Looking for a lightweight set of wheels, that can hold up to daily training mileage, and possible rain, etc.

150 pound rider, experienced, so I'm pretty light over potholes, etc.

I'm a gram counter, but don't want a headache either, so "reasonably" light.

Boutique wheels aren't an option, cost too much, not enough bang for the buck.

Any ideas to get me started?

-10k

check ebay

try this guy: www.oddsandendos.com

Mavic Open Pros/Velocity Aeroheads
Dura Ace hubs (or Campy Centaur/Chorus if that's your thing)
DT Revolution spokes laced 3x

Excel Sports has this in a packaged wheelset called the Cirrus with the DA hubs and OP's. They just got more expensive though, I think they are now $350 or so. For more bang, substitute 14/15 spokes for the Revos' and Ultegra hubs for the DA - this should get you well into the $200's.

How light do you need to go? These certainly will be reasonably light by most people's definition and reliable as well. At your weight, you could definitely go 28 spoke on the front to save a few more grams.

try this guy: www.oddsandendos.com

Mike Garcia must be busy. I sent an email 8 days ago in regard to an unhappy customer who posted on the newsgroup about 2 bad oddsandendo wheelsets. Sent things back, still bad quality.

No one is perfect, but the guys 0-for-2 experience is something to think about.

I've used Mike about 3 times before, no problems. He built me up an experimental set for my MTB once before as well, it was wicked light, and he was a pleasure to deal with.

I like 3x spoke lacing, seems to hold up forever, DA hubs are heavy, but good old reliable for what i'm wanting to do. I was wondering if there were options other than OP's though, they are everywhere (for a reason of course). Don't wanna go too light with the rims though.

When I say light, i mean easily under 1700 grams, i'd like 1600 though, sub 1500 would be really nice, but i don't know how reliable that would be in rain/bad roads, etc.

When I say light, i mean easily under 1700 grams, i'd like 1600 though, sub 1500 would be really nice, but i don't know how reliable that would be in rain/bad roads, etc.
How much do you want to spend? Under 1500 grams, you will have a somewhat difficult time keeping the wheelset thrifty. You could get into that range with Hugi or AmClassic hubs, CX-Ray spokes (probably no more than 28) and a pretty light rim, but that will start getting into some serious cash.

Looking for a lightweight set of wheels, that can hold up to daily training mileage, and possible rain, etc.

150 pound rider, experienced, so I'm pretty light over potholes, etc.

I'm a gram counter, but don't want a headache either, so "reasonably" light.

Boutique wheels aren't an option, cost too much, not enough bang for the buck.

Any ideas to get me started?

-10k

Daily use... training milage... how much maintenance are you into???

Get it heavier than you think reasonable; the pothole that gives you a flat and bangs your rim is the one you don't see. That's the one you need to plan for. They come along far more frequently than you wish...

there's a reason why DA hubs w OP rims are popular. As you said, don't ignore it...

wheels. Built a dynamite set for $350 and have about a thousand miles on them so far with no problems at all. They weigh about 1500 grams, just about the same as my SLs!

Though these days it has become fashionable to not like Mavic Ksyriums, I don't think you can beat them for durability. I weighed 195 pounds for most of the time I had my first set of Ksyrium SSC's and never had to true them once. In fact I put over 9000 miles on them and never did a thing to them except to replace the bearings right before I sold them on ebay for more than I origionally paid for them. I bought them for $350 from sdeals.com and sold them for $420 last christmas. Not a bad investment. So buck the "you can get lighter handmade" in crowd and hop on the reliable bandwagon.

Alex Rim R400, 400g. AC hubs 288g (pair), DT Rev 180g (20F/24R), Alu nipples 14g.

A whopping 1282g! Bear in mind, AC hubs don't come with seals! You are fine with 20F and 24R in my opinion. You can swap the hubs and even with that you get a pretty decent wheelset, probably around the 1.4kg mark.

Regards,
Sean

It's not that I don't like Ksyriums, I don't like paying more for something that isn't any better than a good old custom build. Sure, they are nice, but it's hard to find them for even CLOSE to the same price as a good custom build, even if you go used off of ebay. Then god knows what was really done to them.

I've been anti-pre built wheels ever since they came out, just doesn't make sense to me. If I could get a set of K's for 200 bucks though, sure, why not.

So, Ks are good according to people who don't ride them anymore.

Find a local builder who stands by his product and get 32h DB 3X wheels made.

I just picked up a pair of wheels for my wife from Mike. Super cool to deal with. I bought the cheapest ones on the web site. At $299 shipped with one extra spoke and nipple that is used it was a great deal. Seems like a nice set. Front weighed 565grams and the rear 890 grams. Built with his speedcific hubs. I posted pictures 2 weeks ago.

I just picked up a pair of wheels for my wife from Mike. Super cool to deal with. I bought the cheapest ones on the web site. At $299 shipped with one extra spoke and nipple that is used it was a great deal. Seems like a nice set. Front weighed 565grams and the rear 890 grams. Built with his speedcific hubs. I posted pictures 2 weeks ago.

That's the set the concerned newsgroup poster was referring to. Said it was sent back and came back bad, again. He did not bad mouth Mike, and knew of his awesome reputation, but he was just DONE with the speedcific experience.

So, Ks are good according to people who don't ride them anymore.

Find a local builder who stands by his product and get 32h DB 3X wheels made.

Actually I do still ride them. I sold the SSC's for a set of SL's. I got rid of the SSC's to buy a set of nimble crosswinds as my race wheels. No since having two sets of wheels so close in performance and the Nimbles are great for TT's.