At least this time it wasn't a collie. Saturday morning at the weekly hammerfest descending a short downhill after the "water tower sprint" at about 37mph , a dog hopped out, and as soon as the words "dog" was heard, the guy I was drafting swerved and the dog vaporized out of nowhere. Front wheel rolled over it, but as back wheel went over, my front wheel turned and there I went... kablam. I haven't wrecked like this in some time, but to answer your questions. Overall, Im fine.... hitting the collie in 1992 was much more impressive. Totaled a bike, 21 stitches, chipped bone, etc. This time just really bad rash, bruises, sore neck and back, smashed helmet, etc. The bike,. strangely enough, came through with only a scratched seat and shifter.

So, I have a few questions for those of you in the know.

1. For road rash (its everywhere,hands, arms, legs, sholders and back)... instead of scabbing over black or dark brown from blood, several are instead more of a crystaline yellow. Normal or not?

2. Helmet was flattened on the back, they determined no concussion, am taking percoset and having moments of dizzyness. Is that a side effect of the percoset?

3. Owner of the dog came out and asked if she would have to pay for my bike. I didnt speak to her, all I really need to continue riding is a new helmet, but should I even address that? Her dog was in the road where there is a leash law, should I just chalk this up as a part of riding, or should I get what reimbursement that I can? At minimum... if the dog lived, I would like her to lock the stupid dog up from 7:30 to 8:30 every saturday morning so it doesn't happen to me or the other riders, cause the dog clearly does not have the sense to move.

4. Who has the RBR record of the most dog induced crashes?


Lesson learned: Wear gloves. I've had a decent spell without serious incident, and took it for granted and had not been wearing gloves. Bad move, my right palm is hamburger. So, anyway.... watch out on the roads, and be wary.

For #1, yes, I've seen the yellow crystaline scabbing. Just make certain there is not an infection forming under the scab. I've had infections under scabs before and it's tough to even know it when it's hidden like that.

For #2, I'm not familiar with percoset

For #3, it's up to you. Me, I'm normally too nice about such things. Mainly because the little bit of money I would of gotten is not worth the hassle of pursuing. It sounds like you have doctor bills to deal with. Maybe her homeowners insurance should be paying those instead of your insurance (and deductables).

4. No dog induced crashes. Plenty of dog induced sprints. Watched one stupid dog go thump thump under the wheels of an oncoming car tring to get me. Got bit twice, but never wrecked due to a dog.


So, I have a few questions for those of you in the know.

1. For road rash (its everywhere,hands, arms, legs, sholders and back)... instead of scabbing over black or dark brown from blood, several are instead more of a crystaline yellow. Normal or not?

2. Helmet was flattened on the back, they determined no concussion, am taking percoset and having moments of dizzyness. Is that a side effect of the percoset?

3. Owner of the dog came out and asked if she would have to pay for my bike. I didnt speak to her, all I really need to continue riding is a new helmet, but should I even address that? Her dog was in the road where there is a leash law, should I just chalk this up as a part of riding, or should I get what reimbursement that I can? At minimum... if the dog lived, I would like her to lock the stupid dog up from 7:30 to 8:30 every saturday morning so it doesn't happen to me or the other riders, cause the dog clearly does not have the sense to move.

4. Who has the RBR record of the most dog induced crashes?


Lesson learned: Wear gloves. I've had a decent spell without serious incident, and took it for granted and had not been wearing gloves. Bad move, my right palm is hamburger. So, anyway.... watch out on the roads, and be wary.

Sorry to hear about the crash. Irresponsible dog owners are the worst. My dog loves people and other dogs, and would run at anyone given the chance (to play), so he is never loose outside the house or yard.

For the rash, sounds pretty normal. I don't know if you're aware, but the trend in recent years is toward moist wound care, rather than letting the traditional drying out/scabbing over process take its course. Do a Google search on moist wound care for more info.

I was reminded of the value of gloves the other day when I missed a gutter transition and went down at slow speed. My glove was pretty shredded, but my hand had only a small abrasion on one knuckle.

Jim

Quote: "3. Owner of the dog came out and asked if she would have to pay for my bike. I didnt speak to her, all I really need to continue riding is a new helmet, but should I even address that? Her dog was in the road where there is a leash law, should I just chalk this up as a part of riding, or should I get what reimbursement that I can? At minimum... if the dog lived, I would like her to lock the stupid dog up from 7:30 to 8:30 every saturday morning so it doesn't happen to me or the other riders, cause the dog clearly does not have the sense to move."

I would definitely get what reimbursement you can. This dog-owner's negligence caused you pain and damage. You can bet if the tables were turned you'd be getting sued.

I'm not suggesting you take undue advantage of the situation, but you should be compensated for your pain, any medical treatment, time off work if it is involved and any damage to you or the bike.

