I know I'm setting myself up for a lot of digs, but If you guys would go vote for me for Maxim's hometown hottie, I would a very happy girl!!
http://www.maximonline.com/hotties/profile_2007.aspx?id=16606&ind=2

xoxo
Candice

Heck, anyone savvy enough to seek out cyclists gets my vote. Good luck!

If I could only be so lucky :thumbsup:

Done. Good luck.

You got my vote :thumbsup:

Nice pic's, tastefull.
Good luck.

where's the bike??!?!??!

just for that, you get a sympathy vote. oh yeah, its great to see that there are hot biologists. i almost gave up on that statement

Got my Vote !
Hangs out in a bike forum, Nascar Fan and oh yea...Hot.
How can you not vote for her.

Best of Luck.

I guess I should vote for her since she will be my next wife. She does not know it yet but she will be.........:D

Candice is hot.... who knew?

Could this set a dangerous precedent where all RBRers send in a sexy photo set?

I love you guys! Thanks for the support!:thumbsup:

+1...

You got my vote too

I voted for you, because you asked so nicely (and your pictures are lovely!).
but, why the surgery? I am not trying to be mean or judgmental, but I do not get it. I realize that not everyone feels as I do, which is that whatever Mother Nature gave you is better than surgically done, but it as usually a neutral. I just do not understand why so many women do that.
Without trying to impose too much of my information on anyone, let's just say that most men are much more ecumenical and broadminded in their appreciation of womens' bodies than women understand. Some dope there is always who is bowled over by proportions that block out the sun, but these are more rare than women think.
Don't get me wrong -- your pictures are lovely, and I may be entirely off base in my conclusion (and in what I am raising). But, hey, it's the Internet.

Steel is real. So should be boobs. Right on, Bill.

why the surgery?


It was a package deal, they did the boobs the same time they removed his Adam's apple and boys.

You got spunk.
You are a hottie.
You got my vote.

Best of luck.:thumbsup:

I voted for you, because you asked so nicely (and your pictures are lovely!).
but, why the surgery? I am not trying to be mean or judgmental, but I do not get it. I realize that not everyone feels as I do, which is that whatever Mother Nature gave you is better than surgically done, but it as usually a neutral. I just do not understand why so many women do that.
Without trying to impose too much of my information on anyone, let's just say that most men are much more ecumenical and broadminded in their appreciation of womens' bodies than women understand. Some dope there is always who is bowled over by proportions that block out the sun, but these are more rare than women think.
Don't get me wrong -- your pictures are lovely, and I may be entirely off base in my conclusion (and in what I am raising). But, hey, it's the Internet.

No worries, I've got this question before. I like to put it this way: what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman. this was the BEST decision I've ever made. And my philosophy is, if I can touch them...they are "real". Most women wear padded bras anyway, so they are pretty much doing the same thing i am...only when I take my clothes off, my boobs are still there :)

Also, everyone alters their appearance in some way whether it be by a tatoo, piercing, hair cut, etc. So I see absolutely no problem with it.

solve the issue of world poverty ?

Candice, I dont think there is an ethical issue about your impants, nor do I judge you getting them.

I recall reading a few articles and seeing the results of the long term heath effects of impants. You may want to have them removed before you have childern and then because of the stretched skin have them replaced after breast feeding is overwith.

I also recall 70% of women who died by suicide had impants.

When I can tell that a woman has had a boob job, and you almost always can tell, it's a bit of a turnoff for me. I don't know entirely why, but it is.
I really don't have a problem with it, either, in the sense that many things are done in the name of cosmetics. And, look, if it's the right decision for you, who am I to argue?
I just wanted to say to . . . someone that, you know, men don't care as much about boob size as women might think. Or, many men don't care. Most, I think. When big boobs go by, yeah, we notice, but that's not the same as what we find attractive in a given woman. Big boobs are not necessary to be attractive. You all are plenty attractive anyway.
Just as how women tend to see a man who may not be the world's greatest looker but who carries himself with confidence, which typically wins the day over looks, men respond to big boobs, small boobs, whatever, if the woman thinks of herself as sexy.
I'm just saying, I'm sure that you were plenty sexy before the surgery. That's what I want to say to all women -- you all are sexy because of what's between your ears and what you are, not what's under your bra cups. Other than my wife, who holds a very singular role in my life, the sexiest women I know right now are sexy because they can ride a bike better than many men. I love that. It has nothing to do with boobs.
Bottom line is, I love the boobs of women I love. Maybe I find boob jobs a turnoff because I find them so -- unnecessary and trivializing of what is wonderful about women.

