View Full Version : 86% say impeach Bush in latest MSNBC poll.


thpeyton
07-08-2006, 07:42 AM
86% say impeach Bush in latest MSNBC poll.

see for yourself...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904



Thank BW for linking this to me.

Room 1201
07-08-2006, 08:18 AM
I won't waste my time with the link. I'll just offer that the poll must've been taken from the location of a dirty park bench in Berkeley, California, or Rocco's household.

Please 86% say impeach? :rolleyes:
Awwww comeon kp, don't yous believes everthing you read/hear on the interNeTTs?:p:)

Bocephus Jones II
07-08-2006, 08:20 AM
I won't waste my time with the link. I'll just offer that the poll must've been taken from the location of a dirty park bench in Berkeley, California, or Rocco's household.

Please 86% say impeach? :rolleyes:

nah...total BS...it's probably closer to 90+% :eek:

Snakebit
07-08-2006, 08:31 AM
nah...total BS...it's probably closer to 90+% :eek:

That would make it a PO only, poll.

JoeDaddio
07-08-2006, 10:08 AM
Not a scientific poll, but out of 264696 responses Bushie isn't looking to good.




joe

rocco
07-08-2006, 10:29 AM
What an honor...

Some friends took us to this play in Santa Monica last night. If you live in LA you should go see it. ...you won't know what hit you at the ending.


The play bill:

Bocephus Jones II
07-08-2006, 10:30 AM
What an honor...

Some friends took us to this play in Santa Monica last night. If you live in LA you should go see it. ...you won't know what hit you at the ending.


The play bill:
Carnivore just put you on the watch list...oh well...you were probably there already. :cool:

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI)>linky</a>..righhhhttttt...they got rid of it....

rocco
07-08-2006, 10:34 AM
Carnivore just put you on the watch list...oh well...you were probably there already. :cool:


Note how I didn't type out the name and just scanned the play bill and uploaded the image... :)

Bocephus Jones II
07-08-2006, 10:36 AM
Note how I didn't type out the name and just scanned the play bill and uploaded the image... :)

like they can't see through that thinly veiled ruse.....


:rolleyes:

rocco
07-08-2006, 10:50 AM
like they can't see through that thinly veiled ruse.....


:rolleyes:


It's rude to peep trough a person's thin veil.

Snakebit
07-08-2006, 11:11 AM
Carnivore just put you on the watch list...oh well...you were probably there already. :cool:

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI)>linky</a>..righhhhttttt...they got rid of it....

Y'all only wish somebody in the government really worried about your opinions. You have a better chance of being seen on the TDF podium than the FOX report on the evening news.

magnolialover
07-08-2006, 11:28 AM
Not a scientific poll, but out of 264696 responses Bushie isn't looking to good.




joe

Maybe someone should poll this question for real instead of an internet poll, which as we all know doesn't really represent anything at all. I'm willing to bet that the percentage of those who would want to see Bush impeached would be closer to 60% in favor in a scientific poll. That being said, there isn't anyone in Congress would start articles of impeachment against Bush, regardless of what polling numbers would come out to be. Only Russ Feingold asked for articles of censure against the President, and he had a whopping 2 or 3 democrats get behind him for that. They aren't going to impeach Bush, won't happen as much as I want it to. I think it might be bad for the democrats to try it anyway, so even if they take back the Senate or the House in November, or both, they won't move forward with it. They saw what happened when the republicans impeached Clinton, the man's popularity soared. I know, different time, different circumstances (you know, BJs vs crimes against the Constitution), but it won't happen. Nobody is ballsy enough in Congress to even bring up the subject anyway.

Snakebit
07-08-2006, 11:43 AM
Maybe someone should poll this question for real instead of an internet poll, which as we all know doesn't really represent anything at all. I'm willing to bet that the percentage of those who would want to see Bush impeached would be closer to 60% in favor in a scientific poll. That being said, there isn't anyone in Congress would start articles of impeachment against Bush, regardless of what polling numbers would come out to be. Only Russ Feingold asked for articles of censure against the President, and he had a whopping 2 or 3 democrats get behind him for that. They aren't going to impeach Bush, won't happen as much as I want it to. I think it might be bad for the democrats to try it anyway, so even if they take back the Senate or the House in November, or both, they won't move forward with it. They saw what happened when the republicans impeached Clinton, the man's popularity soared. I know, different time, different circumstances (you know, BJs vs crimes against the Constitution), but it won't happen. Nobody is ballsy enough in Congress to even bring up the subject anyway.

Is it just possible that people, really smart people, people who are in charge and responsible for this impeaching process thing, don't see any grounds for it and consider the fringe element howling for it nuts?

