View Full Version : Caribou Coffee owned by terrorists???
CarbonFrame 04-08-2006, 06:35 AM Does anyone know anything about this? When I first heard about it I went to the caribou website and there was a link to the bank that owned them, it was the First Bank of Islam.I clicked on the link and it took me to the banks home page where it explained the banks ideology which included the support of "Fundamental Islamic Values". Since then the link is no longer on the Caribou website. The bank that now owns them is listed and I traced them back to the First Bank of Islam again.It would not surprise me if it were true...Seems like a perfect way to poke us in the eye, letting our lavish lifestyle fund future attacks. I steer clear of Caribou now and so do the folks I work with. Was just wondering if anyone else knew more on this issue?
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/caribou.asp
colker1 04-08-2006, 07:18 AM move it to PO forum.
firstrax 04-08-2006, 07:59 AM I wish we had one here to steer clear of. All I have in town is Dunkin Donuts.
RocketDog 04-08-2006, 08:05 AM nevermind.
dr hoo 04-08-2006, 08:28 AM Do you think Islam = terrorist?
odeum 04-08-2006, 08:34 AM this is the same mindset as an islamist believing WTC occupants=infidels.
(not representitive of all those associated w/islam)
we see this time after time in the us, not comprehending the shoe is on the other foot.
who are the extremists again?
Do you think Islam = terrorist?
spyderman 04-08-2006, 09:00 AM Does anyone know anything about this? When I first heard about it I went to the caribou website and there was a link to the bank that owned them, it was the First Bank of Islam.I clicked on the link and it took me to the banks home page where it explained the banks ideology which included the support of "Fundamental Islamic Values". Since then the link is no longer on the Caribou website. The bank that now owns them is listed and I traced them back to the First Bank of Islam again.It would not surprise me if it were true...Seems like a perfect way to poke us in the eye, letting our lavish lifestyle fund future attacks. I steer clear of Caribou now and so do the folks I work with. Was just wondering if anyone else knew more on this issue?
Are you serious?
rocco 04-08-2006, 10:10 AM I brew my coffee at home. I have to save my money for that $2.90+ per gallon gas of which a substantial chunk comes form one of those fundamental Islamic countries...
Mel Erickson 04-08-2006, 11:05 AM Yeah, what's a good merican to do? I roast my own beans and brew my own coffee. How can I participate in this boycott?
CarbonFrame 04-08-2006, 11:27 AM Are you serious?
Yes, I am serious that I don't go there anymore. I don't know if it is linked to terrorism but if it is.. I don't want to help fund it.
rocco 04-08-2006, 11:29 AM Yeah, what's a good merican to do? I roast my own beans and brew my own coffee. How can I participate in this boycott?
Wow you roast your own coffee beans? I only buy New Mexico Piņon Coffee from Trader Joe's. Grinding the beans, boiling the water and pouring everything into the French press is all I can handle in the morning. ...that is until I've had my coffee fix. Now what's this about a boycott?
CarbonFrame 04-08-2006, 01:10 PM http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/caribou.asp
Thanks for the info. Good to know that were not contributing to our own demise.
jgsjr 04-08-2006, 02:13 PM Yes, I am serious that I don't go there anymore. I don't know if it is linked to terrorism but if it is.. I don't want to help fund it.
Stop buying gas...Middle East Oil producing nations are linked to terrorism.
Live Steam 04-09-2006, 06:12 AM Your thoughts on the Dubai Ports deal?