No worries, I've got this question before. I like to put it this way: what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman. this was the BEST decision I've ever made. And my philosophy is, if I can touch them...they are "real". Most women wear padded bras anyway, so they are pretty much doing the same thing i am...only when I take my clothes off, my boobs are still there :)

Also, everyone alters their appearance in some way whether it be by a tatoo, piercing, hair cut, etc. So I see absolutely no problem with it.
How big an upgrade did you get? I see a full C now...is that about right?

bill,
You are entirely too sensitive for this site.

Candice has my vote

No worries, I've got this question before. I like to put it this way: what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman. this was the BEST decision I've ever made. And my philosophy is, if I can touch them...they are "real". Most women wear padded bras anyway, so they are pretty much doing the same thing i am...only when I take my clothes off, my boobs are still there :)

Also, everyone alters their appearance in some way whether it be by a tatoo, piercing, hair cut, etc. So I see absolutely no problem with it.
. . . and what I consider the attribute that makes me stand out as a man -- hmm, I never thought of it that way. I suppose I consider my brains, my sense of humor, and my confidence in these things or from these things my most important sexual attributes. I think that's honest, anyway.

bill,
You are entirely too sensitive for this site.

Candice has my vote
aww, now you're just being kind.
if Ann Coulter were here, she'd tell it straight (get it? "straight"?)

deleted, user banned.
okay.

re: boobs, Wow, this conv is getting a little personal, no?

Candie, you obviously don't need anyone here to tell you that you are a beautiful young lady...you most likely already hear it dozens of times each day.

But I have a question. I have never understood the whole concept of beauty contests, pageants, and the like. (But then again, I have never understood magazines like FMH, Maxim, and even nudie mags like Playboy and beyond...). Why is it so important to be the most beautiful woman? I'm not busting your chops by asking this, it's an honest question...I honestly wonder what the satisfaction/reward is.

Is it simply a means to make money? Do you do it because you can, because men are dumb enough to give in and write out the checks? Or do you do it for some other reason to satisfy something within you?

I ask because one of the most common complaints that I hear from women in general is how much they detest being treated/viewed as sexual objects by men, but it seems like this sort of thing just supports and perpetuates this sort of behavior.

I'm honestly not trying to be a jerk, I really am wondering what drives beauty/fashion oriented peoples' motivations. I hope you don't take offense to me asking this.

Have a good day.

And the question for us would be why do we care about what our bike computer really says? Is that going to put food on the table for most of us? For some reason though, it just makes me feel good when I see my average speed for a ride in the 20's, or when I climb a mountain in a bigger gear than the time before, or when I blow by somebody on the road and they can never catch up to me. Yes, exercise if good for us, but that isn't why we all ride our bikes or spend insane amounts on our bikes.

I also feel good when my wife tells me that so and so said she has a hot husband. I also feel good when people tell me that I have a nice smile. I am sure it doesn't hurt to be viewed as beautiful. Now, with Candice, she has the ability to put food on the table with her beauty. Of course, beauty is only skin deep, and it only lasts for a while, just like athletes, so there had better be a back up plan for later (e.g., education).

You guys are asking such subjective questions, that it is utterly insane. I am still trying to rationalize why I am going to order 2 Record groupos in a minute for my TT bike and my crit bike instead of 2 Chorus groupos, but in the end I'll still get the Record.

If whatever you do is legal, and it makes you feel better, go ahead and do it I say. Now, 30 years down the road please do not cry about the consequences. Everything has its consequences. I can go on forever about this, but I need to get back to tax returns so that I can afford the Record groupos.

By the way Candice, I already voted for you based upon your request in the Tour of Cali thread.

Regarding my position on breasts, I don't care if a woman is flat chested or large chested, so long as she is fit (i.e., not fat).

. . . and what I consider the attribute that makes me stand out as a man -- hmm, I never thought of it that way. I suppose I consider my brains, my sense of humor, and my confidence in these things or from these things my most important sexual attributes. I think that's honest, anyway.

Nicely said, I respect your opinion. To be completely honest i did it for me. I know your probably rolling your eyes, but it's true. I love big boobs, always have. I find the female shape very attractive and I am very secure with my sexuality. My fiance never pressured me to get them and loves me reguardless, but I got them for me...and nobody else. Of course I'm damn proud of them now (obviously) because they are amazing. My feelings can only really be described: like a little kid gets a new favorite toy.

haha! thanks for the concern Mt. Biker. I'm going to take my chances with them with "kids" I've known a few people who've had no problem breast feeding and what not. And when all the trauma's over, I can always get them put back in place...haha, awe the beauty of science.

