so the word on the street is chocolate milk is pretty good as a recovery drink. actually the ideal recovery being a chocolate milkshake.
i imagine this is do to the high fat content. after reading about the diets of dogs who run the iditarod (60% of their diet is fat and they cover 150 miles a day for 11 days straight), and now hearing this, am i to assume that moderate amounts of fat are ideal for an active person? it is the first to burn at an aerobic state and provides huge amounts of energy correct?
i have to admit, i sucked one down after this morning's ride and feel pretty good.

Chocolate shakes are the bestest d@mn thing in the world. I've heard they are good for recovery, but I've also heard that a post-ride beer can be good for you too (although I would argue an unfiltered microbrew would be better for you than a mass-produced "light" beer).

After a hard ride, your body needs energy, and if you listen to your body it will probably tell you what it wants. Certain things (like bananas, milk shakes, etc) are sometimes recommended becuase they have things your body typically needs after a ride (potassium, vitamins, etc), but check out the Commuting & Touring forum and you will see everything from beer to brownies to sandwiches to mexican food after a ride.

I'm no expert, but that's what I've found from my long rides (70 to 90 miles).

so the word on the street is chocolate milk is pretty good as a recovery drink. actually the ideal recovery being a chocolate milkshake.
i imagine this is do to the high fat content. after reading about the diets of dogs who run the iditarod (60% of their diet is fat and they cover 150 miles a day for 11 days straight), and now hearing this, am i to assume that moderate amounts of fat are ideal for an active person? it is the first to burn at an aerobic state and provides huge amounts of energy correct?
i have to admit, i sucked one down after this morning's ride and feel pretty good.

Everyone needs some fat in their diets.

Chocolate milk as a recovery drink has been discussed here about a million times. There should be some good posts on it if you do a search in the old archives.

my recollection is that the chocolate milk finding was part of a controlled study examining the effectiveness of various recovery drinks on the market (e.g., Endurox). The study found no significant differences between recovery using either the drinks or chocolate milk (due to the fact that choc milk has approx the 1:4 protein/carb ratio as the recovery drinks).
Personally, I think these studies should be taken with some caution-the sample sizes are usually small, and may not represent real world effects...besides lots of people find milk to cause bloating after exercise and it's pretty filmy

Everyone needs some fat in their diets. Chocolate milk as a recovery drink has been discussed here about a million times. There should be some good posts on it if you do a search in the old archives.

In other words..."Yeah your topic is important, but some of us RBR veterans are tired of talking about it. I didn't have to view your topic and post a reply, but what the heck! I'll throw you a little bone. Now do your own homework and let's move on to something about titanium, Discovery Channel, Landis, Basso, blah blah blah":p I think most things have been discussed on RBR, some more than others, but some of us are always willing to chat and help a fellow cyclist:thumbsup:

OP,
Some fats are good for your body. Fat is the body's most efficient source of energy. Fats that are good for the body are monosaturated, polyunsaturated, and Omega-3. You wanna try and get your fat from fish, nuts and lean cuts of meat. Try not to get your daily fat intake from dairy products. From what I've studied, getting 20-25% of your daily calories from fat is optimal for an endurance athlete. Also, I don't think anybody would argue against choco milk being a good recovery drink (unless you happen to be Vegan or something like that). Heck man, I don't got money to burn on fancy science/lab drinks.

Hope that helps ya

The only milk that humans should drink is that provided by their mother. Once you are weaned, milk should not be drunk. Booze is the adult beverage of choice.

The only milk that humans should drink is that provided by their mother. Once you are weaned, milk should not be drunk. Booze is the adult beverage of choice.
So what is the optimum bacardi to coke ratio for a recovery drink? :)

In other words..."Yeah your topic is important, but some of us RBR veterans are tired of talking about it. I didn't have to view your topic and post a reply, but what the heck! I'll throw you a little bone. Now do your own homework and let's move on to something about titanium, Discovery Channel, Landis, Basso, blah blah blah":p I think most things have been discussed on RBR, some more than others, but some of us are always willing to chat and help a fellow cyclist:thumbsup:

+1 OTOH this is a great way to rack up the posts!

The only milk that humans should drink is that provided by their mother. Once you are weaned, milk should not be drunk. Booze is the adult beverage of choice.
That's why I drink White Russians before, durring, and after every ride, no matter the distance. It supplies the booze and the dairy to keep me pedlin'!! :)

In other words..."Yeah your topic is important, but some of us RBR veterans are tired of talking about it. I didn't have to view your topic and post a reply, but what the heck! I'll throw you a little bone. Now do your own homework and let's move on to something about titanium, Discovery Channel, Landis, Basso, blah blah blah":p I think most things have been discussed on RBR, some more than others, but some of us are always willing to chat and help a fellow cyclist:thumbsup:

OP,
Some fats are good for your body. Fat is the body's most efficient source of energy. Fats that are good for the body are monosaturated, polyunsaturated, and Omega-3. You wanna try and get your fat from fish, nuts and lean cuts of meat. Try not to get your daily fat intake from dairy products. From what I've studied, getting 20-25% of your daily calories from fat is optimal for an endurance athlete. Also, I don't think anybody would argue against choco milk being a good recovery drink. Heck man, I don't got money to burn on fancy science/lab drinks.

Hope that helps ya

Just saying that this has been discussed, and pointed him in the direction of the search function. I wasn't trying to be "rude" or whatever you perceived it to be, it's just that this has been discussed ad nauseum before, and well, a lot of good things have been discussed about it.

