knowing full well they are not gay, the same as gay bashing? This whole idiocy about what she said is beyond me. Edwards has never claimed to be gay and has not been alleged to be gay; not even by Coulter. So why would her use of the term faggot, which was used extensively when many of us were 'yutes', and not to infer someone was actually gay, but more that they were unmanly, be considered so outrageous? She made no reference to his sexual predisposition. Her unwiedly use of the term was unfortunate, but she in no way disparraged gays by using it. Who even uses that term any more? This is just the left deflecting from the real issues that they really have no answers and nothing of substance to talk about.

knowing full well they are not gay, the same as gay bashing?

Is calling someone the N word even though they are not black the same thing as being racist? Or is it just a "put down" that has nothing to do with bashing an entire race of people?

As for the term "faggot" ask a gay person how they react to hearing it. Calling something "gay" as an insult or someone "faggot" as a put down is saying that being gay is something bad, to be avoided. So yes, it is the same thing as gay bashing. Gay=lesser, gay=bad.

What's so complicated about that?

knowing full well they are not gay, the same as gay bashing? This whole idiocy about what she said is beyond me. Edwards has never claimed to be gay and has not been alleged to be gay; not even by Coulter. So why would her use of the term faggot, which was used extensively when many of us were 'yutes', and not to infer someone was actually gay, but more that they were unmanly, be considered so outrageous? She made no reference to his sexual predisposition. Her unwiedly use of the term was unfortunate, but she in no way disparraged gays by using it. Who even uses that term any more? This is just the left deflecting from the real issues that they really have no answers and nothing of substance to talk about.

I put that word in the same category as any other ethnic slur. Just because you and your buddies feel comfortable using it doesn't make it right.

+1 on hoo and BJII's comments.

Nice try BJ, but I don't use that term just like I don't use groovy either. This is another lefty trying to put words in someone elses mouth.

I think Coulter should have called Edwards a ***** instead of *****footing around it by calling him a faggot.

Again this is just libs trying to deflect from the real issues - they have no answers and nothing of substance to offer.

I find this very hypocritical too. Let's look back at all of the derogatory terms that were used to characterize Condoleza Rice. There was no outrage from the left and there was none from the lefties here either.

Nice try BJ, but I don't use that term just like I don't use groovy either. This is another lefty trying to put words in someone elses mouth.

I think Coulter should have called Edwards a ***** instead of *****footing around it by calling him a faggot.

Again this is just libs trying to deflect from the real issues - they have no answers and nothing of substance to offer.

I find this very hypocritical too. Let's look back at all of the derogatory terms that were used to characterize Condoleza Rice. There was no outrage from the left and there was none from the lefties here either.

Coulter is a persona non grata in my book already--I could care less what bile she spews. I was commenting on the use of that word specifically. If you hear someone calling another person a faggot it is almost always a put-down even if told in jest. The subtext is that being a faggot--effeminate, outside the traditional gender roles--is a bad thing.

Again this is just libs trying to deflect from the real issues - they have no answers and nothing of substance to offer.

That's right. Coulter is all about "substance".

That's right. Coulter is all about "substance".

You caught that too...my Irony meter went off the charts....Steam has set the bar pretty high when it comes to irony and these posts may very well nudge it even higher...

LOL

I find this very hypocritical too. Let's look back at all of the derogatory terms that were used to characterize Condoleza Rice. There was no outrage from the left and there was none from the lefties here either.

What were the derogatory terms "they" used about Rice? Did the terms relate to her being incompetent because of her ethnicity or gender or just her demonstrated incompetence? Attribution, please.

Did the terms relate to her being incompetent because of her ethnicity or gender
Yes!!!!!!

Nice try BJ, but I don't use that term just like I don't use groovy either. This is another lefty trying to put words in someone elses mouth.

I think Coulter should have called Edwards a ***** instead of *****footing around it by calling him a faggot.

Again this is just libs trying to deflect from the real issues - they have no answers and nothing of substance to offer.