With the 70% statistic...I believe that correlation doesn't always mean causation. most women (probably the 70%) who get implants are insecure or have other deep seeded issues and will never be happy with themselves...that itself would be the cause of suicide...not the mere fact of having implants.

Nicely said, I respect your opinion. To be completely honest i did it for me. I know your probably rolling your eyes, but it's true. I love big boobs, always have. I find the female shape very attractive and I am very secure with my sexuality. My fiance never pressured me to get them and loves me reguardless, but I got them for me...and nobody else. Of course I'm damn proud of them now (obviously) because they are amazing. My feelings can only really be described: like a little kid gets a new favorite toy.
In a big way, it's unfair to compare, because men don't have any comparable visible secondary sexual characteristics. We have facial hair, which we shave, and leg hair, which some of us shave, and chest hair, which went out with Burt Reynolds' mustache, and which lots of guys shave, anyway, and we're basically boobless chicks but for Adams apples and fart jokes and discrete bulges in our drawers. It ain't the same.
Baby, if you're happy, I'm happy.

re: boobs, Wow, this conv is getting a little personal, no?

Candie, you obviously don't need anyone here to tell you that you are a beautiful young lady...you most likely already hear it dozens of times each day.

But I have a question. I have never understood the whole concept of beauty contests, pageants, and the like. (But then again, I have never understood magazines like FMH, Maxim, and even nudie mags like Playboy and beyond...). Why is it so important to be the most beautiful woman? I'm not busting your chops by asking this, it's an honest question...I honestly wonder what the satisfaction/reward is.

Is it simply a means to make money? Do you do it because you can, because men are dumb enough to give in and write out the checks? Or do you do it for some other reason to satisfy something within you?

I ask because one of the most common complaints that I hear from women in general is how much they detest being treated/viewed as sexual objects by men, but it seems like this sort of thing just supports and perpetuates this sort of behavior.

I'm honestly not trying to be a jerk, I really am wondering what drives beauty/fashion oriented peoples' motivations. I hope you don't take offense to me asking this.

Have a good day.

to be honest, it's the money. I'm a college girl who pays her own way. It's hard, I have a day job, but modeling on the side pays for my books and whatnot.

I agree, I didn't think this was going to get personal; but I don't mind. I'm a very honest person and have no problem addressing your questions as long as you aren't an a*hole (which you aren't unlike some of the other guys on here).

As for the women being pissed for men treating them like objects...they obviously are facilitating the problem. most women who are treated as objects dress to be noticed. I really don't mind it because I don't care about the men who view me this way. But in my close circle of guy friends, they have the ability to look beyond the boobs, beyond the appearance. Human nature can't be helped, I don't care if the girl was wearing a turtle neck. Humans are sexual beings. As long as I have friends and family who truly know me and respect me for who I am, why should if I care if I'm mearly eye candy for the many guys that I will never meet and ever talk to again. It's simply too insignificant to care about. And if it helps me to be more financially secure without sacrificing my self worth, what's the big issue?

And the question for us would be why do we care about what our bike computer really says? Is that going to put food on the table for most of us? For some reason though, it just makes me feel good when I see my average speed for a ride in the 20's, or when I climb a mountain in a bigger gear than the time before, or when I blow by somebody on the road and they can never catch up to me. Yes, exercise if good for us, but that isn't why we all ride our bikes or spend insane amounts on our bikes.

I also feel good when my wife tells me that so and so said she has a hot husband. I also feel good when people tell me that I have a nice smile. I am sure it doesn't hurt to be viewed as beautiful. Now, with Candice, she has the ability to put food on the table with her beauty. Of course, beauty is only skin deep, and it only lasts for a while, just like athletes, so there had better be a back up plan for later (e.g., education).

You guys are asking such subjective questions, that it is utterly insane. I am still trying to rationalize why I am going to order 2 Record groupos in a minute for my TT bike and my crit bike instead of 2 Chorus groupos, but in the end I'll still get the Record.

If whatever you do is legal, and it makes you feel better, go ahead and do it I say. Now, 30 years down the road please do not cry about the consequences. Everything has its consequences. I can go on forever about this, but I need to get back to tax returns so that I can afford the Record groupos.

By the way Candice, I already voted for you based upon your request in the Tour of Cali thread.

Regarding my position on breasts, I don't care if a woman is flat chested or large chested, so long as she is fit (i.e., not fat).

Well said, thank you. :)

I know I'm setting myself up for a lot of digs, but If you guys would go vote for me for Maxim's hometown hottie, I would a very happy girl!!
http://www.maximonline.com/hotties/profile_2007.aspx?id=16606&ind=2

xoxo
Candice


sorry, but after reviewing the evidence, my vote had to go for oksana...


http://www.maximonline.com/hotties/profile_2007.aspx?id=16738&ind=1

.. what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman.
I saw this on another site today and thought it was apropos. Vive la difference!

