Traitor Joe Lieberman is a Republican.
If he loses his democratic primary he's planning on running as an independent which may split the vote.
He has adopted Rovian lie tactics to smear his opponent
1 dealing with Lamont hiring a Republican
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2006/06/lieberman_lies.php
another dealing with bumperstickers and a website (neither exist)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/09/lieberman-ad-uses-fake-lamont-bumper-sticker/

Joe, you suck. You always have sucked. Time for you to go or just switch parties.

Traitor Joe Lieberman is a Republican.
If he loses his democratic primary he's planning on running as an independent which may split the vote.
He has adopted Rovian lie tactics to smear his opponent
1 dealing with Lamont hiring a Republican
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2006/06/lieberman_lies.php
another dealing with bumperstickers and a website (neither exist)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/09/lieberman-ad-uses-fake-lamont-bumper-sticker/

Joe, you suck. You always have sucked. Time for you to go or just switch parties.

A man of conscience and integrity. A voice in the wilderness. The courage of the man to stand for something and to try to take his party back into the light. Enough to make me believe in Democrats again..........................................alm ost.

Joe is the incumbent who really shouldn't have to run against anyone but his policies are so out of step with his democratic constituency they want him out. His voting base is saying "Joe you don't reprersent us and our opinions". They like the rest of the 73% of America don't agree with Bush's policy but Joe does, so they want him gone.
Instead of running his campaign on his record (which they disapprove of) he's running a smear. Instead of taking defeat and saying "The people of my party have spoken" he's saying "If you vote me out, I'll run as an Indy and split the vote" which shows he doesn't give a rats a$$ about his public nor his party. Joe is out of touch and the polls are showing it. There is no conscience or integrity in that. If he believes in those policies so much so that his own party wants him out, then turn Republican. Joe is a suck up, if he had showed half the intensity he showed in his primary debate when he debated Cheney we may have had a different Pres and VP now.
Lieberman is in no way a moderate democrat. The far right has pushed the scale so far in that direction that a right leaning Dem now appears 'moderate'.

A man of conscience and integrity. A voice in the wilderness. The courage of the man to stand for something and to try to take his party back into the light. Enough to make me believe in Democrats again..........................................alm ost.
I agree. He has always seemed to be a man of integrity. However I guess that knife in his back keeps reminding him of the tactics his party has become all too accustomed to. He'd peobably make a pretty good moderate Republican. He is a religious man with core values that Republicans can accept.

A man of conscience and integrity. A voice in the wilderness. The courage of the man to stand for something and to try to take his party back into the light. Enough to make me believe in Democrats again..........................................alm ost.

a man who places himself above party and country. a man who seems completely outraged and baffled that someone would dare challenge him for his rightful seat in the US senate. a man who doesn't seem to understand, nor like, the way our political process works.

in short, a complete schmuck.

who betrayed him, his voters? last I checked this was a democracy and if a politician doesn't represent their voters they get the boot. I guess in the NeoCon 'round the wagons, right or wrong' world this would be seen as a betrayal. So what tactics is that? You mean, when you don't like an incumbent, run an option? Wow, how horrific, how barbaric. I guess you'd rather support a crap candidate just because he's there. I guess that explains the existences of Duke, Delay, Frist, etc....
What this really shows is the democratic party still believes in their voters.

The far right has pushed the scale so far in that direction that a right leaning Dem now appears 'moderate'.


This is perhaps the most intelligent and accurate observation I've read all day.

No one likes a sore loser. If he loses the primary and runs as an independent, he'd be lucky to get his wife to vote for him. The man definitely has no honor if he goes through with it.

No one likes a sore loser. If he loses the primary and runs as an independent, he'd be lucky to get his wife to vote for him. The man definitely has no honor if he goes through with it.

Well, if you want honor, don't you think his party owed him a bit of loyalty for his years of holding that seat for the Democrats? He's a good man and the radical leadership failed to support him this time out. I don't think that presents a challenge to his honor if he chooses to run on another party's ticket.

his party is saying they will support the democratic candidate who wins the democratic primary. the candidate who wins based on the will of the people, according to the fair and Constitutional electoral process. .

too bad Joe can't say the same.

Wouldn't be bad if he decided to run as a republican. At least then I could tip a hat to his 'honor', so to speak.