Mel Erickson 04-09-2006, 06:45 AM Roasting is great! Green beans cost $5-7 a pound, plus shipping. We get ours from Sweet Marias. They've got a great selection and are very knowledgeable. We use an iRoast 2 roaster which roasts a batch in 10 minutes or so. You want to let them sit for 12-24 hours to de-gas so you need to roast a little ahead of time. We usually roast several batches and have enough for a week. Sunday is usually roast day. We're partial to the african coffees because we like fairly acidic brews but we enjoy a wide variety. French press is great but when you drink as much of the stuff as we do the convenience of a good drip coffee maker wins out. There's nothing like controlling the roast to your own tastes and having fresh roasted beans makes a difference. We find most local roasters roast their beans too dark for our tastes. The darkness of the roast really has nothing to do with the strength or fullness of the coffee. Each bean has it's own character and responds best to certain roast ranges. Over roasting often destroys the beans character and there goes the flavor of the coffee. Roasting is easy and enjoyable, you should try it.
dr hoo 04-09-2006, 07:48 AM Your thoughts on the Dubai Ports deal?
Go back to the threads on it and read what I wrote.
rocco 04-09-2006, 07:51 AM Roasting is great! Green beans cost $5-7 a pound, plus shipping. We get ours from Sweet Marias. They've got a great selection and are very knowledgeable. We use an iRoast 2 roaster which roasts a batch in 10 minutes or so. You want to let them sit for 12-24 hours to de-gas so you need to roast a little ahead of time. We usually roast several batches and have enough for a week. Sunday is usually roast day. We're partial to the african coffees because we like fairly acidic brews but we enjoy a wide variety. French press is great but when you drink as much of the stuff as we do the convenience of a good drip coffee maker wins out. There's nothing like controlling the roast to your own tastes and having fresh roasted beans makes a difference. We find most local roasters roast their beans too dark for our tastes. The darkness of the roast really has nothing to do with the strength or fullness of the coffee. Each bean has it's own character and responds best to certain roast ranges. Over roasting often destroys the beans character and there goes the flavor of the coffee. Roasting is easy and enjoyable, you should try it.
Now you just need to make your own biodiesel... ;)
Mel Erickson 04-10-2006, 06:48 AM Actually, I have a biodiesel investment opportunity staring me in the face. Just don't have the cash. Anybody got a net worth of $1,000,000 and $50,000 in pocket change who can help me out?
CarbonFrame 04-10-2006, 08:55 AM Stop buying gas...Middle East Oil producing nations are linked to terrorism.
It was a simple question as to whether anyone knew about the story. If there were two sources of fuel and one was suspected to be linked to terrorism I would also stop going to the one believed to support terrorism.
jgsjr 04-10-2006, 09:11 AM blank
jgsjr 04-10-2006, 09:12 AM It was a simple question as to whether anyone knew about the story. If there were two sources of fuel and one was suspected to be linked to terrorism I would also stop going to the one believed to support terrorism.
So as long as there is one fuel source it's ok to support the terrorists. I mean what do you think gets the terrorists more income:
1. Carabou Coffee
2. Oil/Gas Sales
You won't visit a coffee shop because it is owned by an Islamic bank, and you think maybe it might posssibly have some ties to terrorism. But you will buy oil from countries that openly support terrorism.
ashpelham 04-10-2006, 09:15 AM I cannot believe we are having a pi$$ing contest about coffee. :rolleyes:
What about the Illegal aliens marching in the streets in a city near you as I type this? Think they are a threat? Do you think the Native Americans who roamed this land before white settles thought those whiteys were a threat?
Where are the Native americans now?
rocco 04-10-2006, 09:18 AM It was a simple question as to whether anyone knew about the story. If there were two sources of fuel and one was suspected to be linked to terrorism I would also stop going to the one believed to support terrorism.
Perhaps you should contact the company's public relations rep. and ask if the company actually supports terrorism.
colker1 04-10-2006, 10:39 AM It was a simple question as to whether anyone knew about the story. If there were two sources of fuel and one was suspected to be linked to terrorism I would also stop going to the one believed to support terrorism.
it was a silly question.
dr hoo 04-10-2006, 10:58 AM What about the Illegal aliens marching in the streets in a city near you as I type this?
How many are illegal, how many are legal, and how many are citizens? How do you tell the difference?