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to be honest, it's the money. I'm a college girl who pays her own way. It's hard, I have a day job, but modeling on the side pays for my books and whatnot.

I agree, I didn't think this was going to get personal; but I don't mind. I'm a very honest person and have no problem addressing your questions as long as you aren't an a*hole (which you aren't unlike some of the other guys on here).

As for the women being pissed for men treating them like objects...they obviously are facilitating the problem. most women who are treated as objects dress to be noticed. I really don't mind it because I don't care about the men who view me this way. But in my close circle of guy friends, they have the ability to look beyond the boobs, beyond the appearance. Human nature can't be helped, I don't care if the girl was wearing a turtle neck. Humans are sexual beings. As long as I have friends and family who truly know me and respect me for who I am, why should if I care if I'm mearly eye candy for the many guys that I will never meet and ever talk to again. It's simply too insignificant to care about. And if it helps me to be more financially secure without sacrificing my self worth, what's the big issue?

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate your honesty, and your philosophy.

I read in your other thread that you are a climber? What sort of routes do you climb? Top rope? Bolts? Trad? Aid? Alpine? I love to climb, but keeping the skin on the finger tips in decent shape (e.g., not dry, cracked, blistered, and otherwise generally gross) can be a chore! :)

haha! thanks for the concern Mt. Biker. I'm going to take my chances with them with "kids" I've known a few people who've had no problem breast feeding and what not. And when all the trauma's over, I can always get them put back in place...haha, awe the beauty of science.

With the 70% statistic...I believe that correlation doesn't always mean causation. most women (probably the 70%) who get implants are insecure or have other deep seeded issues and will never be happy with themselves...that itself would be the cause of suicide...not the mere fact of having implants.

I would encourage you to have them removed prior to getting pregnant. There are health concerns with having those types of toxins in your body while a child developes within you. Then when you're done breast feeding have a new set put in place and you're set. But for the childs/childerns sake it would be wise to avoid the risk.

You're right, the stat only reflects the quiet desperation of impants, not the fact that impants kill. You're right, its an internal issue. But most body augmentations are just that, an external modification to fix and internal issue.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate your honesty, and your philosophy.

I read in your other thread that you are a climber? What sort of routes do you climb? Top rope? Bolts? Trad? Aid? Alpine? I love to climb, but keeping the skin on the finger tips in decent shape (e.g., not dry, cracked, blistered, and otherwise generally gross) can be a chore! :)

My favorite is Sport climbing, but I have to admit trad is much more exhilarating! The scariest thing ever is leading for the first time on a trad route. talk about intense!!Bouldering is okay on lazy days...but that's it.

As for the fingers...they could use a good manicure, but nobody really notices them. i try to keep them lotioned up at night and they don't crack, I just have really ugly cuticles and short nails! haha

Oh wait wait wait ..... you're ASKING for me to vote?

OMG like you need to ASK?!?!??!?!

DONE! Oh sooooooo very very clicked. :thumbsup:


Would'a been interesting if there was another contestant that frequents RBR asking for votes, too. Hmmmmm..... oh, sorry, thinking out loud again. :o

But I have a question. I have never understood the whole concept of beauty contests, pageants, and the like. (But then again, I have never understood magazines like FMH, Maxim, and even nudie mags like Playboy and beyond...). Why is it so important to be the most beautiful woman? I'm not busting your chops by asking this, it's an honest question...I honestly wonder what the satisfaction/reward is.

Ben are you saying that from the point of view of a woman you don't understand these magazines? I'm not trying to be a jerk either but when I was in university all the guys read these magazines. My roommates and I fought over them, traded them, kept them in every room in the house. I don't know if I've met a guy who doesn't appreciate Maxim...you just had to avoid "Caspers" - unclaimed kleenex discarded around the house...

This behaviour may be juvenile but passion for sexy women is something I'm not ready to give up on. My wife sure loves to be "made love" to, yet she never complains when I use a little extra youthful exuberance on her a$$.



Is it simply a means to make money? Do you do it because you can, because men are dumb enough to give in and write out the checks? Or do you do it for some other reason to satisfy something within you?

Is it really any different than anyone in the hospitality industry? How many college kids, male and female, put themselves through college with gratuities? Do you understand the inverse correlation between bartender's clothing quantity and bartender's tip quantity? As the clothing decreases, tips increase.