If he loses in the primaries, it's because the people who kept him elected for that long obviously do not want him representing them anymore. Pretty simple. If they can run another dem against him and win, then he is obviously not doing the job they want him to do.



joe

last I checked a Congressman is an employee of the people. If he doesn't perform according to their wishes they give him the boot. It's funny, though because your attitude clarifies why there are so many crooked Republicans presently serving.

There's no honor, no loyalty, we on the left try to base things on performance, by the way you guys support ole W clearly that isn't high on your list

Wouldn't be bad if he decided to run as a republican. At least then I could tip a hat to his 'honor', so to speak.

If he loses in the primaries, it's because the people who kept him elected for that long obviously do not want him representing them anymore. Pretty simple. If they can run another dem against him and win, then he is obviously not doing the job they want him to do.



joe

Maybe, but the primaries are mostly in fighting within the party and the candidate that has the blessing of the party leadership generally wins. Lieberman is a good man, a good American and though I would like to see him on a Republican ticket, I don't believe he is a Republican at hearat. He's a Democrat and his real bone of contention is that he voted for this war and isn't buying the line that all those Democrats were duped. He read the information, made his decision and still believes his informed vote was the right one. There is a very small number of Democrats that can say the same thing, wasn't it like 3 nays?

Well, if you want honor, don't you think his party owed him a bit of loyalty for his years of holding that seat for the Democrats? He's a good man and the radical leadership failed to support him this time out. I don't think that presents a challenge to his honor if he chooses to run on another party's ticket.

What does the party have to do with this? If he loses the primary, he obviously loses to a stronger Democratic candidate. The party can't just place him back into office because they want to. The will of the people of his party is what will decide it. The honorable thing to do is to accept the loss and not try to screw over your party because of it.

If you want to talk honor vs. his party, all signs are that if he has not abandoned the party already, he soon will. What guarantee is there that once elected he won't switch parties? Why would the party support someone who is likely to burn them? If Joe had honor, he would say up front, I don't agree with the Democratic party and I choose to not to run as a Democrat. Instead, he wants it both ways. He wants to take advantage of his incumbency and party affiliation to get back into office, after which I'm sure he will make an announcement that he is leaving the party. I find it disheartening that you don't view an act like this as a challenge to his honor.

Primaries should be rough and tumble. They shouldn't be...well look he is the incumbant let's line up behind him. That is for after a primary not before. Win or lose the man of integrity should after the primary shake hands as democrats and support the winner of the primary. Remember...the man that called another's economic policy "voodoo economics" served two terms as that Medicine Man's V. President.

in the primaries vote your heart
in the main election vote your party

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if Joe loses he should step down, that would be honorable.

another new one, Joe is reaching out to Jewish voters and saying vote for me because I'm one of you, disregard that my policies are mostly against what you want

in the primaries vote your heart
in the main election vote your party

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if Joe loses he should step down, that would be honorable.

another new one, Joe is reaching out to Jewish voters and saying vote for me because I'm one of you, disregard that my policies are mostly against what you want

Primaries seldomn produce a wild card. The candidate that has the party backing gets the party money and endorsments. That usually smells like victory when the dust settles and the last hanging chad is jarred loose.

Traitor Joe has party support because of his incumbence and he's gonna get whupped for his record. I remember when you Cons were touting Congress needs more change back in Newt's ole 'contract' days. Remember incumbency is bad, and all those Congressmen signing on for 12 years and out. Oh their 12 years is up and none are leaving. If their hypocrisy wasn't so often and obvious I might have been shocked by this.
I hope the voters give him the boot. See that is the difference between sides. We'll fry our own, you guys oughta try it sometime.

No one likes a sore loser. If he loses the primary and runs as an independent, he'd be lucky to get his wife to vote for him. The man definitely has no honor if he goes through with it.

That sore loser stuff don't wash. Al Gore and Kerry are still pretty popular with the Democratic faithful. What Democrats don't like is truth, honesty and integrity. You have here a man who thinks for himself and decides what is best for this country and has the courage to refuse to accept the lies the party is basing their future on.

That sore loser stuff don't wash. Al Gore and Kerry are still pretty popular with the Democratic faithful. What Democrats don't like is truth, honesty and integrity. You have here a man who thinks for himself and decides what is best for this country and has the courage to refuse to accept the lies the party is basing their future on.