I find this very hypocritical too. Let's look back at all of the derogatory terms that were used to characterize Condoleza Rice. There was no outrage from the left and there was none from the lefties here either.


BJ's comment was more about you having to ask if the term is OK to use...like you don't know what words are commonly acceptable and what are not. how old are you? :confused:

her use in this context was pejorative, meant to demean and belittle. serving as a thinly veiled attack on his manhood, his masculinity. in effect, calling him a wimp, weak, feminine.

not the characteristics one looks for in a leader. and that's why she used that term.

What were the derogatory terms "they" used about Rice? Did the terms relate to her being incompetent because of her ethnicity or gender or just her demonstrated incompetence? Attribution, please.

and just who are "they" anyway? well known authors, nationally known pundits holding heavy influence in their party?

Nice try BJ, but I don't use that term just like I don't use groovy either. This is another lefty trying to put words in someone elses mouth.

I think Coulter should have called Edwards a ***** instead of *****footing around it by calling him a faggot.

Again this is just libs trying to deflect from the real issues - they have no answers and nothing of substance to offer.

I find this very hypocritical too. Let's look back at all of the derogatory terms that were used to characterize Condoleza Rice. There was no outrage from the left and there was none from the lefties here either.

What the heck are you talking about? Coulter adds nothing of "substance" to the political discourse. She is a boor and a shameless self promoter whose biggest claim to fame is producing idiot books that preach to a choir consisting primarily of bigoted and hate filled people.

I can't think of any derogatory term used against Dr. Rice that had to do with her ethnicity or sex. Would you please provide a link to same?

You've lost a lot of credibility with this poor defense of the indefensible. Shame on you Steam!

Yeah you libs like to conveniently forget things such as:

1. Harry Belafonte's characterization of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Bush's house slaves"�.

2. The depiction of Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa'.

3.Ted Rall's crude cartoon depicting Condoleeza Rice going to a "racial re-education camp" and referring to her as a "house nigga".

Oh there's much more you libs conveniently forget too. So shame on you!

I wish the search engine for this site worked better too. There were threads about this when it happened and I don't recall any lib here getting 'bent' like they have about what Coulter said. Such hypocrisy!

Amazing that someone would even need to ask!! I will never understand standing up for those types of comments. There is no hope for the both of you. Nice company to be in if you don't give a shite about human beings. Peace out!!

Yeah you libs like to conveniently forget things such as:

1. Harry Belafonte's characterization of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Bush's house slaves"�.

2. The depiction of Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa'.

3.Ted Rall's crude cartoon depicting Condoleeza Rice going to a "racial re-education camp" and referring to her as a "house nigga".

Oh there's much more you libs conveniently forget too. So shame on you!

I wish the search engine for this site worked better too. There were threads about this when it happened and I don't recall any lib here getting 'bent' like they have about what Coulter said. Such hypocrisy!

any of them hold any influence in political circles? big time players in their party's political agenda? major pundits and authors like Coulter is?

or are they Hollywood types, and political cartoonists whose job it is to lampoon those in power?

Yeah you libs like to conveniently forget things such as:

1. Harry Belafonte's characterization of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Bush's house slaves"�.

2. The depiction of Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa'.

3.Ted Rall's crude cartoon depicting Condoleeza Rice going to a "racial re-education camp" and referring to her as a "house nigga".

Oh there's much more you libs conveniently forget too. So shame on you!

I wish the search engine for this site worked better too. There were threads about this when it happened and I don't recall any lib here getting 'bent' like they have about what Coulter said. Such hypocrisy!

here that any "lib" (you really overuse that word, btw) really was disdainful of Coulter's comment...most everyone here just sort of came to the conclusion is was tasteless...

and... I know Harry, but I'm guessing no one here really knows what you're talking about...it seems you're a bit sensitive. maybe you need a hug... :cryin:

I didn't defend her or stand up for what she said. I just see the brew ha for what it is. Peace. Out.

