Beware of the to good to be true Tiphoon offer from cyclocross. The bike went from Mississippi to London. When I offered to have a good friend living in london pay for and pick up the bike, surprise, surprise, communication ended. There is another tiphoon listed - 2001, $1750. I spoke to the seller on several occasion - he lives in LA as do I. He seems legit and a nice guy too. I never test rode his bike but he did offer - I settled for a new Santo from the LBS.