All,

My new VXR is arriving this coming Monday. It's a 2005 NOS. Anyhow, I've been looking through the manual online for installing the quickset headset and am I correct in that you need to the tool in order to install it properly? Is there another way or tool that I could use to install the headset? I've got an LBS that sells Time frames but I would rather do it myself if possible.

Thanks,

Ian in SD

I seem to remember from an old post that the quickset headset will come either already installed, or the frame/fork will include the tool in the shipment. Do a search of this forum.

In any event, I must report that the quickset isn't as set-it-and-forget-it as the brochures imply. In order to keep the headset from loosening every 60 or so miles, you have to use the stem as an ersatz lock-ring. After tightening the headset down with the three little rods that Time provides, you must jam the stem down onto the steerer tube before you tighten the stem's steerer tube bolts.

Anyway, enjoy your new bike.

The frame module comes with the headset installed and adjusted, you cut the steer tube without messing with the headset. If you do for some reason want to dissasemble the headset, be very careful of the bearing orientation. Myself and another experienced bike mechanic were able to install the bearings backwards (happily if was a sales reps personal bike)! You should also receive with your module 2 steel pins, they are used to turn the threaded coller with which the headset us adjusted. Enjoy, I know I am as I just built a VXR last week for myself.

Thanks for the response!

I seem to remember from an old post that the quickset headset will come either already installed, or the frame/fork will include the tool in the shipment. Do a search of this forum.

In any event, I must report that the quickset isn't as set-it-and-forget-it as the brochures imply. In order to keep the headset from loosening every 60 or so miles, you have to use the stem as an ersatz lock-ring. After tightening the headset down with the three little rods that Time provides, you must jam the stem down onto the steerer tube before you tighten the stem's steerer tube bolts.

Anyway, enjoy your new bike.

I just ordered Time Edge First (size Small). Should be ready in a week or so.

I do not understand - are you saying the quickset headset goes loose just from normal riding every 60 miles? that sounds like a design problem, no?

Let's just say that the instructions and the ad copy concerning the Quickset are a bit optimistic when it comes to its set-it-and-forget-it-ness. After about 700 miles of re-tightening the Quickset every 60 or so miles, I phoned the Southern California Time distributor and asked them what was going on with the thing. They simply told me to use the stem as an ersatz lock-ring. I did so. 2300 miles later, the Quickset is still perfectly adjusted. Problem solved.

It might be said in any event, though, that your Edge First does not have the Quickset. It has a standard Ahead set. So don't even worry about it.

Let's just say that the instructions and the ad copy concerning the Quickset are a bit optimistic when it comes to its set-it-and-forget-it-ness. After about 700 miles of re-tightening the Quickset every 60 or so miles, I phoned the Southern California Time distributor and asked them what was going on with the thing. They simply told me to use the stem as an ersatz lock-ring. I did so. 2300 miles later, the Quickset is still perfectly adjusted. Problem solved.

It might be said in any event, though, that your Edge First does not have the Quickset. It has a standard Ahead set. So don't even worry about it.

thanks. Apart from standard headset and an alloy steerer tube instead of carbon, what is the difference between Edge First frame+fork and Edge frame/fork? Different grade of carbon? What does it mean? Much more noodle-like? Less strong i.e. more likelt to snap? Less comfortable ride? There is only about 50 grams of weight as far as I can determine and it is non-rotational weight i.e. amounts to nothing on the road.

There's an Edge First in a bike shop that I frequent with some frequency. To the eye, the Edge First's fork is a very conservative, standard-looking fork while the other Time forks are full of bulges, ribs, arcs and such. I've never ridden an Edge First so I can't tell you if the thing might ride differently from the "Safe +" forks on the other Times, but salesmen from the shop have told me that the Edge First rides more softly than the other Edges overall. As for safety and noodliness, I am willing to bet that the fork performs just fine. The fork does not look cheap. It just doesn't look fancy.