You don't know what I am talking about because you didn't see it on Nickelodeon. It was covered by the media when she was tapped by Bush to follow Powell and pretty much phoo phooed by the liberal pundits. There was also much more to it than what I posted.

Like I said!

Hoo summed it up.

It's an epithet. No matter who it is directed toward, it screams ugly bigotry.

What was this thread about anyway? Wasn't it about Ann Coulter's comment? Now you're just turning it on its head to complain that folks weren't appropriately upset about something else? Talk about a bob and weave.

But okay, I'll bite.

1. I guess I don't see the Belafonte comment as even remotely analogous. It didn't use an epithet (I think I may indeed feel differently if he said n*****).

2. The uhh... unattributed turns of a phrase in this one are not even worthy of you... you should at least stick to properly credited cut-and-pastes. It didn't take long to find the quote you lifted from a right-wing source:

"The depiction of Dr. Condoleeza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa' is a disturbing trend in editorial cartoons," said Michelle D. Bernard, senior vice president of the Independent Women's Forum. "These cartoons take the racism of the liberals who profess respect and adoration for black Americans to a new level. It is revolting."

Beyond this characterization, I've not seen the cartoons so can't speak to whether I'm offended. Political cartoonists have spoofed Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with racial caricature as well, and I think that such an approach generally sux.

3. If I saw the Rall cartoon 2 1/2 years ago when it was published, I don't recall. I do know that a number of online publications (including the Washington Post) dropped him in the aftermath, so your claim that the left wasn't outraged rings hollow.



But pray tell, does this really have anything to do with whether Ann Coulter was out of line?

But pray tell, does this really have anything to do with whether Ann Coulter was out of line?

Steam thinks the word is perfectly acceptable--funny even...we don't. That about sums it up.

Where did I characterize it as such in my post? I merely pointed out how hypocritical you and the rest of your liberal buddys are in this regard. Ann Coulter = Harry Belafonte = Ted Rall but you conveniently don't see it that way.

The Independent Women's Forum is a right wing source? So sue me.

You can't face the truth that you are a hypocrite!

I didn't defend her or stand up for what she said. I just see the brew ha for what it is. Peace. Out.

You've done nothing but take the typical GOP course of action here, which is to deflect criticism of a fellow right-winger by raising hell about someone else with whom you seem to harbor disfavor. You haven't actually answered any of JTs or BPs comments properly, which again is in-line with the Rightwing modus operandi: talk a lot but say nothing.

Any defender of Ann Coulter deserves lots of time serving community service.

:frown2:

Sometimes wrong has no entropic mirror that can point to the other side in order to deflect what wrong is...sometimes wrong is just wrong. While she is perfectly well within her rights to say it, the fact that perhaps her relentless demogogeury and villification of those that don't share her militant proto-fascist desires may finally be seen for what they are...hateful, gives me great joy. But I won't hold my breath.

I agree with your initial post that it doesn't fit the definition of "gay bashing"- but it is very "uncool" nonetheless.

But you took it too far in defending Coulter. Everything about her is hate speech. This isn't some isolated incident. Shall I post a list of quotable hateful Coutlerisms?

Last I checked, Belafonte wasn't selling books and hitting the speaking circuit. Danziger, Oliphat, and Trudeau? Hardly relevant these days.



Yeah you libs like to conveniently forget things such as:

1. Harry Belafonte's characterization of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Bush's house slaves"�.

2. The depiction of Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa'.

3.Ted Rall's crude cartoon depicting Condoleeza Rice going to a "racial re-education camp" and referring to her as a "house nigga".

Oh there's much more you libs conveniently forget too. So shame on you!

I wish the search engine for this site worked better too. There were threads about this when it happened and I don't recall any lib here getting 'bent' like they have about what Coulter said. Such hypocrisy!

Why do members even give Live Steam the time of day? Is dismantling his utter incompetence that much of an ego booster? It's too easy. You would think talking with a such a misinformed and misguided person grows old real quick.

