Any updates?

Was wondering the same thing.

You actually made a joke though, how is his hearing and he races for a hearing aide company:rolleyes:

Was wondering the same thing.

You actually made a joke though, how is his hearing and he races for a hearing aide company:rolleyes:

Good point! - I'll send them a bill.

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If we haven't heard anything, it does mean that he didn`t leave the hearing very happy, no?

If we haven't heard anything, it does mean that he didn`t leave the hearing very happy, no?

Unknown. I would expect some sort of press release or statement from either the governing body and/or Hamilton.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~76~2743624,00.html

It's only been one week so far.

The silence from Tyler (and Haven) could be seen as good or bad news. He's showed a reluctance to play this out in the court of public opinion and a willingness to let the wheels of justice creep along. So, he's not telling his story regarding his opinion of the hearing.
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The hearing went terrible.

Was wondering the same thing.

You actually made a joke though, how is his hearing and he races for a hearing aide company:rolleyes:

Remember? Phonak fired him. He's riding for, well, nobody right now.

The only hearing I see in the news is having to do with that idiot Michael Jackson. :mad: You'd think they could send a few reporters to hound Tyler or get somebody to leak some information or something. If he'd been accused of taking steroids, we'd probably know more.

Good Luck Tyler :)

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~76~2743624,00.html

It's only been one week so far.

The silence from Tyler (and Haven) could be seen as good or bad news. He's showed a reluctance to play this out in the court of public opinion and a willingness to let the wheels of justice creep along. So, he's not telling his story regarding his opinion of the hearing.
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The hearing went terrible.


the court's judgement is supposed to come down next Tuesday right? 15th is what I remember.

the court's judgement is supposed to come down next Tuesday right? 15th is what I remember.

Hmmm...the Ides of March. That doesn't sound good.

the court's judgement is supposed to come down next Tuesday right? 15th is what I remember.
Article Published: Friday, March 04, 2005
cycling

Hamilton expects to learn fate from hearing within two weeks

By John Henderson
Denver Post Staff Writer

Tyler Hamilton's hearing with the United States Anti-Doping Agency ended Wednesday with the Boulder cyclist testifying for two hours in an attempt to clear his name.

Howard Jacobs, Hamilton's Los Angeles-based lawyer, said Thursday he could not comment on any specific aspect of the four-day hearing but expects to hear a verdict within two weeks.

Hamilton, who finished fourth at the 2003 Tour de France, is fighting three positive tests for blood transfusions at the Athens Olympics and the Tour of Spain. He denies receiving a blood transfusion, which can increase a racer's endurance.

If three arbitrators rule against Hamilton, he could face up to a two-year racing ban. If they rule in his favor, he is expected to race in this summer's Tour de France as his Swiss-based Phonak team won its appeal with the International Cycling Union, which had suspended Phonak from the pro tour.


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"It's in the hands of the arbitrators now," Jacobs said. "They listened to the evidence, and now we just have to wait and see how they decide it."

Jacobs said the USADA called scientific experts to validate the test, which is new to sports but not to medicine. Jacobs said the experts were related to the validation of the test "but weren't authors of the validation papers."

March 9, 2005
The hearing officially took place in Denver between Sunday, February 27 and Wednesday, March 2. And although testimony is complete, the hearing is not officially "closed". The panel of three arbitrators have decided to keep the proceedings open. We are not entirely sure why, but apparently this can happen. A decision will be due ten days from the date the case officially closes. We will keep you posted.

Tyler and Haven are optimistic. Tyler is back on his bike training.

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According to Hamilton, a decision will be given 10 days from the date the case officially closes. "We will keep you posted," he wrote. "Tyler and Haven are optimistic. Tyler is back on his bike training."

I don't understand why he ever stopped training if he is so confident in his evidence. I hate to say it but I think it is over for him. With others being busted for the same doping use, and his testimony basically saying to some degree "it's not that I didn't dope it's that the way the test is done is in effect wrong" doesn't really fly. It is like getting a speeding ticket and telling the traffic judge "it isn't that I wasn't speeding, it is just that the officer may or may not have calibrated his radar correctly" LOL

am I incorrect in my interpretation?

am I incorrect in my interpretation?

I think so.
Tyler's defense isn't that he did dope but can't be convicted because the test is flawed.

Tyler's defense is that he did not dope but the test is flawed and it's wrongly saying he did dope.

To use your example, his defense is he was going the speed limit but the radar gun says he was speeding. Tyler's defense is the radar gun is broken.

What dosn't look good from my laymans perspective is I keep looking for all the other citizens lined up outside the court room with speeding tickets issued off that same broken radar gun.

That said, I'd like to see Tyler return to racing.

Scot

With others being busted for the same doping use, and his testimony basically saying to some degree "it's not that I didn't dope it's that the way the test is done is in effect wrong" doesn't really fly. It is like getting a speeding ticket and telling the traffic judge "it isn't that I wasn't speeding, it is just that the officer may or may not have calibrated his radar correctly"
I don't think this is what Tyler is saying. He's said over and over, in very clear language, that he has never doped. I think he's saying, "I absolutely didn't dope, but the arbitrators won't take my word over a laboratory test. If I'm going to clear myself I have to explain how three tests could come back with the same wrong result for me and Perez and for no one else."

If I go to the judge and say that I wasn't speeding and the officer swears that the radar gun had me doing 95 in a school zone, the judge won't take my word for it if I can't give a reason not to trust the radar gun.

The toughest thing for Hamilton is not arguing that the test might produce false positives rate, but giving some kind of plausible reason why, over and over, they happen only to him and Perez.

If this were a criminal case, I'd have a hard time sending Hamilton to prison on the basis of this evidence, but since this is not such as serious matter, I'd find the test results sufficiently persuasive unless Tyler had a very good story.

I do wish, however, that WADA would do a better job of developing scientific evidence for the reliability of their tests.

March 9, 2005. And although testimony is complete, the hearing is not officially "closed". decision will be due ten days from the date the case officially closes.

Sounds like the panel is obligated to give a ruling 10 days after closing the hearing. They wanted more wiggle room so they left the hearing open in order to give themselves more time.

Good bureaucrats move.

according to Equipe, they'll make the ruling this weekend

Thanks for the clarity guys. I appreciate the time you took to explain it as I had misunderstood the story.

Good points on why it just happens to Hamilton. Alot of people I know who are in the "loop" say they think he did it and these are people who are not careless with their words but just the same it would be an incredible vindication should the panel decide in his favor

[QUOTE=Scot_Gore]Sounds like the panel is obligated to give a ruling 10 days after closing the hearing. They wanted more wiggle room so they left the hearing open in order to give themselves more time.

Good bureaucrats move.[/QUOTEI found this today on tyler's site (it's dated 3/11/05)
Normally a case closes when the hearing ends. However my case was fairly complicated given the amount of testimony provided. So, for a number of reasons, it is still officially open. Once it closes, the arbitrators will have ten days to write an opinion. It’s difficult to wait, but I appreciate that the panel is taking its time to evaluate all sides and give careful consideration to the testimony. There is an awful lot at stake.

No ruling yet.

Scot