Does anybody know the average weight of the frame and the fork?

Here in Europe only the whole bike has been available so far. I bought mine last year with the Chorus and I am completetly satisfied!

Check out wrenchscience.com or competitivecyclist.com. When you build a bike using their web sites, they'll give you the frame weight.

Thanks for the links, I´ve known them of course. The problem is, that these informations on the weight are not the same. The difference is about 200 gr.!

Did anybody weigh the frame himself?

Try searching or posting to the forums at Weight Weenies.

Thanks for the links, I´ve known them of course. The problem is, that these informations on the weight are not the same. The difference is about 200 gr.!

Did anybody weigh the frame himself?

Weighed a 55cm Paris Carbon with fork and headset - 1612g. They advertise the frame alone as being something around 980g or 990g. I doubt the fork and headset weigh 625g. More likely about 450g - 500g? This would put the frame ~1150g or so which is ~150g heavier than advertised. Sorry about the guessing, but I don't have separate weights.

This should give you an "idea" of what the actual weight of the F4:13 is.

My 59 cm F4 13 weighed about 1300 grams for the frame alone, and almost 400 grams for the fork. But I do love it.