Actually, if you read my post, you'll see that the work "hypocrite" doesn't fit. I find racial stereotyping in cartoons completely appalling, no matter whose ox is being gored.

Namecalling is rarely an effective discussion tactic.

I didn't defend her or stand up for what she said. I just see the brew ha f[sic] for what it is. Peace. Out.


I beg to differ. You have clearly suggested that her comments are not offensive either because the target isn't gay or because folks on the left weren't appropriately offended by a ted Rall cartoon 2 1/2 years ago (which is, at best, a deflection).

You've never expressed any concern with her use of one of the English languages more nasty epithets. I don't think it is a stretch to see your posts in this thread as defending her "humor" or at least throwing stones at those who condemn it.

This is the Worst. Thread. Ever.

Well, as I mentioned yesterday in another thread, calling someone else a faggot rarely if ever means that you are accusing them of being a homosexual. The word faggot is often used in playgrounds, schools, among members of athletic teams, and anywhere else where testosterone levels are high such as between two men arguing. It is used to discredit or question another person's character or integrity. For example, if one kid in a playground throws a ball that hits another kid, that kid could turn around and call the kid who threw the ball "you faggot!" He is not trying to accuse the other kid of being a homosexual. He is basically accusing the other kid of having no integrity since someone with integrity would never intentionally throw a ball to hurt another kid.

Homosexuals are seen by many as lacking character or integrity. And perhaps that's how the word faggot became associated with a lack of these qualities. Unlike the N word which is reserved for blacks only, the word faggot is rarely ever used anymore for homosexuals. Edwards recently demonstrated a lack of integrity when he so blatantly mishandled the anti Catholic members of his staff. I suspect that's why Ann accused him of being a faggot. Ann wasn't accusing Edwards of being a homosexual. She was accusing him of lacking integrity.

:cool: :idea:

Why do members even give Live Steam the time of day? Is dismantling his utter incompetence that much of an ego booster? It's too easy. You would think talking with a such a misinformed and misguided person grows old real quick.

I learned that long ago. The ignore function is useful in these situations.

Well, as I mentioned yesterday in another thread, calling someone else a faggot rarely if ever means that you are accusing them of being a homosexual. The word faggot is often used in playgrounds, schools, among members of athletic teams, and anywhere else where testosterone levels are high such as between two men arguing. It is used to discredit or question another person's character or integrity. For example, if one kid in a playground throws a ball that hits another kid, that kid could turn around and call the kid who threw the ball "you faggot!" He is not trying to accuse the other kid of being a homosexual. He is basically accusing the other kid of having no integrity since someone with integrity would never intentionally throw a ball to hurt another kid.

Homosexuals are seen by many as lacking character or integrity. And perhaps that's how the word faggot became associated with a lack of these qualities. Unlike the N word which is reserved for blacks only, the word faggot is rarely ever used anymore for homosexuals. Edwards recently demonstrated a lack of integrity when he so blatantly mishandled the anti Catholic members of his staff. I suspect that's why Ann accused him of being a faggot. Ann wasn't accusing Edwards of being a homosexual. She was accusing him of lacking integrity.

:cool: :idea:


Wow. Ummm . . . . . Wow. This is just . . . . . Wow. How can anybody . . . . . Wow. I can't even . . . . . Wow.

Wow. Ummm . . . . . Wow. This is just . . . . . Wow. How can anybody . . . . . Wow. I can't even . . . . . Wow.



I know, I know... I realized yesterday that clearly LiteSpeeder and Live Steam are in a league of their own.

-- Maybe they should get together and form an un-civil union.

Homosexuals are seen by many as lacking character or integrity. And perhaps that's how the word faggot became associated with a lack of these qualities. Unlike the N word which is reserved for blacks only, the word faggot is rarely ever used anymore for homosexuals. Edwards recently demonstrated a lack of integrity when he so blatantly mishandled the anti Catholic members of his staff. I suspect that's why Ann accused him of being a faggot. Ann wasn't accusing Edwards of being a homosexual. She was accusing him of lacking integrity.

