team_sheepshead
04-22-2005, 06:57 AM
Possibly looking for a new racing frame. As my races get longer, my all alu race frame is starting to beat me up a little bit.
Who makes a very light frame with an alu/carbon mix?
Thanks.
The Human G-Nome
04-22-2005, 07:39 AM
There's probably 100 companies that make an aluminum frame with carbon stays or rear triangle. In truth, it's pretty debatable whether the carbon stays do much of anything to smooth out your ride. They may slightly decrease road buzz, but they will do nothing at all do lessen the jarring effect of potholes and larger bumps. Also, wheels, tires, saddle, etc. tend to have a lot more to do with rider comfort then many frames will.
BTW, the Cane Creek Aros Superlight carbon wheels with titanium spokes provides the plushest ride by far of any wheelset i've ever ridden.
merckxman
04-22-2005, 02:25 PM
No need to look further.
Possibly looking for a new racing frame. As my races get longer, my all alu race frame is starting to beat me up a little bit.
Who makes a very light frame with an alu/carbon mix?
Thanks.
SDizzle
04-22-2005, 07:20 PM
FYI - all things being equal, carbon stays add at least a quarter to a half a pound of weight to a frame of any material. Even a steel frame completely built of steel is lighter than the same frame with carbon stays, for no benefit in the latter. Obviously, a complete aluminum frame stands to be much lighter.
weiwentg
04-22-2005, 08:02 PM
FYI - all things being equal, carbon stays add at least a quarter to a half a pound of weight to a frame of any material. Even a steel frame completely built of steel is lighter than the same frame with carbon stays, for no benefit in the latter. Obviously, a complete aluminum frame stands to be much lighter.
the logical conclusion, therefore, is to look for a carbon frame. the Giant TCR Composite is well designed, and a Composite 2 is around $2100 with Ultegra 10.
Kerry Irons
04-23-2005, 11:16 AM
all things being equal, carbon stays add at least a quarter to a half a pound of weight to a frame of any material.
Agreed that, due to the joining process, mixed material frames are heavier than single material frames. However, the numbers are more like a 60 gm penalty than 225 gm penalty. I suppose that 60 gm is not that THAT frar from 1/4 lb.