Not trying to rack up my post count.

Chocolate added to Cow Puss laced with hormones to induce lactation. Sounds like a great recovery drink to me.

Chocolate added to Cow Puss laced with hormones to induce lactation. Sounds like a great recovery drink to me.

To me: Pasteurization works wonders, it's low in fat (I use 1% milk) and it has nutrients my body needs http://www.foodgenius.com/index.cgi?action=nutrition&ndb_no=1083. Could be I'm brain washed from all the "Got Milk?" adds and the "Milk it does a body good!" thing however.:confused:

So Mr. Legweak, let me get this straight...

You start a thread suggesting that chocolate milk may be a good recovery drink, based on what you've read. Then, you become flippant when another poster directs you to more info previously posted and probably exhaustively covered, thereby preempting the need to restate the same discourse. Then, a bit later, you seem to educate other posters with some good, scientifically-based facts on nutrition. Given that this topic has been thoroughly discussed, you're obviously educated on nutrition, and you can read a nutrition label on a bottle of chocolate milk, what is the rationale for this again?

It's not that I care about seeing the same topic repeated, but it's pretty crappy to jump on someone who was trying to help, given the context here.

Try this website out: www.milksucks.com

Try this website out: www.milksucks.com

We don't really need guidance to find quackery web sites - we all know how to do that on our own :)

Your spoiling all of my fun:) Although I don't think milk, unless obtained from organic free range sources is good nutrition.

Not trying to rack up my post count.

Sorry magnolia, just having a little fun!

So Mr. Legweak, let me get this straight...

You start a thread suggesting that chocolate milk may be a good recovery drink, based on what you've read. Then, you become flippant when another poster directs you to more info previously posted and probably exhaustively covered, thereby preempting the need to restate the same discourse. Then, a bit later, you seem to educate other posters with some good, scientifically-based facts on nutrition. Given that this topic has been thoroughly discussed, you're obviously educated on nutrition, and you can read a nutrition label on a bottle of chocolate milk, what is the rationale for this again?

It's not that I care about seeing the same topic repeated, but it's pretty crappy to jump on someone who was trying to help, given the context here.

Uh Oh! I'm being referred to as "Mr." now. Looks like I stepped on some toes.:blush2:

Did I start a thread or did I just post a reply?

No. I didn't say chocolate milk is a good recovery drink based on what I've read. What I did say was "Try not to get your daily fat intake from dairy products. From what I've studied, getting 20-25% of your daily calories from fat is optimal for an endurance athlete." I said this (why am I explaining myself for something that is clear again? Oh well here I go) because the OP asked "am i to assume that moderate amounts of fat are ideal for an active person?". A response to a question, nothing more.

Flippant? No. If I was flippant then you would be seeing something like @#$ words in my sentences or I would start calling everybody "Mr.":D. I pointed out that most things have been talked about and there is no harm in helping the OP and having a chat even if it has been discussed before (along with most other things). If somebody wants to throw an idea or topic out there, nobody really has a right to tell somebody (in around about way) that the topic has been closed to discussion. At least that's how I saw it. As far as my rational goes, originally it was to give the OP some info regarding dietary fat as well as have a conversation. As for you? At least I contributed with some helpful information for the OP, which is why I came to this thread in the first place. Can't say that I see your rational in regards to the OP's topic either.:confused: But hey, who am I to say what you can and can't post.

As far as trying to "jump on someone who was trying to help". Well, I won't question magnolialovers motives. If he? or she? was trying to help by directing the OP to the word (Search) then my bad and I apologize. Sorry ml. Everybody is different, I however could have a discussion with a different person every day about the compatibility of Shimano/Campy/SRAM components, compact cranks vs. standard, or whatever and feel that my time was not waisted. I enjoy helping people out and talking about cycling and all that it encompass's. Hence my presence.

Hey Spear (no Mr.) I must apologize. After reading this thread, I was thinking that you had started it (didn't go back to check on that when I replied) which is why I didn't understand why you were responding the way you were. Seriously, my bad on that. Doh!

Hey Spear (no Mr.) I must apologize. After reading this thread, I was thinking that you had started it (didn't go back to check on that when I replied) which is why I didn't understand why you were responding the way you were. Seriously, my bad on that. Doh!

No problemo. I thought it was something like that. I was thinking "man, this person is coming out of left field with some stuff eh?". So anyway, we're cool:thumbsup: . Just like in real life misunderstandings happen over this internet thing too.

Cool... I'll be a bit more careful before spouting off next time!

Here is a more mainstream article about the consumption of Milk http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm

Here is a more mainstream article about the consumption of Milk http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm


Yeah . . . that site is mainstream :confused:

Not to stir up anything...but isn't a spear the same as a lance? Maybe a shield or something opposite. You know what I'm talking about.:cool:

OP,
Some fats are good for your body. Fat is the body's most efficient source of energy. Fats that are good for the body are monosaturated, polyunsaturated, and Omega-3. You wanna try and get your fat from fish, nuts and lean cuts of meat. Try not to get your daily fat intake from dairy products. From what I've studied, getting 20-25% of your daily calories from fat is optimal for an endurance athlete. Also, I don't think anybody would argue against choco milk being a good recovery drink (unless you happen to be Vegan or something like that). Heck man, I don't got money to burn on fancy science/lab drinks.

Hope that helps ya

Say something has
Total fat 23 g
Sat fat 5 g


What are the other 18 g of fat?

unsaterated. Of course there are lots of types of that kind of fat