:cool: :idea:

...like homosexuals?

-- Yeah, cool idea, right.

Wow. Ummm . . . . . Wow. This is just . . . . . Wow. How can anybody . . . . . Wow. I can't even . . . . . Wow.

Perfect. Exactly my reaction. I didn't even bother responding. Pretty much lost me on the "fact" that "many" people think Homosexuals lack integrity and character. Pegged the meter on the ignorance scale, but I'm glad that he (correctly I'm sure) explained what Ann meant.

Perfect. Exactly my reaction. I didn't even bother responding. Pretty much lost me on the "fact" that "many" people think Homosexuals lack integrity and character. Pegged the meter on the ignorance scale, but I'm glad that he (correctly I'm sure) explained what Ann meant.

One wonders what other calumnious words are floating around in his mind?

Degenerate?

Retrograde subspecies?

Why bother LS? First, they don't get the irony of the term she used and why she used it. Second they are hypocrites. It is not only PC to bash Catholics, it's down right fashionable. Their silence on the Rice issues at that time spoke volumes and their "oh yeah, that too" attitude about it now rings hollow.

blah, blah, playgrounds, schools, among members of athletic teams, and anywhere else where testosterone levels are high such as between two men arguing blah, blah

Perfect. Exactly my reaction. I didn't even bother responding. Pretty much lost me on the "fact" that "many" people think Homosexuals lack integrity and character. Pegged the meter on the ignorance scale, but I'm glad that he (correctly I'm sure) explained what Ann meant.


Slow down and take a deep breath. I told you to take your prozac as soon as you get up in the morning! You are falling into the same trap as your liberal friends. That is, you accuse anyone of being ignorant if they do not agree with your extreme liberal positions. This is a toothless argument that has been used by liberals for decades. If you have something intelligent to say then say it. But, accusing someone else of being ignorant because they disagree with your immoral positions shows a lack of intelligence on your part

:( .

I told you to take your prozac as soon as you get up in the morning!

Back off the insults. You've been banned before for being a troll. That is the second time at least I have seen that line recently, and if you continue you throw personal insults you will be permanently banned. Last warning.

And I do invite EVERYONE to report ANY personal insults thrown by litespeeder or anyone else when they see them. PM me with the link.

Slow down and take a deep breath. I told you to take your prozac as soon as you get up in the morning! You are falling into the same trap as your liberal friends. That is, you accuse anyone of being ignorant if they do not agree with your extreme liberal positions. This is a toothless argument that has been used by liberals for decades. If you have something intelligent to say then say it. But, accusing someone else of being ignorant because they disagree with your immoral positions shows a lack of intelligence on your part

:( .


In other words, gregario, LiteSpeeder may think you're like a homosexual.

- It's so... I don't know what to call it... interesting? It's ammusing to read who LiteSpeeder judges as being "toothless" in argument and "extreme" and "immoral" in their positions.

-- LiteSpeeder saying, "But, accusing someone else of being ignorant because they disagree with your immoral positions shows a lack of intelligence on your part"... Priceless.

Yeah you libs like to conveniently forget things such as:

1. Harry Belafonte's characterization of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Bush's house slaves"�.

Unless it is day-o dayyyyy-o, I don't listen to anything that comes out of HB's pie hole. He is gone daddy gone. I put him in the same catagory as Pat Robertson. That said, HB is black, and his use of the term was not a epithet, but a description of a type of historical behavior that rendered some slaves more priviledges then others. It also reflected, accurately unfortunately, the tendancy of Rice to simply let herself get rolled by Rummy and Cheney.

At the end of the day, it's a disgraceful comment that should have been condemned. HB could've made his point in a much less offensive manner.

2. The depiction of Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa'.

See above....

3.Ted Rall's crude cartoon depicting Condoleeza Rice going to a "racial re-education camp" and referring to her as a "house nigga".

See above

Oh there's much more you libs conveniently forget too. So shame on you!

