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spyderman 03-31-2006, 08:18 AM Testimony today has proven that the President broke the law.
The two arguments the President has put forth don't hold water:
1. Article II
2. Congress authority to use force.
The President broke the law.
atpjunkie 03-31-2006, 08:29 AM in the house and senate because they have no concern for the law, just their party's power.
Remember it was Bush Sr. who told Nixon to beat it. So sad too see how far the party has fallen in such short time.
il sogno 03-31-2006, 09:45 AM Testimony today has proven that the President broke the law.
The two arguments the President has put forth don't hold water:
1. Article II
2. Congress authority to use force.
The President broke the law.
The second British memo that was leaked this week has really put him in a bad spot. Wonder why it hasn't made the news.
rocco 03-31-2006, 01:09 PM The second British memo that was leaked this week has really put him in a bad spot. Wonder why it hasn't made the news.
Hey, it was up to Saddam whether we invaded Iraq or not unless it was March 10th. That's fair enough isn't it?
spyderman 03-31-2006, 01:50 PM Well, the censure is about the FISA law and Bush's Spying on America.
Dean's testimony was powerful.
If Congress just changes the FISA law without censuring the President, then they will have set a precedent that will ultimately lead to a dictatorship. Right now, Bush is signing bills with a clause effectively saying he will follow the law at his discretion. This is what happened with McCain torture legislation.
The issues over the war will lead to his ultimate impeachment in '07.
rocco 03-31-2006, 01:56 PM Well, the censure is about the FISA law and Bush's Spying on America.
Dean's testimony was powerful.
If Congress just changes the FISA law without censuring the President, then they will have set a precedent that will ultimately lead to a dictatorship. Right now, Bush is signing bills with a clause effectively saying he will follow the law at his discretion. This is what happened with McCain torture legislation.
The issues over the war will lead to his ultimate impeachment in '07.
Sorry... I'm mixing together Bush's long list craptacular deeds.
rufus 03-31-2006, 03:28 PM The second British memo that was leaked this week has really put him in a bad spot. Wonder why it hasn't made the news.
have i missed something interesting? do you have a link for this?
did you guys hear, the Saudis want to develop nukes. now why isn't the administration making big threatening speeches against them?
il sogno 03-31-2006, 04:53 PM have i missed something interesting? do you have a link for this?
did you guys hear, the Saudis want to develop nukes. now why isn't the administration making big threatening speeches against them?
Here's and excerpt and link. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/31/senate.censure.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- John W. Dean, Richard Nixon's White House lawyer, told senators Friday that President Bush's domestic spying exceeds the wrongdoing that toppled his former boss.
Bush, Dean told the Senate Judiciary Committee, should be censured and possibly impeached.
"Had the Senate or House, or both, censured or somehow warned Richard Nixon, the tragedy of Watergate might have been prevented," Dean told the Senate Judiciary Committee. "Hopefully the Senate will not sit by while even more serious abuses unfold before it."
rufus 03-31-2006, 06:13 PM i meant about the british memo. is this the one where he wanted to paint a spyplane Un colors, or is this something else that i missed?
anyway, you gotta know you're a scumbag if you've got John Dean taking you to task for criminal acts.
il sogno 03-31-2006, 06:19 PM i meant about the british memo. is this the one where he wanted to paint a spyplane Un colors, or is this something else that i missed?
anyway, you gotta know you're a scumbag if you've got John Dean taking you to task for criminal acts.
Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. Where he and Blair were talking about how we'll prolly never find WMD's in Iraq. Then Bush sends Colin Powell to the UN to plead the case for WMD's in Iraq.
rocco 03-31-2006, 08:05 PM Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. Where he and Blair were talking about how we'll prolly never find WMD's in Iraq. Then Bush sends Colin Powell to the UN to plead the case for WMD's in Iraq.
That's the one that had March 10th penciled in for the invasion.
Snakebit 04-01-2006, 02:58 AM It may have legs but it is still a cripple, to coin a phrase. Democrats talk about it but none want to make a public comittment. It's a losing issue and will fade away with the other liberal wet dreams that are so popular for a time.
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