I am one of those people who are strongly against frivolous law suits. I believe one should take responsibilities for one's actions. That is is why I believe you should make the dog owner pay in this situation. I'm not saying you should sue for a ridiculous amount of money, but you should make a point that by her not controlling her dog, it caused you to be injured as well as damage to your equipment. This would be more about making a point rather than making money. Think about it, you could have been injured even worse or even killed. If this happens again to another person, that person may not be as lucky to walk away with just injuries. Make her take responsibilty for her negligence. But don't take advantage of the situation.



At least this time it wasn't a collie. Saturday morning at the weekly hammerfest descending a short downhill after the "water tower sprint" at about 37mph , a dog hopped out, and as soon as the words "dog" was heard, the guy I was drafting swerved and the dog vaporized out of nowhere. Front wheel rolled over it, but as back wheel went over, my front wheel turned and there I went... kablam. I haven't wrecked like this in some time, but to answer your questions. Overall, Im fine.... hitting the collie in 1992 was much more impressive. Totaled a bike, 21 stitches, chipped bone, etc. This time just really bad rash, bruises, sore neck and back, smashed helmet, etc. The bike,. strangely enough, came through with only a scratched seat and shifter.

So, I have a few questions for those of you in the know.

1. For road rash (its everywhere,hands, arms, legs, sholders and back)... instead of scabbing over black or dark brown from blood, several are instead more of a crystaline yellow. Normal or not?

2. Helmet was flattened on the back, they determined no concussion, am taking percoset and having moments of dizzyness. Is that a side effect of the percoset?

3. Owner of the dog came out and asked if she would have to pay for my bike. I didnt speak to her, all I really need to continue riding is a new helmet, but should I even address that? Her dog was in the road where there is a leash law, should I just chalk this up as a part of riding, or should I get what reimbursement that I can? At minimum... if the dog lived, I would like her to lock the stupid dog up from 7:30 to 8:30 every saturday morning so it doesn't happen to me or the other riders, cause the dog clearly does not have the sense to move.

4. Who has the RBR record of the most dog induced crashes?


Lesson learned: Wear gloves. I've had a decent spell without serious incident, and took it for granted and had not been wearing gloves. Bad move, my right palm is hamburger. So, anyway.... watch out on the roads, and be wary.

I agree with 2Cycle.
I'm not promoting money-making; just fair compensation and a fair and just outcome.

They should let you spank the owner as well.

Hmm? Spanking? That would only be worth it if she is hot. Just kidding.



I agree with 2Cycle.
I'm not promoting money-making; just fair compensation and a fair and just outcome.

They should let you spank the owner as well.

No dog induced crashes. Plenty of dog induced sprints. Watched one stupid dog go thump thump under the wheels of an oncoming car tring to get me. Got bit twice, but never wrecked due to a dog.

If I could sprint in a race like I sprinted to get away from the German Shephard that chased me up a hill a few months back, I'd be leading the points right now.

Glad you are ok. Try a product called tegaderm. It's like artificial skin. Road rash will heal quick with that. Sounds to me like an appropriate response from the owner. Did you go over the bike really carefully? Wheels true, etc. I bent a frame once on a racoon. No owners to hold accountable on that one. :(

I think its more scary afterwards. You know what is funny, I almost think it better to wreck just out of the blue like that. The ones I hate are the ones you see coming, you know, when you lock up your brakes on wet pavement and just sense it coming, or you see some squirelly rider go buy you and nearly wreck you, wriggle up and wreck someone else just two bikes in front of you and you try like the dickens to get out of it, then someone whacks into you. Those are the ones that are the scariest, I think. With this one I was more pissed.

The Look frame "looks" really straight, there is nary a scrape on it. It got one shifter on the top, and functions fine, it got the side of a brand new saddle, but somehow did NOT get the pedal on that side. I am a "little" concerned with the handlebars, as they are CF as well, but dont really know how or where to look for cracks or feathering. I guess I could undo the tape, but have not yet. I will say that the Ksyriums SLs are pretty bomb proof. They look almost straight. The front has a minute, minute , minute sway, but who knows, this set is at least 2 full seasons old. Granted, I rolled OVER the thing with the front wheel, its the back wheel that tipped me over....anyway blah. I hate wrecks and am okay with it, its just one of those things.

2. Helmet was flattened on the back, they determined no concussion, am taking percoset and having moments of dizzyness. Is that a side effect of the percoset?
Did you really need the percocet? The pain that bad? I'd have to be in some awful pain before I took that stuff. Oxycodone. Nuff said...

Yes it can cause dizziness, but so can getting your bell wrung in a bike crash. Obviously if off the percocet for a while and it's still there, time to get a further examination, cat scan, MRI or something. The head ain't nothing to mess with.

More info on the Percocet beast: http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html

funk

Happy to hear you are overall OK, just sore as all get out.

Make her pay for the damages. Check to see if that dog is out again and if it is, call the powers that be if there is a leash law. BTW-I would have called for sure when the incident happened. I call if there is a dog induced sprint around here. I ride the same roads alot and I don't need Spot waiting for me every afternoon. What happened was way worse than a bite!! If he bit you would you call?