Room 1201
07-08-2006, 11:51 AM
Is it just possible that people, really smart people, people who are in charge and responsible for this impeaching process thing, don't see any grounds for it and consider the fringe element howling for it nuts?
Ironically, that sounds sorta like what the dems thought of the GOP during....

mohair_chair
07-08-2006, 12:11 PM
The people have spoken. It shall be done.

The thing is, there is a poison pill in place. If Bush goes, Cheney takes over, and that is far worse. If Cheney gets in, an Enabling Law is not far behind.

thpeyton
07-08-2006, 12:36 PM
I got the internet goin' nuts!

magnolialover
07-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Is it just possible that people, really smart people, people who are in charge and responsible for this impeaching process thing, don't see any grounds for it and consider the fringe element howling for it nuts?

Well, if you believe the "polling" numbers seen in this internet poll, it's a lot more than fringe elements asking for impeachment, or wanting impeachment. But as I mentioned, internet polling like this, not very scientific at all, so we don't know the real numbers, and like I said, I would believe it would be closer to 60%, which again is not on the "fringe" of things at all.

There are grounds for impeachment, such as not following the law which the President has done, has admitted to, and said will do again. As always, the ends don't justify the means. It's not even a question of has he broken the law, it's a question of how many times?

Here are some actual polling numbers for impeachment of Bush:

http://democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2
This one is showing 52% would favor impeachment. That's a little more than the so-called "fringe" that you speak about. Isn't it? Hey, I think that's the same percentage of votes he received in the last election. Or what we like to call a majority. Going back to the Clinton era impeachment proceedings, in the same poll noted above, only 26% of people in the US supported actual impeachment of Clinton. Now who was on the fringe? It looks like, at least in this poll, that there is far more people interested in impeaching Bush than there were Clinton. Also, as the aforementioned study notes, the case for impeachment against Bush is completely not in the so called mainstream media at all (you know, the big bad "liberal" media). And yet, the polling numbers say a majority of Americans would support it. Fringe indeed.

odeum
07-08-2006, 01:36 PM
anyone who maintains a scrap of patriotic viewpoint would insist upon impeachment. to condone not to do so would be indicitive of apologizing for the actions of a president who is, on many levels, acting in flagrant violation and self-admitted disregard of numerous laws, conventions and constitutionalities.



86% say impeach Bush in latest MSNBC poll.

see for yourself...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904



Thank BW for linking this to me.

spyderman
07-08-2006, 08:54 PM
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They aren't going to impeach Bush, won't happen as much as I want it to. I think it might be bad for the democrats to try it anyway, so even if they take back the Senate or the House in November, or both, they won't move forward with it. They saw what happened when the republicans impeached Clinton, the man's popularity soared. I know, different time, different circumstances (you know, BJs vs crimes against the Constitution), but it won't happen. Nobody is ballsy enough in Congress to even bring up the subject anyway.

If that's their reason not to impeach Bush then every member of Congress is too stupid to know why the FF put impeachment in the Constitution in the first place.

To begin with, Clinton was a very well liked president. Clinton was persecuted by an overzealous prosecutor for personal sexual matters. $40 mill spent on a 6 year investigation nets a blowie.

Clinton didn't lie a nation into an unnecessary war resulting in thousands of American soldiers dying needlessly, and tens of thousands of seriously wounded soldiers. Not to mention a needless invasion that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

Clinton wasn't a war profiteer.

Clinton didn't commit treason by exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative for political gain.

Clinton didn't shoot a man in the face, he shot a femal intern's blue dress.

Clinton didn't create a concentration camp in GITMO.

Clinton didn't shiite on the Constitution.

rufus
07-09-2006, 05:29 AM
that's not just a majority, that's a mandate! :D

spyderman
07-09-2006, 06:20 PM
that's not just a majority, that's a mandate! :D

Hey, wasn't Jeff Gannon the "mandate?"

atpjunkie
07-10-2006, 08:23 AM
Congress does the articles of impeachment
A President doesn't always get impeached by what he does, but by the will of Congress. Billary didn't really commit an impeachable offense but a partisan congress willed it so.
W has the benefit of having his boys having his back. He doesn't get impeached for the same reason
a) Conress doesn't look into a variety of his offenses
b) Duke Cunningham was never given an ethics violatuion
c) The changed the rules to keep Delay as Speaker of the House
d) we don't have congressional investigations into price gouging by W's war contractors
e) we don't have Congressional inquiry into the 8 billion that just went missing

you keep going off about 'there's been no investigation, ergo it must be legal' which just shows your ignorance into how Congress functions.

mohair_chair
07-10-2006, 08:53 AM
The interesting thing about this Congress is how, despite all their outright corruption, ethical failings, and see-no-evil ways, they got their panties in a bunch when the FBI raided Jefferson's offices in a that bribery probe. All the crap they overlook, and they choose to make a stand on that issue??? All of them need to go, regardless of party.