I pop my head in here and this is what I see....LOL...has Irony and Comedy been moved to Tuesdays??......good stuff

GOP values of Truth, Honesty and Integrity

Bush
Rove
Delay
Cunningham
Abramoff
Skilling
Lay
etc
etc
etc
etc
etc

LOL!!:thumbsup:

That sore loser stuff don't wash. Al Gore and Kerry are still pretty popular with the Democratic faithful. What Democrats don't like is truth, honesty and integrity. You have here a man who thinks for himself and decides what is best for this country and has the courage to refuse to accept the lies the party is basing their future on.

If Joe no longer agrees with the party, he should leave the party. That's what a politican who values truth, honesty and integrity whould do. I know you haven't seen a lot of examples of that from the GOP, but those values are still important to some people.

If Joe no longer agrees with the party, he should leave the party. That's what a politican who values truth, honesty and integrity whould do. I know you haven't seen a lot of examples of that from the GOP, but those values are still important to some people.

Ya saying love it or leave it? It is his party too and what he objects to is having it hijacked by super liberal special interests. I think I see yer problem, you don't recognize the qualities we are discussing when you see them. Too bad, maybe Joe can fight hard enough to return his party to some of those values 'cause you're right, some of us still value them.

but he has HIS opinions and views. If they are not representative to HIS voting base they vote him out. It's good he stands by his choices, but he also must be prepared for the consequences of those choices. If they do not meet the approval of the voters, than so be it. He should take his lumps, running as an indy would then only hurt his Party, which shows he has no value for them either. Live by the Sword die by the sword, he is not prepared, nor honorable enough to suffer the consequences of HIS choices.
If he feels out of step with his voting base and if they show their discontent, then he should seek out a party thats base shares his values,which would be the GOP.

Whatever happened to "The Big Tent" ??

but he has HIS opinions and views. If they are not representative to HIS voting base they vote him out. It's good he stands by his choices, but he also must be prepared for the consequences of those choices. If they do not meet the approval of the voters, than so be it. He should take his lumps, running as an indy would then only hurt his Party, which shows he has no value for them either. Live by the Sword die by the sword, he is not prepared, nor honorable enough to suffer the consequences of HIS choices.
If he feels out of step with his voting base and if they show their discontent, then he should seek out a party thats base shares his values,which would be the GOP.

Spin it as you like, I don't believe it is the voters he has taken issue with, it is the Democratic Party leadership and the way he feels they worked against him. His issues are with that leadership, not his constituancy. All politicians understand that relationship. and the message I responded with was he should conform or get out and that translates the same as love it or leave it. It would seem hipocracy exists in unexpected places, or not.

Whatever happened to "The Big Tent" ??

Osama is hiding in it.

Ya saying love it or leave it? It is his party too and what he objects to is having it hijacked by super liberal special interests. I think I see yer problem, you don't recognize the qualities we are discussing when you see them. Too bad, maybe Joe can fight hard enough to return his party to some of those values 'cause you're right, some of us still value them.

What are these "super liberal special interests" you refer to?

Spin it as you like, I don't believe it is the voters he has taken issue with, it is the Democratic Party leadership and the way he feels they worked against him. His issues are with that leadership, not his constituancy. All politicians understand that relationship. and the message I responded with was he should conform or get out and that translates the same as love it or leave it. It would seem hipocracy exists in unexpected places, or not.

This is a blogger story old "Joementum" (God I miss Joementum)...has not been shunned by the leadership at large, most have said they will back the nominee here is a snippet from July 4 Washington Post..."Democratic leaders, including Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.), spoke to Lieberman yesterday morning and said they will continue to back him in the August contest.
"Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and the DSCC are supporting Joe Lieberman in the primary," said Phil Singer, spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and its chairman, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.). "We aren't going to speculate about what happens next because that would undermine our candidate."

Lamont is rich so he has been able to act like a first tier candidate and because he has good grassroots organizations in the blogosphere...he has been able to parlay that into tight poll numbers. So I think you may be off base as to where the outrage over JOEMENTUM!!!! lays, it isn't with the democratic party incumbants, it is with a number of activist anti-war voters in Blue State Connecticut that he is no longer seeing eye to eye with.

