advance.

mr_e
03-13-2004, 05:35 PM
1) They do indeed cover frame material, design and manufacturer. I don't know the specific language, but I'm pretty sure it has to be lugged steel frames.
2)Both- consistancy during a season does take priority. Keirin racing is big money in Japan, and is heavily regulated to keep things fair. Not very open to "change" really. Safety is big, but so is consistancy between racers.
3)For a long time NJS certification was only given to Japanese mfgs. This was to keep Keirin big buisness for domestic companies. Campy stuff was to light and thing for a long time, though I'm not sure what specific changes affected the ruling. I may be wrong, but I beleive only certain campy parts have NJS certification (ie- not the whole group).
4)Phil and Paul use sealed bearings- NJS calls for loose ball if I remember correctly. I'd put my Phil high flange hubs against a set of Suzue Promax hubs any day of the week. Both are good, but NJS isn't the end all be all of track equipment.

girishji
03-14-2004, 02:29 PM
vaguely related to your post, I came across some info today that is quite interesting. Link:
http://oldskooltrack.com/files/tomity-keirin.frame.html