I ask because one of the most common complaints that I hear from women in general is how much they detest being treated/viewed as sexual objects by men, but it seems like this sort of thing just supports and perpetuates this sort of behavior.



I think women detest being exclusively sexual objects. If you can go rockclimbing with your S.O., chat about our doomed environment, ride bikes together, etc., its just a bonus that she's mega delicious like our Original Poster. I don't think there's a woman out there that doesn't like being able to tantalize her man. Candie is just supplementing my wife's effect on me at the moment; giving a little extra shot to the libido.
God Bless her.

My favorite is Sport climbing, but I have to admit trad is much more exhilarating! The scariest thing ever is leading for the first time on a trad route. talk about intense!!Bouldering is okay on lazy days...but that's it.

As for the fingers...they could use a good manicure, but nobody really notices them. i try to keep them lotioned up at night and they don't crack, I just have really ugly cuticles and short nails! haha

Yeah, being on the hot end of the rope when your new to trad is...scary!

I like bolted routes too, just because you can pick a hard one at the upper limit of your ability and keep working on it over and over until you finally redpoint...sort of like a big boulder problem, but with the added fun of rope management. Not that into on-sighting routes, I prefer becoming obsessed with a particular route, frustrated that I can't break past a certain move even after 20 attempts, and then finally, after much sweat and agony, nailing it. Such an addictive feeling. :cool:

Okay, enough day dreaming...back to work BenWA. :)

Ben are you saying that from the point of view of a woman you don't understand these magazines? I'm not trying to be a jerk either but when I was in university all the guys read these magazines. My roommates and I fought over them, traded them, kept them in every room in the house. I don't know if I've met a guy who doesn't appreciate Maxim...you just had to avoid "Caspers" - unclaimed kleenex discarded around the house...

I'm personally not into those mags at all. I'm not into going to sports bars where there are hot waitresses with tight tops and short skirts flaunting themselves, not into babe car washes, not into strip clubs, not into watching p0rn, not really into anything like that. It just does nothing for me. To me being teased by that which I don't have a chance at having access to is anticlimactic, shallow, and pointless. Call it odd, call it abnormal, it's just the way I am.

This is all before we even speak of the airbrushing and photo doctoring that goes on in those mags.

I AM into mutual attraction, flirting, interacting, and connecting with women--directly and in person--whom I have some chance of getting to know and share feelings, chemistry, and emotions with (on whatever level that might be). No potential for shared feelings, chemistry, or emotion is shallow and pointless to me, and I will happily move on to the next candidate who can satisfy these needs.

Oksana is pretty hot too, but Candice is the one posting on here and she actually seems like she has a head on her shoulders. I am glad I voted for her instead of Oksana. Like I said, beauty isn't everything. Candice has been nice enough to respond to some of you guys, so that gives her another plus.

When i first tried bouldering in San Diego, I loved it. I spoke so passionately about it a friend of my wife's wanted to try it. She'd never done it before, rented some shoes at sport chalet or such and off we went. Seeing her climb was an inspiration to me--she just went for it, she trusted her balance, she believed in her legs. Smooth and graceful. She also just trusted i would catch or break her fall I in contrast felt as if i needed to KNOW my hands could hold me--very hard to abandon that concept and trust my feet.
Seeing someone float up a rock face is better than watching a gymnast. they do things i can't attempt, at least with the climbers I can really appreciate the power, grace, and athleticism on display.

a well proportion figure is okay, but in terms of attraction it is mainly the face--you are lucky to have that, the figure is easily earned (okay maybe not easy, but anyone can get in shape if they want to).

BTW what is TRAD? I did top rope once--failing and then just having the guy below belay me kind of sucked--safe but I was frustrated in a way i never was bouldering. I'd rather struggle up a crack in a big boulder or slide down 15 feet--but maybe if i'd stuck with it I'd have gotten to the point where the rope was not ever used, just there in case...maybe when my kids are in school.

good luck
jim

BTW what is TRAD?

Trad is traditional free climbing, in which you place your own protection (cams, chocks, nuts, etc.) as you ascend the route to hold you should you fall.

Ok, Ok, I voted for you. Now please tell me why "She Talks to Angels" is your favorite song? It's about heroin addiction, no? I'm not saying it's a bad song, or glorifying anything, just curious why you'd single that out as your favorite.