//tried to get JOEMENTUM in one more time without resorting to slashies but failed.

I give up. I guess I'll just have to accept Democrats don't like truth, honesty and integrity, and and that Democrats are the party of hate and fear, not Republicans. Snake says it, so it must be true. Let's stamp out the Democrats like modern day Huguenots.

// TMB - probably the only other person on the board who knows anything about Huguenots

I give up. I guess I'll just have to accept Democrats don't like truth, honesty and integrity, and and that Democrats are the party of hate and fear, not Republicans. Snake says it, so it must be true. Let's stamp out the Democrats like modern day Huguenots.

// TMB - probably the only other person on the board who knows anything about Huguenots

Jason and the Huguenots? Didn't he try and get the golden fleece? :cryin::rolleyes::D

This is a blogger story old "Joementum" (God I miss Joementum)...has not been shunned by the leadership at large, most have said they will back the nominee here is a snippet from July 4 Washington Post..."Democratic leaders, including Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.), spoke to Lieberman yesterday morning and said they will continue to back him in the August contest.
"Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and the DSCC are supporting Joe Lieberman in the primary," said Phil Singer, spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and its chairman, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.). "We aren't going to speculate about what happens next because that would undermine our candidate."

Lamont is rich so he has been able to act like a first tier candidate and because he has good grassroots organizations in the blogosphere...he has been able to parlay that into tight poll numbers. So I think you may be off base as to where the outrage over JOEMENTUM!!!! lays, it isn't with the democratic party incumbants, it is with a number of activist anti-war voters in Blue State Connecticut that he is no longer seeing eye to eye with.

//tried to get JOEMENTUM in one more time without resorting to slashies but failed.

Your "Jomentum" joke is lost on me. Still, it could be that Senator Lieberman felt he should have had monetary backing that would allow him to compete evenly with his challenger. that is actually the function of the party machinery rather than just being a good old boy network filled with pats on the back. I have no objections to him losing an election but I question the maligning of his integrity because he wishes to follow another path to try to stay on the ballot. That puts his candidacy before all of his constituancy which includes a number of Republicans and those of various smaller independent groups. If he runs and wins as an independent, would that not be the voice and will of the people? How is that dishonorable?

I give up. I guess I'll just have to accept Democrats don't like truth, honesty and integrity, and and that Democrats are the party of hate and fear, not Republicans. Snake says it, so it must be true. Let's stamp out the Democrats like modern day Huguenots.

// TMB - probably the only other person on the board who knows anything about Huguenots

A little before my area of French interest but did remember a part of this poem...

"We are Huguenot.
We probably came from Champagne.
We have farmed Scotland and France for thousands of years.
The sun has shone on our backs on the harvest field.
Nothing without the sun."

Your "Jomentum" joke is lost on me. Still, it could be that Senator Lieberman felt he should have had monetary backing that would allow him to compete evenly with his challenger. that is actually the function of the party machinery rather than just being a good old boy network filled with pats on the back. I have no objections to him losing an election but I question the maligning of his integrity because he wishes to follow another path to try to stay on the ballot. That puts his candidacy before all of his constituancy which includes a number of Republicans and those of various smaller independent groups. If he runs and wins as an independent, would that not be the voice and will of the people? How is that dishonorable?

That will be up to the voters to decide...but pragmatically speaking, if he can't get past the primary...how is he going to win the state. All he would do is ensure that neither he or Lamont will be the next senator from Connecticut. Hence, he knowingly and willfully is cutting the Democratic party the party that he claims to love as a devote of Kennedy (John F.) at the achilles.

There is something to be said about sore losers. Personally, this isn't for me to decide, I am trying down here trying to figure out what the hell Elizabeth Dole has done in the past years that should ensure her re-election in 08'...but alas it seems so.

even my super libbie rep Barbara Boxer stumped for oile Joe.yes I sent her a note of my disapproval. So the Dem machine is still behind Traitor Joe, the public seems to not.

Mr Grumpy, Big tent is still there but if the people of Connecticutt want a Dem Senator who has a different view than ole Joementum then he should subject himself to the will of the voters. He could still be a part of the tent but if he runs as an Indy he himself is stepping out of the tent