Now, put aside all the Lance bashing and such, and lets keep to strictly the facts.

Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of doping in either the pro ranks in Europe or lower divisions?

Please share your stories as I am eager to read some.

Please remember to not turn this thread into a member bashing party.

Thanks,

Shawn

Didn't some kid get busted awhile back in North Carolina or South Carolina for EPO not to long ago? I don't quite remember the story but I'll look around. I think he was like a Cat 2 or amature track racer or something

Oh and anyone know what's happening with David Clingers face? Is he having it removed or what? I saw the pic in Velonews and DAYUM that boy must be on drugs!!!! LOL

trolling looks a tad slow maybe you ought to try live bait.

Oh and anyone know what's happening with David Clingers face?

I think he's hoping for role in the next X-men movie.

why don't you both go play in traffic while holding hands....the whole kill two birds with one stone thing you know?

Just a suggestion.........

=))

Come On guys,
I am serious to see if anyone has been involved directly or indirectly with doping at the competitive levels.

Please, leave this thread alone and go play verbal judo elsewhere.

Come On guys,
I am serious to see if anyone has been involved directly or indirectly with doping at the competitive levels.

Please, leave this thread alone and go play verbal judo elsewhere.

My old teammate got suspended last year for 2 years for testing positive for EPO. He says he didn't do it, but then again, the test said he did. I'm not sure what to believe for certain, but the test said positive, and the suspension was upheld.

who says he's an ex racer with all the scoop yet wants to remain anonymous.
I'd say he's a good source.

Hey Aptj and Utah, I hope you both understand my comment above was in full jest. Canondale Boy made me think it could be considered serious. I thought both of your posts were quite funny especially the X-Men comment

My apologies if it was received anyother way than just a poor attempt at humor...

who says he's an ex racer with all the scoop yet wants to remain anonymous.
I'd say he's a good source.

I'd say he wasn't a good source, as he is anonymous, like most of us, and without proof, all he really has is maybe what he saw, or maybe what he thought he saw and all. It was probably DeCanio, and he sees dopers around every corner and or on every team. So take it with a grain of salt. At least with my former teammate, he had 2 positive tests. That is about as conclusive as it gets.

my remark was basked in sarcasm. we need an emoticon to indicate such. I mean heck, I'm a ex pro racer from Belgium, I have all the info. I'm gonna change my handle to Pot Belge

my remark was basked in sarcasm. we need an emoticon to indicate such. I mean heck, I'm a ex pro racer from Belgium, I have all the info. I'm gonna change my handle to Pot Belge

You must understand that when I switch over to the "regular" forums from PO, I tend to switch off the BS detector...

follows me like a lost puppy

maybe we need a dope conspiracy theorist forum?

or sore loser forum.

like I've always said you can't be that anti anybody unless you are equally pro one of their rivals. I just like Bike racing but slag Merckx or Coppi and I'll put on my gloves.
not really