In James Frey's, A Million Little Pieces, which got ripped by everyone after it was disclosed he fabricated some of the story, he writes some true stuff which redeemed the whole book. After Steven Tyler gives a speech at Hazelden, where he revels in his past drug usage Frey writes:

An Addict is an Addict. It doesn't matter whether the Addict is white, black, yellow or green, rich or poor or somewhere in the middle, the most famous Person on the Planet or the most unknown. It doesn't matter whether the addiction is drugs, alcohol, crime, sex, shopping, food, gambling, television, or the ****ing Flintstones. The life of the Addict is always the same. There is no excitement, no glamour, no fun. There are no good times, there is no joy, there is no happiness. There is no future and no escape. There is only an obsession. An all-encompassing, fully enveloping, completely overwhelming obsession.To make light of it, brag about it, or revel in the mock glory of it is not in any way, way shape or form related to its truth, and that is all that matters, the truth. That this man is standing in front of me and everyone else in this room lying to us is heresy. The truth is all that matters. This is ****ing heresy.

Wow, what a crazy thread on a bike forum. A discusion of breast's, real and fake, ;what fellas find sexy and my addiction comments. Hopefully you'll get your votes and this thread will die a quick death. LMAO

What are you talking about, this is one of the best threads that I have read in a while. Never thought anything this intellectual would be found in this forum (i.e., Podium Girls). Granted, this isn't as intellectual as some thesis paper, but this is probably as good as it will ever get in this forum.

Nascar? Not bike racing? I voted because of the boobs. Do you have a myspace?

What are you talking about, this is one of the best threads that I have read in a while. Never thought anything this intellectual would be found in this forum (i.e., Podium Girls). Granted, this isn't as intellectual as some thesis paper, but this is probably as good as it will ever get in this forum.

You're right! I'll be back later to throw some more fuel on the fire. I've reconsidered. lmao again...:p

What are you talking about, this is one of the best threads that I have read in a while. Never thought anything this intellectual would be found in this forum (i.e., Podium Girls). Granted, this isn't as intellectual as some thesis paper, but this is probably as good as it will ever get in this forum.
Word. We should get back to discussing the proper height of cycling socks, or some such thing.

If whatever you do is legal, and it makes you feel better, go ahead and do it I say.
What a horrible way to define morality.

By the way Candie, I didn't vote for you. I voted for Ms. Dowd at the New York Times instead.

thanks to BenWA for defining it.
my only top rope was following a guy who put it up--via TRAD. was cool to watch--i only made it 2/3 the way--and that with him giving me pretty good guidance from below on what to try.

btw is that Ben in WASHINGTON (i'm over in kitsap) or some play on benwa balls (and no, i don't know if i spelled that right)

if so, i hope you don't ride with them

jim

btw is that Ben in WASHINGTON (i'm over in kitsap) or some play on benwa balls (and no, i don't know if i spelled that right)


A bit of a double entendre, I suppose :)

Ok, Ok, I voted for you. Now please tell me why "She Talks to Angels" is your favorite song? It's about heroin addiction, no? I'm not saying it's a bad song, or glorifying anything, just curious why you'd single that out as your favorite.

AO

I LOVE the Black Crowes!! No, I'm not an adict, lol.

Nascar? Not bike racing? I voted because of the boobs. Do you have a myspace?

lol, at least you're honest! haha. Yeah, Nascar, I just learned about the whole world of Cycling at the Tour of California stage 6 and 7. So who knows, in a few years, my opinion might change.

Yeah, I have a myspace...I think I posted it earlier here is is anyway, i love myspace :)

myspace.com/candiekisses126

OK, I have to weigh in on this boob thing. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that instead of ladies boobs being viewed as a sexual turn-on, the cultural bias was toward a man with big balls-how many of us would run out and have "ball-enhancement" surgery done? Be honest. Most of us right?

No worries, I've got this question before. I like to put it this way: what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman. this was the BEST decision I've ever made. And my philosophy is, if I can touch them...they are "real". Most women wear padded bras anyway, so they are pretty much doing the same thing i am...only when I take my clothes off, my boobs are still there :)

Also, everyone alters their appearance in some way whether it be by a tatoo, piercing, hair cut, etc. So I see absolutely no problem with it.
That's the whole problem with it. Have we as a culture objectified women to the point that there is one "attribute that makes you stand out" as a women? We're working on objectifying men and all humans in the same way. It's tragic. Do you remember the guy on MTV Real Life who got calf implants? It's the same thing, only fake boobs are more appealing and common.

It seems related to the superficial way you and others would similarly define "real." It's clever semantics, but that's not a compliment. Is a guy with fake pecs or thighs real because they so appear? Was Heras's performance in the Vuelta from a few years ago equally real? I don't think so.

Nor do I think that cometic surgery is the same as the other forms of body alteration you list. It's a line-drawing exercise, I suppose, but I draw the line at placing foreign objects into one's body.