Percoset is a pretty strong medication, yes it can indeed cause dizziness and sleepiness. Make sure you are OK to drive with it before you do.

Heal quick.

DOGS...aaaauuugghhh...bad owners make me sick.

got a fair amount of road rash.. it hurts!! but percocet is strong stuff I took over the counter pain killers.. just read a thread on this site about road rash and stuff for it . article referred you to an article published in Velonews by an MD on how to best fix road rash, tegaderm was mentioned as the best stuff..you should get that womans' homeowners insurance to buy you a new helmet and have LBS check out you ride.. could have tweaked the frame..get well quick..good riding..

Your lucky. That the dog owner was willing to be responsible. I passed a guy on our local bike path and he had three dogs running loose. When I passed him I said theres a leash law. He told me " up yours" what a dick. I run into *******s like him all the time. I would of asked for compensation and filed a complaint for breaking the leash laws.

Did you really need the percocet? The pain that bad? I'd have to be in some awful pain before I took that stuff. Oxycodone. Nuff said...

Yes it can cause dizziness, but so can getting your bell wrung in a bike crash. Obviously if off the percocet for a while and it's still there, time to get a further examination, cat scan, MRI or something. The head ain't nothing to mess with.

More info on the Percocet beast: http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html

I agree, mostly. Typical dose is 1 or 2 every 4-6 hours as needed for pain. If you're having dizzy spells, try taking 1 (if you're taking 2.). If one doesn't cut it and two seems a bit much, try taking one with 25 mg of benedryl. Benedryl potentiates the narcotic effect--i.e., it makes it a bit stronger--so it might help to split the difference. You might also try taking the pills w/ food. This will slow down the med uptake a bit....won't help, though, once you've absorbed all the med.

You could just be very sensitive to narcotics. Lucky you. I've got a large narcotic tolerance.....so the 2 percocet that I take every 4 hours don't really do much. If I take 4 every 4 hours then I get nice relief, but then the script doesn't last as long.

You can always ring up the doc and ask for something less strong: Darvocet, Tylenol#3, Vicodin (for some people, anyway), and so on.

Drink lots of water whilst taking the narcs: while they provide a nice happy feeling, free of pain, they are also very good at turning poop into a concrete like substance. FWIW, once after having a rod installed in me lower leg, I went 7 days w/out shitting....a personal record. Then, on the 7th day, the voiding was....uhm.....less than pleasant.

As was also mentioned, wacking your head could account for some of the dizziness. Concussion is kind of a broad diagnosis, having symptoms that can be sort of vague. It's still possible that you could have a concussion, even though you may not have been symptomatic the day you were seen by the doc. Also, like the kid said in the movie: "it could be a tumor." heh.

As for the roadrash, most everyone is right. Roadrash is a burn, and roadrash that is healing can look all sorts of different funky ways. Watch for increased redness, pain, and if the wound starts to get warm/hot to the touch, call the doc. If you're dressing the wound Tegraderm is nice, as is Adaptic, which is a vaseline gauze which does not stick to wounds. I always keep Adaptic 'round the house, cuz having dressings that are easy to remove makes changing the dressings and maintaining good wound care an easier and more likely thing to happen.

If you don't go after the lady, your insurance company will. At some point they'll send you something asking you to tell them what happened, and if anyone was at fault.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Fortunately all the dogs on my rides are in enclosed yards or chained up.

In regard to having the owner pay up: I agree with the others. At least she should pay for a new helmet and a thorough going over of your bike at the LBS.

Tegederm is great stuff for road rash. Wounds heal best by epithelialization, meaning that the new skin grows in from the edges. It needs a clean, moist environment to do so. Tegederm is like clear sticky seran wrap that you apply over the wound. You can see through it. It will probably lift off over the wound area and fill with clear yellow fluid. Having a moist area over the wound will help the new skin grow in quicker and also make it less painful. Make sure you put a large enough piece on to cover the wound completely, with a good margin all the way around. Put it on after a shower when the surrounding skin is dry and the scab/wound is moist. If you can, get some Tincture of Benzoin and apply it to the surrounding skin, this will help the tegederm stick around the edges better and be less likely to peel off. Keep an eye on the surrounding skin to check for cellulitis (redness of the skin). This could signify an infection.

About the percocet: Percocet is one of the strongest oral narcotics available, probably second only to Oxycontin (what Rush Limbaugh got hooked on) It has a significant addiction potential, so be very careful with it. It can cause "dizzines" (light-headedness) and sleepiness. Don't drive while taking it. If your "dizziness" is more a sensation of the room spinning, then this is a different matter. Sometimes with a hard jolt to the head the organs in the inner ear can get damaged. This can cause a spinning sensation. Bottom line: if the symptoms persist, see your doctor. Be sure to differentiate between light-headedness and vertigo (room spinning) when talking about "dizziness".

Good luck and heal up fast. Le me know if you have any more questions.

John