View Full Version : What is the difference between the Allez pro and S-works frames?


freezin_is_the_reason
03-19-2004, 02:23 PM
Just looking at them casually, they would seem to be the same frame. But there must be some justification to them making the differentiation between the two.

Sirius
03-19-2004, 02:54 PM
Just looking at them casually, they would seem to be the same frame. But there must be some justification to them making the differentiation between the two.
I thought it was the tubing but I just got back my my LBS and the Allez Pro they have has a sticker that has "E5" on it and I thought that was the difference. I'm am not so sure now.

glia
03-22-2004, 05:07 PM
I have a 2003 S-Works Sapone and a 2002 Alez Pro SLX; both E5 material. The welding is a little different and the tubing shape is different. Top tube and front down tube are not round in diameter on the S-works but more areo, they are round on the Alez Pro. Weight is very similar; my Alez Pro has a normal seatpost binder where the S-works has the wedge shaped compression device. Most importantly, the S-works has a headtube that is 10mm shorter than the Alez at the same 56 size. Hence the geometry is a little different and you lay a little lower in your overall position. It took me a while to figure this out as I was trying to achieve the same seatoing position on both bikes. Also, the Alez Pro comes with a C3 composite fork, the S-works comes with a full carbon C4 fork.
When all was set and done, I have never been able to go as fast on my Alez Pro build out with similar compponents and using the same wheels than on my S-works. No, its not just in my mind! I am actually measuring power output at the chain and with the same power on the chain, I go about 0.5mile/h faster on the S-works bike. Position... I don;t know. Was trying to make them as similar as possible. If you are starting from scratch and are just getting a frame, go on Ebay and get the S-works frame! The better fork is almost worth the exta $200 for the frame. I use the Alex Pro as a backup bike and have it on the trainer all winter. I also take it on trips. Its a bit too good as a beater bike but it clearly does not perform as well as the S-works. On the positive side, the silver/black frame of the Pro looks very nice and very grown up! I actually prefer the looks of the Alez Pro over the S-works. I guess the 2004 S-works comes closer but is still not as sharp as the Alez Pro SLX.

freezin_is_the_reason
03-27-2004, 08:53 AM
But after reading your post, I actually went to the Specialized web site and compared geometry between the two frames. And there is a difference. As you stated, the headtube is 10mm shorter on the S-works bike. The wheelbase is also 5 mm shorter, and the standover height is actually 4mm less. Minor little changes, but I am sure that they are noticeable while riding. These measurements were taken off of the 52cm frame size. I chose it as that is the size frame that I ride. Seems that the Allez, would be a bit more of a comfortable bike with the taller head tube. I run spacers on mine as it is so the S-works would just make me add 1cm more of spacers and I would recieve no aero benefit from the shorter headtube. The shorter wheelbase would make for a more nimble and quicker handling bike. That is about the only benefit that I could see for a rec rider like myself.