Not that it matters, anyway, it's your body.

OK, I have to weigh in on this boob thing. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that instead of ladies boobs being viewed as a sexual turn-on, the cultural bias was toward a man with big balls-how many of us would run out and have "ball-enhancement" surgery done? Be honest. Most of us right?
uh, no.

Candice you got my vote. Bill on the other hand, Wow do you always try and bring down a party?

I second Bill's response. There are surgeries out there for penile enlargement andlast I checked, size did matter in that department. However, I am not rushing out there to have it performed. Ball enlargement, definitely not.

Nascar? Not bike racing....

You got my vote-


And in my opinion about breasts, the smaller the sexier.

What a horrible way to define morality.

By the way Candie, I didn't vote for you. I voted for Ms. Dowd at the New York Times instead.

She's brilliant, sexy, and I like her politics, but she is a little nuts. Wasn't she dating Tierney? and he's pathetic and his columns are lame ass s..t.

On a 5k, 6% avg. gradient climb, how much time would the extra weight, oh forget it.

Cowboy (definetely) up!!!:blush2:

You get my vote. I need even more alone time now....

On a 5k, 6% avg. gradient climb, how much time would the extra weight, oh forget it.

i prefer small ones so i can go jog with no issues--but would fake ones stay in place the way the bolt on cannonballs women get do?

jim

i prefer small ones so i can go jog with no issues--but would fake ones stay in place the way the bolt on cannonballs women get do?

jim

Hey, nice bike collection. If I had saved half of the money I blew on the errrrrrr, "podium" girls, perhaps I might have an IF, a nice 585, a Colnago maybe, and a Time in my collection. I did prefer the one's (pg's) lacking in modern technology, so yes, a nice custom steel would do....I gotta laugh...otherwise I might cry:cryin: ....lmao...

:thumbsup: Nice myspace. Tell me your not married? Your way to young and stunning. If you don't win the Maxim thing, somethings wrong. I hope you don't mind, but I added you to my friend list on myspace. By the way, you shouldn't even be in Maxim, you need to be in Playboy.:blush2:

dont worry canykisses.....i LOVE fake boobs

Hey, nice bike collection. If I had saved half of the money I blew on the errrrrrr, "podium" girls, perhaps I might have an IF, a nice 585, a Colnago maybe, and a Time in my collection. I did prefer the one's (pg's) lacking in modern technology, so yes, a nice custom steel would do....I gotta laugh...otherwise I might cry:cryin: ....lmao...
time to put the $$ into the equity loan and the kids 529 fund.

i am keeping the moser, steel is real after all, like my pecs and calves. still could upgrade myself i guess--do they come in carbon?

regarding the palyboy comment (not yours): if i was a girl, i'd definitely choose maxim over playboy--can't imagine what good doors playboy opens vs the maxim exposure, and certainly down the road someone may hold it against you for a naked pictoral (politics, etc)

jim

Yep, Maxim is way classier than Playboy when it comes to that stuff, but Pamela Andersen hasn't done bad for herself even though I think she is trash. Maxim isn't the greatest thing in the world either. If I had to pick the cover of a magazine to be on, I think it would have to be Time or Money, or something of that nature, but I'm not here winning any beauty contests either.

Face it guys, if you cycle, you are a nerd. She is out of our league. No chance. If you wait a few years then she has a .001 chance of coming around.

The stages of women

Stage one (teens to early 20s)--Bad boys (annoying parents, etc)

Stage two (20s to thirties)--The perfect man

Stage three --giving up on men altogether

Stage four --the nerd flip. Suddenly you have a slight chance after only 35 years!

My wife realized the joys of nerds after we started dating, then hooked up all her hot friends with nerds. They are all happily married now and it is paradise for both of them. The nerds feel as if they have died and gone to heaven, the women too because they finally have someone who will treat them well.

That was pretty hilarious.

The nerds are not attractive to the younger women because they do not have money when they are the same age. However, later in life, myself included, we tend to have more money than the bad boy types. For instance, my brother is a bad boy, and while I was in college and law school he was working as an automotive painter making $100K a year. Meanwhile, I was poor as can be. Now, things are much different. We make about the same amount of money, but I do things differently with mine. He invests in Budweiser and Jack Daniels, and I invest in stocks, mutual funds, CD's, rental property, and Colnagos.

