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bloodthirstylust
10-01-2006, 09:08 AM
so during the dfl final in SF yesterday i managed to roll my grifo when i crashed after hitting a series of logs hidden under some long grass. only about a 6inch section came off the rim and i just popped it back on and rode the rest of the race. i guess about 8 inches or so is unglued, the rest of the bond is fine.

so i'm basically wondering what the best course of action to take is. it was my first race on the wheels/tires and since most of the bond is fine it'll be a bummer to pull the whole tire and reglue it but i'm guessing that is my best option. i should also mention that i used the usacycling 3 layers on the rim, 1 on the tire using mastik glue method. anyone have an opinion on the matter?

Spunout
10-01-2006, 10:52 AM
More on the tire. The basetape soaks up glue quite well. make sure there is a lot of glue on the edges of the tape where the edge of the rim meets the tire.

Oh, and pull the whole tire and re-glue the whole thing.

jroden
10-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Agree, put a nice wide layer on the tire and inspect the rim to see if it has a bunch of dirt, a thin layer all the way out to the edges wouldn't hurt, let it sit and dry and glue it up, make sure the tire is all dried out and clean before you start the whole process.

one_speed
10-03-2006, 12:01 PM
To follow up on what Spunout said, I always put at least two coats on a fresh tubular. The base tape does soak up a ton of the glue, so I almost don't count the first application. I always apply two coats minimum to the base tape.

The way I do this is: I'll put one thinner coat on the tubie, (inflated) and rim, then one thicker coat on each. Be sure those dry really well, try to leave overnight. Just before mounting, put a thicker coat on the rim so when mounting the tire, it can slide around a little bit while you center it. This works out to be 5 coats total.

Then, put some pressure in the tire and put all your weight on your hands, while pushing straight down on the tire / wheel. Rotate the wheel under you in small increments, (pressing down each small rotation) until you get at least one full roation out of the wheel. This step helps seat the tire really well.

Inflate to the max pressure and let it sit for a day or two. I find this works really well for cross or road. You will use between 2 and 3 tubes of glue this way. Best of luck.

bloodthirstylust
10-06-2006, 12:04 AM
thanks for the tips guys. i decided to reglue both tires since when i pulled the front it just didn't seem to have that good of a bond. i did 2 more coats on tire and rim and let the first rest overnight. it seemed way harder to reposition the tire on the rim than the first time so i guess that is a positive! i noticed that, from my first attempt, it seemed to be glued well at the edges but not in the middle. so when i mounted them the second time i deflated the tire and really pushed down on it with my fingers to "seat" it on the rim. thanks again!