I haven't "conveniently forgot" anything. If those comments were made, while different in degree and intellectual support than calling someone a "faggot", they should have been condemned.

The Independent Women's Forum is a right wing source? So sue me.

You can't face the truth that you are a hypocrite!

Did you even bother to read JayTee's post? Are you willfully ignorant or just a troll? There is no hypocrisy in JT's posts on this subject. Pull yer head out of the 1950s...

Did you even bother to read JayTee's post? Are you willfully ignorant or just a troll? There is no hypocrisy in JT's posts on this subject. Pull yer head out of the 1950s...

spot on. you'll get used to Steam's trolling. he carries as much substance as Ms Coulter. I'm just gonna let you drive on this one. You seem to have it covered.

Why bother LS? First, they don't get the irony of the term she used and why she used it. Second they are hypocrites. It is not only PC to bash Catholics, it's down right fashionable. Their silence on the Rice issues at that time spoke volumes and their "oh yeah, that too" attitude about it now rings hollow.

You are way out in the John Birch wilderness on this topic. Coulter's comments have been roundly criticized by every GOP candidate for president. Are they just simps pandering to that huge voting block known as the Log Cabin Republicans?

And another thing, don't you dare claim those that would condemn Coulter think it is OK to bash Catholics. For one, I would consider myself liberal on social issues and some economic policy (see graduated income tax). I also happen to be a Catholic and take great offense, as I've stated in this forum on several occassions, with those that make bigoted comments about Catholics (many of whom have been posting on this very thread).

That doesn't mean that what Coulter said was in any way appropriate or harmless good fun. Team LS, you are just as bad as those you condemn for religious intolerance. While this is only a chat room, you inability to call BS on one of your own is a sign of either complete ignorance or total ideological blindness that is completely unhelpful to intelligent discourse.

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Hey, wait a second bahueh, as Coulter might say, "Why are you denegrating the people that ride the short bus by comparing them to LS's written flatulence?"

Where did I characterize it as such in my post? I merely pointed out how hypocritical you and the rest of your liberal buddys are in this regard. Ann Coulter = Harry Belafonte = Ted Rall but you conveniently don't see it that way.

how convenient for you to point that out...libby this, libby that...if that's your only platform for discussion, try again...

Why bother LS? First, they don't get the irony of the term she used and why she used it. Second they are hypocrites. It is not only PC to bash Catholics, it's down right fashionable. Their silence on the Rice issues at that time spoke volumes and their "oh yeah, that too" attitude about it now rings hollow.


however it is more acceptable to ridicule Catholic priests...you know, the guys who have been systematically protected by an world organization for overwhelming reports of sexually abusing small children. you know...those guys...

you can't seem to keep focused on one conversation....and your apparent frustration seems to be so easily directed at "libbies"...even when some of us are NOT.

Did you even bother to read JayTee's post? Are you willfully ignorant or just a troll? There is no hypocrisy in JT's posts on this subject. Pull yer head out of the 1950s...
...comprehend it. And yes, he is a Troll. Just a popular one that likes to get under Libbies skin.:p

I've never spoken to you that way, and rarely even mix it up with you, but I do think you are out to lunch on this one. I also think your personal attacks are uncalled for.

In other words, gregario, LiteSpeeder may think you're like a homosexual.


- It's so... I don't know what to call it... interesting? It's ammusing to read who LiteSpeeder judges as being "toothless" in argument and "extreme" and "immoral" in their positions.

-- LiteSpeeder saying, "But, accusing someone else of being ignorant because they disagree with your immoral positions shows a lack of intelligence on your part"... Priceless.

Hey, I don't care if LS thinks I'm like a ****.

I was just stunned about the -- most people believe that homosexuals lack integrity and character --. Maybe in his universe....

I also was amused about the "immoral" comment. Homosexuality is immoral according to LS. For many bible and koran thumpers it is. But I think we can put that centuries old thinking to bed soon. Genetics is pretty powerful stuff.

