View Full Version : Steel total chrome GIOS


cagdas
06-07-2005, 04:26 AM
What do you guys think, should I buy it? It has campagnolo chorus finish.

merckxman
06-07-2005, 04:28 AM
Be different.

cagdas
06-07-2005, 07:41 AM
Actually mine question is does anybody know which year this bike is made??
Fullchrome is that an good idea to buy second hand??

Henry Chinaski
06-07-2005, 09:14 AM
I'm guessing early 90s. Buy it if it fits and is cheap and if you like it.

takmanjapan
06-08-2005, 03:41 AM
virtually all Gios I have seen have the compact and removable rear drop outs. This one does not. The other thing to check out would be the seat stay caps for engravings or on the BB shell or dropouts. If not, could be a scam....

Would look nice with a little GIOS blue on it though...

TakmanJapan

boneman
06-08-2005, 05:56 AM
I own a 1975 Gios Torino which I bought from their US distributor at that time, Cortina Cycles, and have been following the marque since 1974. Contrary to takmanjapan's comment, Gios original production of roadbikes for Brooklyn beginning around 1972 and through today, included models with standard 'long' adjustable rear drop outs.

For me, there's something odd about this bike. Based on the running gear, the rear triangle is 130mm, unless it was a 126mm and then cold set to 130mm. Production in that era included two water bottle mounts. This one has one.

The front derailleur mount is braze-on, indicating a later model and yet it only has braze-ons for one water bottle indicating an earlier model. The gear cables go under the bottom bracket indicating a later model (which wouldn't have the milled 'gt' logo cut in the bottom bracket).

The earliest Gios' had a semi-sloping fork crown with the 'gt' logo milled into the top plates. Later on, they went to the flat fork crown with the coin inserts, then the unicrown and then back to the semi-sloping. I can't tell from the pics except that the fork crown is semi-sloping.

Most Gios' with the adjustable (not compact) drop outs had the mating surfaces of the drop outs drilled, a signature mark of Alfredo on those models. The cap plates on the seat stays were not flat but curved which looks about right in the pictures although I've seen later models with flat cap plates. The rear brake cable treatment indicates a later model.

I've only seen a few full-chrome Gios' in 30 years and one was a show model. This could be one explaining the single water bottle mounts. You might email Alfredo at Gios to ask. I visited the plant last year, outside of Milano. His English is excellent and he is quite friendly so it's worth a shot.

I have a bunch of Gios jpg's at home, mostly of pre-flat crowned models and later production doesn't interest me but I'll see if I can come up with anything more.

virtually all Gios I have seen have the compact and removable rear drop outs. This one does not. The other thing to check out would be the seat stay caps for engravings or on the BB shell or dropouts. If not, could be a scam....

Would look nice with a little GIOS blue on it though...

TakmanJapan

FishrCutB8
06-08-2005, 06:05 AM
Elegant simplicity. I love this bike!

moschika
06-08-2005, 02:39 PM
what you have there is a Gios "Professional" They began production of those in 1984. There should be a serial number on the bb shell. you could email Gios with it and they'll give you a year. The internal cable routing along the top-tube, seat-stay caps and fork crown all fit the "Pro" MO. You'll need to get blue panels, blue or white(can't tell) "Pro" decal, Columbus SL decal and it looks like you're missing the little rubber bits for the top tube. There's a set of blue panels on ebay now, the "pro" decal is a bit harder to find but I may have one I could sell you(you only need 1, i made some reproductions for one i was working on), the columbus decal pops up on ebay often too.

I say buy it and enjoy a great classic bike.

here's a pic I got from here with this model in a few other colors. they came in red, I used to have one of those :(
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/gios-small/2.jpg

boneman
06-08-2005, 03:40 PM
I figured you'd post eventually. But was the rear spacing 130mm. I don't think so although it really doesn't matter. Ever get your partner's bike (wrecked Gios) sorted out?

what you have there is a Gios "Professional" They began production of those in 1984. There should be a serial number on the bb shell. you could email Gios with it and they'll give you a year. The internal cable routing along the top-tube, seat-stay caps and fork crown all fit the "Pro" MO. You'll need to get blue panels, blue or white(can't tell) "Pro" decal, Columbus SL decal and it looks like you're missing the little rubber bits for the top tube. There's a set of blue panels on ebay now, the "pro" decal is a bit harder to find but I may have one I could sell you(you only need 1, i made some reproductions for one i was working on), the columbus decal pops up on ebay often too.

I say buy it and enjoy a great classic bike.

here's a pic I got from here with this model in a few other colors. they came in red, I used to have one of those :(
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/gios-small/2.jpg

moschika
06-08-2005, 04:02 PM
I figured you'd post eventually. But was the rear spacing 130mm. I don't think so although it really doesn't matter. Ever get your partner's bike (wrecked Gios) sorted out?

i would guess it was really 126 but a modern 105 9sp. rear hub fit fine. 4mm or 2mm either side is pretty negligible i think.

as for the wrecked gios, it's toast. the top and down tubes were crumpled and the fork was damaged. at least she was ok. much easier to replace a bike then a body.

brewster
06-09-2005, 05:42 AM
So you know, there is some mixing of parts going on there. That appears to be an Athena crank, Chorus monoplanar brakes, vintage 89/90/91 era, and some ergo levers that were probably added later. Still, if you can get it for cheap, it would make a nice resto project.