We have pissing contests about everything here. 'Tis the nature of the place.
mohair_chair 04-10-2006, 12:21 PM It's no longer owned by terrorists. Now it is owned by the mob. Drink up!
rocco 04-10-2006, 12:33 PM It's no longer owned by terrorists. Now it is owned by the mob. Drink up!
I'd heard that the Carlyle Group owns it now. ...Same difference.
CarbonFrame 04-10-2006, 01:03 PM it was a silly question.
I asked if anyone knew anything about the subject...because I didn't really know alot about it. Nate was kind enough to post the link with all od the info I cared to read. I am now more informed. Therefore the question served my purpose. nuf said
Mel Erickson 04-10-2006, 01:04 PM There are many sources of oil. In fact, we get more oil from Venezuela than the middle east. If you can tell the difference between gasoline made from middle eastern oil and that made from Venzuelan oil then be my guest. Buy from the station that only sells gas made from Venezuelan oil. Good luck and let me know which ones and where they are. I'd go out of my way to buy from those stations.
Live Steam 04-10-2006, 02:35 PM Too much effort for such a non-issue. How about a synopsis?
dr hoo 04-10-2006, 02:47 PM Too much effort for such a non-issue. How about a synopsis?
I was critical of the deal because the laws were not followed ( for example the 45 day mandatory investigation) and special deals were cut (like they could keep paperwork overseas where they could not be accessed). Cronyism and backroom sweetheart deals, in other words. In addition it was a state owned business, and there are issues with the government of another nation owning things that do not apply to a privately owned firm. I would be concerned if a Russian state owned company was running the ports too. If the law had been followed and deals not cut in the back room, it might have been fine... but I don't know.
Politically it was a huge failure for the administration.
So what does this have to do with a coffee company? In your mind that is, because I would never try to guess what is going on there.
Live Steam 04-10-2006, 03:09 PM Your comment about Islam equalling terrorism that prompted it. So a muslim nation proves to be a risk, but say, China doesn't?
dr hoo 04-10-2006, 03:24 PM Your comment about Islam equalling terrorism that prompted it. So a muslim nation proves to be a risk, but say, China doesn't?
Is Russia a muslim nation? Re-read what I wrote and then you should be able to answer the question about China.
If you want to play, at least pay attention.
jgsjr 04-10-2006, 05:25 PM There are many sources of oil. In fact, we get more oil from Venezuela than the middle east. If you can tell the difference between gasoline made from middle eastern oil and that made from Venzuelan oil then be my guest. Buy from the station that only sells gas made from Venezuelan oil. Good luck and let me know which ones and where they are. I'd go out of my way to buy from those stations.
Wait....wait...wait... hasn't Venezulia been threatening us too... AXIS OF EVIL :D
Live Steam 04-10-2006, 07:56 PM ? The original post asked if purchasing coffee from CC was supporting terrorism. They cited the fact that CC is/was owned by Islamic fundamentalists, First Islamic Investment Bank, which is not not Russian, but Arabic. Please explain yourself.
dr hoo 04-11-2006, 03:29 AM Please explain yourself.
Ok, in simple terms even you should be able to understand.
I wrote a couple posts up:
In addition it was a state owned business, and there are issues with the government of another nation owning things that do not apply to a privately owned firm. I would be concerned if a Russian state owned company was running the ports too.
Which means I have a problem with other states owning certain stuff in the usa. I mentioned russia, which is not a muslim nation, to highlight that it was state ownership, not the religion that was at issue. If I include russia, I would include china too. Since china is a state, and has many state owned companies.
I was answering your question about dubai world ports. You brought it up. So don't start spouting about the "original thread", since you are the one that decided to drift the thread.
Are you able to follow?
magnolialover 04-11-2006, 04:24 AM ? The original post asked if purchasing coffee from CC was supporting terrorism. They cited the fact that CC is/was owned by Islamic fundamentalists, First Islamic Investment Bank, which is not not Russian, but Arabic. Please explain yourself.
Didn't you read the link debunking this myth? First Islamic does not support any terrorist organizations.
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