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KendleFox 05-17-2006, 09:31 PM 60% of coastal residences do not have a hurricane evacuation plan!
This has been a public service message from the KendleFox broadcasting system....
“I watch FOX so you don’t have to”
KendleFox 05-18-2006, 05:36 AM But thats the best idea I've seen yet...
spyderman 05-18-2006, 07:59 AM Please refrain from referencing "Fox News" as an objective source. You may use the PO pre-approved "FauxNews" moniker.
Every time I see one of those headlines I throw up just a little.
KendleFox 05-18-2006, 08:01 AM Please refrain from referencing "Fox News" as an objective source. You may use the PO pre-approved "FauxNews" moniker.
Every time I see one of those headlines I throw up just a little.
I never used the word objective? How about fair and balanced?
Thanks you sir for your correction, I'll add those words to my microsoft word dictionary...
Gripped 05-18-2006, 08:15 AM 60% of coastal residences do not have a hurricane evacuation plan!
This has been a public service message from the KendleFox broadcasting system....
“I watch FOX so you don’t have to”
How many coastal residents don't have a tsunami evacuation plan? Probably lots ... more than 60%. That's because the Atlantic seaboard, including the Gulf, don't need one. Residents in Cali, OR, WA, and AK somply don't need a hurricane evacuation plan. I would posit that those floks north of Maryland probably don't need one either because by that time hurricanes are waek enough to be nasty storms.
Mel Erickson 05-18-2006, 08:25 AM I would posit that those floks north of Maryland probably don't need one either because by that time hurricanes are waek enough to be nasty storms.
If you believe this you better start paying more attention to your signature line.
Gripped 05-18-2006, 08:45 AM If you believe this you better start paying more attention to your signature line.
Mel, I lived in the east (coastal states but far inland) for about 15 years. I recall that hurricanes would make landfall as far north as Mass. So I should probably revise my statement to move it up to Mass. Because the water is cooler the fartehr north you go, hurricanes lose a lot of strength as they move up the US Atlantic seaboard. You aint gonna see a Katrina hit Boston. Still, evacuation plans should be in place for even smaller storms.
My main point was that the Fox news headline was shoddy journalism.
JoeDaddio 05-18-2006, 09:55 AM From what I hear, California actually has a pretty good tsunami plan... just that no one knows about it.
joe
atpjunkie 05-18-2006, 10:47 AM and we have buoys all the way across the ocean to monitor it. We don't get huuricanes (thank the cold water upwelling off Northern Baja for that). Plus our coastal areas aren't as flat as the east coast. we have bluffs on a huge chunk of our shoreline.
Faux News: Fair and Balanced, is actually neither. They should just come out and have "Propoganda Wing of the U.S. Gov." added to their logo.
with rising ocean temps, easterners further North should rethink their Hurricane Issues.
Finally, one sentence for all ya'll back east.
Canary Island (La Palma) Volcano causes mass landslide and creates 100 plus meter mega tsunami.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040815234801.htm
if ya ain't familiar see Lituya Bay 1958
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami_transcript.shtml
spyderman 05-18-2006, 10:59 AM Mel, I lived in the east (coastal states but far inland) for about 15 years. I recall that hurricanes would make landfall as far north as Mass. So I should probably revise my statement to move it up to Mass. Because the water is cooler the fartehr north you go, hurricanes lose a lot of strength as they move up the US Atlantic seaboard. You aint gonna see a Katrina hit Boston. Still, evacuation plans should be in place for even smaller storms.
My main point was that the Fox news headline was shoddy journalism.
That's a bit more accurate. You haven't lived unless you've experienced a true Nor'easter. Reminds you that you're still a mortal.
Fredke 05-18-2006, 11:10 AM What's particularly bad is the way FEMA is refusing to adopt new scientifically accurate flood-hazard maps because the real-estate industry doesn't like what that would do to property values.
The result of this bit of political cowardice is that all taxpayers are getting ready to make some big payments to homeowners who can't be bothered to floodproof or move out of the way of the next big hurricane.
Fredke 05-18-2006, 11:33 AM How many coastal residents don't have a tsunami evacuation plan? Probably lots ... more than 60%. That's because the Atlantic seaboard, including the Gulf, don't need one. Residents in Cali, OR, WA, and AK somply don't need a hurricane evacuation plan. I would posit that those floks north of Maryland probably don't need one either because by that time hurricanes are waek enough to be nasty storms.
There's potential for serious tsunami in the North Atlantic due to submarine landslides. This primarily affects the Gulf coast, but also affects the Atlantic coast through New England. In the last 150 years, about 2500 people have died from North Atlantic tsunamis (almost all of them were not in the US, but US coasts are also at risk).
As to hurricanes, the 1938 hurricane that hit Long Island and New England was the fifth deadliest in US history (680 dead, 1750 injured) and caused over $4 billion in damage (adjusted for inflation). Flooding near Hartford Connecticut was up to 19 feet deep. The 1944 hurricane that hit the east cost from Virginia to Massachusetts was the seventh deadliest (390 dead). Hurricane Carol (1954) killed 60 people in New England and caused over $450 million in damage. Hurricane Diane (1955) caused over $5.5 billion in damage to coastal New England.
It's estimated that if a hurricane similar to the 1938 Long Island hurricane hit the same area today, it would cause over a hundred billion dollars damage and leave well over 100,000 people homeless.
atpjunkie 05-18-2006, 12:02 PM the west side of La Palma has already slumped. if it goes at once we're talkin' a wave hundreds of feet high bearing down on a huge chunk of low lying east coast. will make all those hurricanses and thrust fault tsunamis look like childs play.
Bocephus Jones II 05-18-2006, 12:35 PM considered paddling across the East River to grab her
ewwwwwww
Fredke 05-18-2006, 02:25 PM We don't get huuricanes (thank the cold water upwelling off Northern Baja for that).
Prevailing easterlies in the intertropical region don't hurt either in that regard.By the time a storm can grow from tropical depression to hurricane, it's most of the way to Hawaii.
atpjunkie 05-18-2006, 02:49 PM is from the NW.It's why that area in the 'hook' (Bahia de Sebastien de Vizcaino / Laguna Ojo de Liebre and playa Malarrimo) is the greatest place to find Pacific flotsam and jetsam washed ashore. The reason (besides the wind) that the hurricanes start heading to Hawaii is they follow the warm water. Water in San Diego in the summer is in the low to mid 70's. A scant hour to the south (due to NW wind created upwellings) the water will be in the 50's.
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