Actually, Ann Coulter = Howard Stern. She's the loose cannon who loves to spew innuendo and bile, to say the sorts of things that a lot of conservatives might agree with, but would never allow themselves to publicly utter. She has shock value. Period. ...and as a high-profile lightning rod, she does yeoman duty deflecting attention from matters of substance. It's just unfortunate that too many "libs" are so eager to take the bait she throws out and get distracted from more important issues.

Oh, and she's butt-ugly, too.

Hey, wait a second bahueh, as Coulter might say, "Why are you denegrating the people that ride the short bus by comparing them to LS's written flatulence?"

I knew that when i wrote it...it was a badly placed euphemism for those of small mental competence...:mad2:

Oh, and she's butt-ugly, too.


seems LS's issue is why "libbies" get contorted over one politically incorrect statement and not another...from what I've seen here, his comparisons are a bit off...
political satirist cartoons and public verbal commentary are two different matrices...people that read cartoons know they are cartoons....people who hear others speak don't always know they're internal comparison for interpretation...

Coulter's a baffoon...in fact anyone who publicly derides anyone else for media attention is a baffoon...its the negative reflex to political attack ads. all this, and the primaries are still 11 months away...

Ah, stick around awhile. You won't be surprised for long about the incendiary things Litespeeder says about glbt folks. The song remains the same and doesn't warrant the energy involved in even letting your pulse elevate.

Hey, I don't care if LS thinks I'm like a ****.

I was just stunned about the -- most people believe that homosexuals lack integrity and character --. Maybe in his universe....

I also was amused about the "immoral" comment. Homosexuality is immoral according to LS. For many bible and koran thumpers it is. But I think we can put that centuries old thinking to bed soon. Genetics is pretty powerful stuff.


That's some wacky stuff coming from LS and like JT said.

What was this thread about anyway? Wasn't it about Ann Coulter's comment? Now you're just turning it on its head to complain that folks weren't appropriately upset about something else? Talk about a bob and weave.

But okay, I'll bite.

1. I guess I don't see the Belafonte comment as even remotely analogous. It didn't use an epithet (I think I may indeed feel differently if he said n*****).

2. The uhh... unattributed turns of a phrase in this one are not even worthy of you... you should at least stick to properly credited cut-and-pastes. It didn't take long to find the quote you lifted from a right-wing source:

"The depiction of Dr. Condoleeza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her 'massa' is a disturbing trend in editorial cartoons," said Michelle D. Bernard, senior vice president of the Independent Women's Forum. "These cartoons take the racism of the liberals who profess respect and adoration for black Americans to a new level. It is revolting."

Beyond this characterization, I've not seen the cartoons so can't speak to whether I'm offended. Political cartoonists have spoofed Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with racial caricature as well, and I think that such an approach generally sux.

3. If I saw the Rall cartoon 2 1/2 years ago when it was published, I don't recall. I do know that a number of online publications (including the Washington Post) dropped him in the aftermath, so your claim that the left wasn't outraged rings hollow.



But pray tell, does this really have anything to do with whether Ann Coulter was out of line?


It's a poorly disguised excuse for LS to use the word. It's like a giggling child using the word "poopy". He knew the answer to his own question. But by playing dumb, he now can get off on seeing an entire thread dedicated a word most find offensive, but he finds thrilling.

Yeah that was it. Thanks for participating. Please don't forget to collect your free gift at the door.

It's a poorly disguised excuse for LS to use the word. It's like a giggling child using the word "poopy". He knew the answer to his own question. But by playing dumb, he now can get off on seeing an entire thread dedicated a word most find offensive, but he finds thrilling.
...Steam just likes to stir up the pot and see everyone falling over themselves trying to argue with him. That's what makes his post's the most entertaining. Not very enlightening though.

I wasn't aware enlightenment was desired. Let me see what I can come up with :)

I wasn't aware enlightenment was desired. Let me see what I can come up with :)
...teach me old wise cracking one.:D