Nerds become more attractive later on in life once we are established. By the way, all 4 of my siblings used to call me a nerd, and sometimes they still do. I was over my parents' house the other night and my mom showed me a drawing that my little sister had done of me 18 years ago. I had been out riding and it started to rain pretty hard. They were worried about me before they were going to leave for shopping, but they decided to leave anyway after waiting a little while. While waiting, my sister had drawn a picture of me on a bicycle that said, "I'm a nerd. I love to ride my bicycle in the rain." I probably didn't laugh much at it 18 years ago when I saw it pinned to the kitchen door curtains, but I got a good laugh out of it the other day. I used to have braces back then too. Funny thing is that all the women that weren't interested in me in high school became extremely interested in me after college. Sad thing is that they weren't nearly as good looking after college as they were in high school.

time to put the $$ into the equity loan and the kids 529 fund.

i am keeping the moser, steel is real after all, like my pecs and calves. still could upgrade myself i guess--do they come in carbon?

regarding the palyboy comment (not yours): if i was a girl, i'd definitely choose maxim over playboy--can't imagine what good doors playboy opens vs the maxim exposure, and certainly down the road someone may hold it against you for a naked pictoral (politics, etc)

jim

What size are they generally?

Sad thing is that they weren't nearly as good looking after college as they were in high school.

Isn't that the truth. Sometimes I Iook through my old highschool year books and it's funny to look at the "hot" girls and think, meh.

But then look at some the "homely" girls and think "Wow she's hot, why didn't I date her?". Funny how that works.:mad2:

You got my vote. Thanks for the previous post as well. It's interesting to have a woman on the forum actually talking. LOL
Nice myspace by the way.

Cheers

No vote
I just can not grasp, having your sense of self worth tied so deeply to your looks, that you need to go under the knife. Incomprehensible to me.

No vote
I just can not grasp, having your sense of self worth tied so deeply to your looks, that you need to go under the knife. Incomprehensible to me.

keep in mind that there are people that spend 10+ hours a week in the gym because looks are important to them. That would be 520 hours a year of their life dedicated to the pursuit of a perfect body..... is that incomprehensible as well?

going "under the knife" for plastic surgery for most people means a procedure lasting only a couple hours with a lifetime of benefit. It can be taken to extremes, but the OP is a beautiful girl with a little enhancement.

I macerated my upper lip late last year in a bike spill and all I wanted was someone to fix it. Here is the post... not for the squeamish: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showpost.php?p=852745&postcount=7
It took about 4 hours for the plastic surgeon on call to come in and sew me up, but it was certainly worth the wait. if you don't care what your appearence is like then that is your decision, but I would venture that a majority of people would prefer to fix something about them, no matter how slight, if possible.

Nope, I'm PERFECT, Just like your name "Implies"......
... talk to ya later, "Handsome".
as in "hand some" of your bulls--- to someone else cuz it don't work here.

I love you guys! Thanks for the support!:thumbsup:

We like you too. Seriously. Will you...uh. Post a pic of you with a bike?

I second Bill's response. There are surgeries out there for penile enlargement andlast I checked, size did matter in that department. However, I am not rushing out there to have it performed. Ball enlargement, definitely not.
Size DOES matter, to some extent. That's all I'm saying about that.

Size DOES matter, to some extent. That's all I'm saying about that.

please kill this thread. :rolleyes:

Nor do I think that cometic surgery is the same as the other forms of body alteration you list. It's a line-drawing exercise, I suppose, but I draw the line at placing foreign objects into one's body.

Women are more used to "foreign objects " in their bodies. I agree natural is best but I voted for Candy and wish her success.

No worries, I've got this question before. I like to put it this way: what if you were born without the attribute that makes you stand out as a man? If you went throughout life, not feeling adequate and had the chance to change that would you? I felt like a little boy before I bought boobs, now I truly feel like a woman. this was the BEST decision I've ever made. And my philosophy is, if I can touch them...they are "real". Most women wear padded bras anyway, so they are pretty much doing the same thing i am...only when I take my clothes off, my boobs are still there :)

Also, everyone alters their appearance in some way whether it be by a tatoo, piercing, hair cut, etc. So I see absolutely no problem with it.

If by "attribute that makes you stand out as a man" you mean muscles or even ummmm more private parts, I doubt that many guys on this forum would ever consider fake muscle implants or surgery to any more private areas.

Best decision ever? Even better than going to school or getting engaged? Wow they are important to you.
I'm glad you are happy with your decison. Best of luck with the contest.

Nope, I'm PERFECT, Just like your name "Implies"......
... talk to ya later, "Handsome".
as in "hand some" of your bulls--- to someone else cuz it don't work here.

I am glad to hear that you are "PERFECT", Roger.

How's that working out for you?... being PERFECT

Also, just to confirm... is any opposing opinion to yours BS, or is it just mine?

Nope, Just yours...
Talk to ya later robbie,
Roger